Trump delivers great speech in far left leaning NY burrow

[GMDino]

(05-24-2024, 03:01 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: There it is.

The rallying cry of whataboutism.

Cute, but a fail.

I didn't say Trump AND Biden did drugs...just that every time someone on the right accuses someone on the left of something they are doing it themselves.

[HarleyDog]

(05-24-2024, 08:56 AM)pally Wrote: sooner or late MAGA might realize he is making the same promises and complaints as he did in 2015.  If he was such a great President why didn't he permanently fix these problems?

For one, Dems refused to work with him, and it was a democratic majority in the house that was focused only on impeaching him before he even swore into office.

(05-24-2024, 09:10 AM)GMDino Wrote: He'll announce all the solutions.

In two weeks.  

All seriousness aside you give MAGA too much credit.  They are all in on Trump no matter what he says, does or lies about.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/trump-brazenly-asks-bronx-crowd-112919787.html



So a rambling speech full of self-bravado and lies?  Yeah.  of course MAGA loved it.

Dino, your material is getting old. You keep saying the same things over and over and over. Everything to you is Maga. Anyone who supports Trump in any way is MAGA.  If your trying to be funny, please work on some new material. 

I heard bit's and pieces of Trumps speech from last night. His speech was bringing people together. He was speaking to all races last night and people loved it. I will listen to the whole speech when I have time, but right now I'm getting ready for the Memorial Day weekend. God bless our fallen.

[GMDino]

(05-24-2024, 07:20 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: For one, Dems refused to work with him, and it was a democratic majority in the house that was focused only on impeaching him before he even swore into office.


Dino, your material is getting old. You keep saying the same things over and over and over. Everything to you is Maga. Anyone who supports Trump in any way is MAGA.  If your trying to be funny, please work on some new material. 

I heard bit's and pieces of Trumps speech from last night. His speech was bringing people together. He was speaking to all races last night and people loved it. I will listen to the whole speech when I have time, but right now I'm getting ready for the Memorial Day weekend. God bless our fallen.

That's funny.  If you say someone supports Trump around here they jump up and claim they don't.  And if the do they aren't MAGA.

So where the hell are all the MAGA people coming from?  LOL!

All seriousness aside the 30% that vote Trump no matter what fit everything I said.

If you don't then I wasn't talking about you. 

[*pally*]

(05-24-2024, 07:20 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: For one, Dems refused to work with him, and it was a democratic majority in the house that was focused only on impeaching him before he even swore into office.


Dino, your material is getting old. You keep saying the same things over and over and over. Everything to you is Maga. Anyone who supports Trump in any way is MAGA.  If your trying to be funny, please work on some new material. 

I heard bit's and pieces of Trumps speech from last night. His speech was bringing people together. He was speaking to all races last night and people loved it. I will listen to the whole speech when I have time, but right now I'm getting ready for the Memorial Day weekend. God bless our fallen.

He did not even try!!

It is 2024 and he is promising yet again a bigger, better, less expensive healthcare plan....where is it?  Surely this has been written.  

He complained about the NYC subway system, where is his infrastructure plan?

And his only immigration plan is to round up and deport.  Great...how is he planning to achieve that?

Somehow his infamous "couple of weeks"  never seems to arrive.

Currently, the clock is ticking on his plan for contraceptives

And as for bringing people together...I guess you missed the part about getting rid of the Marxists, communists, socialists etc...or in his vernacular...anyone who is 100% loyal to him.  He doesn't give a damn about anyone who isn't

[HarleyDog]

(05-24-2024, 07:31 PM)GMDino Wrote: That's funny.  If you say someone supports Trump around here they jump up and claim they don't.  And if the do they aren't MAGA.

So where the hell are all the MAGA people coming from?  LOL!

Some support Trump on here. It doesn't mean they're extremist.

As for your second question, of course, there are MAGA people. But, they are few, and I don't see any on here (as you would define). Many here are tired of the BS the last 3yrs have brought. I understand you try to hold onto it, and that's ok. Why the labels? In the last few days, there have been some productive discussions here without piercing between L/R/I. It would be great if we could keep it that way. 

[HarleyDog]

(05-24-2024, 07:46 PM)pally Wrote: He did not even try!!

It is 2024 and he is promising yet again a bigger, better, less expensive healthcare plan....where is it?  Surely this has been written.  

He complained about the NYC subway system, where is his infrastructure plan?

And his only immigration plan is to round up and deport.  Great...how is he planning to achieve that?

Somehow his infamous "couple of weeks"  never seems to arrive.

Currently, the clock is ticking on his plan for contraceptives

And as for bringing people together...I guess you missed the part about getting rid of the Marxists, communists, socialists etc...or in his vernacular...anyone who is 100% loyal to him.  He doesn't give a damn about anyone who isn't

Not sure what to do with all this. I'm not going to defend him. His last term was nothing but Dems coming after him. Work with him and see what he can do. 

[FormerlyBengalRugby]

(05-24-2024, 07:12 PM)GMDino Wrote: Cute, but a fail.

I didn't say Trump AND Biden did drugs...just that every time someone on the right accuses someone on the left of something they are doing it themselves.

Fail in your whataboutixm,

Had nothing to do with drugs in your whataboutism.

[GMDino]

(05-24-2024, 08:25 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Fail in your whataboutixm,

Had nothing to do with drugs in your whataboutism.

[*pally*]

(05-24-2024, 08:25 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Not sure what to do with all this. I'm not going to defend him. His last term was nothing but Dems coming after him. Work with him and see what he can do. 

Somehow despite being under constant investigation and an impeachment, Bill Clinton managed to govern.  He spent his time working.  Trump spent his whining and tweeting.

[HarleyDog]

(05-24-2024, 10:31 PM)pally Wrote: Somehow despite being under constant investigation and an impeachment, Bill Clinton managed to govern.  He spent his time working.  Trump spent his whining and tweeting.

I don't even know how to respond to your tantrums sometimes. 

Clinton:

A. Had affair.
B. Left stain on curtain.
C. Got Caught.
D. Lied and said he didn't do it.
E. Realised he was caught and admitted it.
F Went through impeachment process.
G. Didn't Twitter because it didn't exist.

If he whined? We can't tell because he wouldn't have done it through the social media back then which was newspapers and tv. Wait.... He was denying for sometime and saying it was false. I believe his exact words were, "I did not sleep with that woman." Sounds like whining to me.

[*pally*]

(05-24-2024, 11:18 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I don't even know how to respond to your tantrums sometimes. 

Clinton:

A. Had affair.
B. Left stain on curtain.
C. Got Caught.
D. Lied and said he didn't do it.
E. Realised he was caught and admitted it.
F Went through impeachment process.
G. Didn't Twitter because it didn't exist.

If he whined? We can't tell because he wouldn't have done it through the social media back then which was newspapers and tv. Wait.... He was denying for sometime and saying it was false. I believe his exact words were, "I did not sleep with that woman." Sounds like whining to me.

I’m not defending Clinton’s behavior. But he didn’t talk about the subject incessantly screaming about how unfair it all was like Trump has. Trump gave up trying to get his agenda through Congress because it was hard. He couldn’t bully Nancy Pelosi.

Executive Orders are band aids not long term solutions.

He had 4 years as President and has had 4 more years to plan. So exactly what are his LEGISLATIVE plans if re-elected? He talks a lot, makes promises that somehow he will solve long term complex issues within 2 weeks. But, he has no plans.

[GMDino]

(05-24-2024, 10:31 PM)pally Wrote: Somehow despite being under constant investigation and an impeachment, Bill Clinton managed to govern.  He spent his time working.  Trump spent his whining and tweeting.

(05-24-2024, 11:18 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I don't even know how to respond to your tantrums sometimes. 

Clinton:

A. Had affair.
B. Left stain on curtain.
C. Got Caught.
D. Lied and said he didn't do it.
E. Realised he was caught and admitted it.
F Went through impeachment process.
G. Didn't Twitter because it didn't exist.

If he whined? We can't tell because he wouldn't have done it through the social media back then which was newspapers and tv. Wait.... He was denying for sometime and saying it was false. I believe his exact words were, "I did not sleep with that woman." Sounds like whining to me.

HD, you're not getting it.

Clinton did all those things and with a gop controlled congress still governed.

Do I like all the things that happened legislatively under Clinton? No.

Do the entire government screech to a halt because he was a D and the gop controlled the legislature?  Also no.

What Trump did is what he has always done:  Made grandiose promises, told other people to do the work and when nothing got done complained that it wasn't his fault.

Trump STILL says everything will be released in "a couple weeks" and nothing has been released.  What makes you think that four years later he suddenly will work harder or tell the truth?

I guarantee that win or lose Trump will spend more time holding rallies and golfing than he will working.  I'd bet your salary on it.

Maybe it's just so simple for me that I can't understand how others don't see it:  You look at what a person tells you they will do and then look at what they did. 

[GMDino]

(05-24-2024, 08:20 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Some support Trump on here. It doesn't mean they're extremist.

As for your second question, of course, there are MAGA people. But, they are few, and I don't see any on here (as you would define). Many here are tired of the BS the last 3yrs have brought. I understand you try to hold onto it, and that's ok. Why the labels? In the last few days, there have been some productive discussions here without piercing between L/R/I. It would be great if we could keep it that way. 

Essentially you want me to not talk about MAGA and republicans who support Trump unless I don't call them MAGA?

They wear the phrase on every piece of clothing they can.

In fact the original post you responded too was specifically about MAGA types and how they eat up everything Trump says...never mentioned anyone on this board. And THAT was in response to a post asking when will people stop believing what he says. MAGA never will.

Either way if you don't see MAGA on here then that's you...not me as I didn't accuse anyone on here of being MAGA or extremists.

And if you want "productive discussions" don't post about the poster and respond to the post instead. All you did was create a back and forth where I had to explain, again, if YOU don't fall into what I'm talking about then I'm not talking about you. I'd suggest not taking everything personally.

[GMDino]

(05-24-2024, 10:07 AM)GMDino Wrote: Every accusation by the right is an admission.

https://x.com/greggrunberg/status/1303052051547435008