8 years of suffering under Barack Obama

[GMDino]

https://tericarter.wordpress.com/2017/07/10/8-years-of-suffering-under-obama/

Quote:The sentence I hear most from well-meaning, conservative friends since President Trump’s election is this: “We suffered 8 years under Barack Obama.”

Fair enough. Let’s take a look.

The day Obama took office, the Dow closed at 7,949 points. Eight years later, the Dow had almost tripled.

General Motors and Chrysler were on the brink of bankruptcy, with Ford not far behind, and their failure, along with their supply chains, would have meant the loss of millions of jobs. Obama pushed through a controversial, $8o billion bailout to save the car industry. The U.S. car industry survived, started making money again, and the entire $80 billion was paid back, with interest.

While we remain vulnerable to lone-wolf attacks, no foreign terrorist organization has successfully executed a mass attack here since 9/11.

Obama ordered the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden.

He drew down the number of troops from 180,000 in Iraq and Afghanistan to just 15,000, and increased funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

He launched a program called Opening Doors which, since 2010, has led to a 47 percent decline in the number of homeless veterans.

He set a record 73 straight months of private-sector job growth.

Due to Obama’s regulatory policies, greenhouse gas emissions decreased by 12%, production of renewable energy more than doubled, and our dependence on foreign oil was cut in half.

He signed The Lilly Ledbetter Act, making it easier for women to sue employers for unequal pay.

His Omnibus Public Lands Management Act designated more than 2 million acres as wilderness, creating thousands of miles of trails and protecting over 1,000 miles of rivers.

He reduced the federal deficit from 9.8 percent of GDP in 2009 to 3.2 percent in 2016.

For all the inadequacies of the Affordable Care Act, we seem to have forgotten that, before the ACA, you could be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition and kids could not stay on their parents’ policies up to age 26.

Obama approved a $14.5 billion system to rebuild the levees in New Orleans.

All this, even as our own Mitch McConnell famously asserted that his singular mission would be to block anything President Obama tried to do.

While Obama failed on his campaign pledge to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, that prison’s population decreased from 242 to around 50.

He expanded funding for embryonic stem cell research, supporting groundbreaking advancement in areas like spinal injury treatment and cancer.
Credit card companies can no longer charge hidden fees or raise interest rates without advance notice.

Most years, Obama threw a 4th of July party for military families. He held babies, played games with children, served barbecue, and led the singing of “Happy Birthday” to his daughter Malia, who was born on July 4.
Welfare spending is down: for every 100 poor families, just 24 receive cash assistance, compared with 64 in 1996.

Obama comforted families and communities following more than a dozen mass shootings. After Sandy Hook, he said, “The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old.”

Yet, he never took away anyone’s guns.

He sang Amazing Grace, spontaneously, at the altar.

He was the first president since Eisenhower to serve two terms without personal or political scandal.

He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

President Obama was not perfect, as no man and no president is, and you can certainly disagree with his political ideologies. But to say we suffered? If that’s the argument, if this is how we suffered for 8 years under Barack Obama, I have one wish: may we be so fortunate as to suffer 8 more.

Let the fact checking begin....

[GMDino]

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/#.Wd4tx6jEa3U.facebook
Obama’s Final Numbers
Statistical indicators of President Obama's eight years in office.

• By Brooks Jackson
• Posted on September 29, 2017
  

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Summary
The numbers are nearly all in now. What they show about what really happened during the eight years that Barack Obama was president is sometimes different from what politicians claimed.

• The economy gained a net 11.5 million jobs. The unemployment rate dropped to below the historical norm.
• Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 4.1 percent after inflation. The gain was 3.7 percent for just production and nonsupervisory employees.
• After-tax corporate profits also set records, as did stock prices. The S&P 500 index rose 166 percent.
• The number of people lacking health insurance dropped by 15 million. Premiums rose, but more slowly than before.
• The federal debt owed to the public rose 128 percent. Deficits were rising as Obama departed.
• Home prices rose 20 percent. But the home ownership rate hit the lowest point in half a century.
• Illegal immigration declined: The Border Patrol caught 35 percent fewer people trying to get into the U.S. from Mexico.
• Wind and solar power increased 369 percent. Coal production declined 38 percent. Carbon emissions from burning fossil fuel dropped 11 percent.
• Production of handguns rose 192 percent, to a record level.
• The murder rate dropped to the lowest on record in 2014, then rose and finished at about the same rate as when Obama took office.
  
  

Analysis
Gathering statistics is a painstaking and time-consuming job. Figures on crime, household incomes and poverty in 2016 weren’t released until September 2017, for example.
But now we have a reasonably complete statistical picture of the Obama years, which began in the middle of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, and ended with the highest level of household income ever recorded.
These facts often turn out to be at odds with the impressions created by candidates who, for example, claimed wages and incomes were stagnant when in fact they were rising. The facts also can conflict with impressions created by news media reporting dramatic but untypical events. Despite nonstop coverage of several mass shootings, for example, the murder rate was going down for most of the Obama years, hitting the lowest ever recorded in 2014.
Some of these figures remain subject to tweaks and revisions. Figures on handgun production in 2016 are still “preliminary,” for example, and others will remain subject to slight revisions for years to come, as statisticians routinely refine their methods and assumptions. We will keep this update current as necessary in the months and years to come. For now, it’s as “final” as possible.

[BengalHawk62]

"He was the first president since Eisenhower to serve two terms without personal or political scandal."






Did Reagan have a scandal? 

[GMDino]

(10-11-2017, 03:12 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: "He was the first president since Eisenhower to serve two terms without personal or political scandal."






Did Reagan have a scandal? 

Just a few.  

[BengalHawk62]

(10-11-2017, 03:50 PM)GMDino Wrote: Just a few.  

Ya ya ya....ok. I was just drawing a blank.

[GMDino]

(10-11-2017, 03:52 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: Ya ya ya....ok.  I was just drawing a blank.

It was nearly 30 years since he left office.  He was the last president before I could legally vote.  

[BmorePat87]

(10-11-2017, 03:12 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: "He was the first president since Eisenhower to serve two terms without personal or political scandal."






Did Reagan have a scandal? 

Iran Contra is the first thing that comes to mind

[StLucieBengal]

Isn't this the same obama admin who was running guns to the Mexican drug cartels.

Using the IRS to target political enemies.

Allowed US citizens to die in Benghazi because they couldn't decide what clothing for the rescue team to wear.

Blamed a private citizen for the Benghazi attack and had him perp walked over a YouTube video.

Wiretapped Trump tower and Trump campaign personal. Also unmasked names of any trump people involved in these surveillance to force Trunp to have to resign.

Yup no scandals here lol

[GMDino]

(10-11-2017, 05:43 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Isn't this the same obama admin who was running guns to the Mexican drug cartels.  

Using the IRS to target political enemies.  

Allowed US citizens to die in Benghazi because they couldn't decide what clothing for the rescue team to wear.  

Blamed a private citizen for the Benghazi attack and had him perp walked over a YouTube video.  

Wiretapped Trump tower and Trump campaign personal.   Also unmasked names of any trump people involved in these surveillance to force Trunp to have to resign.  

Yup no scandals here lol

You get the first one.

Other than that...nope.

Nonetheless miles away better than Reagan.

[Dill]

(10-11-2017, 05:43 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Isn't this the same obama admin who was running guns to the Mexican drug cartels.  

Using the IRS to target political enemies.  

Allowed US citizens to die in Benghazi because they couldn't decide what clothing for the rescue team to wear.  

Blamed a private citizen for the Benghazi attack and had him perp walked over a YouTube video.  

Wiretapped Trump tower and Trump campaign personal.   Also unmasked names of any trump people involved in these surveillance to force Trunp to have to resign.  

Yup no scandals here lol

Those are Fox-news scandals, Lucy.  They dissipate quickly outside Hannity-land.

Even the fast and furious scandal, which Dino is ready to concede, was conocted pretty far from the White House.

[Dill]

(10-11-2017, 03:12 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: "He was the first president since Eisenhower to serve two terms without personal or political scandal."






Did Reagan have a scandal? 

And then three months later he pulled them out of Lebanon.

[StLucieBengal]

(10-11-2017, 09:20 PM)GMDino Wrote: You get the first one.

Other than that...nope.

Nonetheless miles away better than Reagan.

No I get all of those.

/thread

[GMDino]

(10-11-2017, 11:32 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: No I get all of those.

/thread

Yeeeahhh....even if you  were right (you're not) that doesn't say anything about everything else.

But if you meant you were done with the thread than you have my heartfelt thanks. 

[StLucieBengal]

(10-11-2017, 11:46 PM)GMDino Wrote: Yeeeahhh....even if you  were right (you're not) that doesn't say anything about everything else.

But if you meant you were done with the thread than you have my heartfelt thanks. 

Which one of those do you think did not happen?

[GMDino]

(10-12-2017, 12:43 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Which one of those do you think did not happen?

Quote:Using the IRS to target political enemies.  


Allowed US citizens to die in Benghazi because they couldn't decide what clothing for the rescue team to wear.  

Blamed a private citizen for the Benghazi attack and had him perp walked over a YouTube video.  

Wiretapped Trump tower and Trump campaign personal.   Also unmasked names of any trump people involved in these surveillance to force Trunp to have to resign.  

The only reason I'll give a little on the gun operation is the caveat of it happened under his administration.

The rest are fever dreams from a Trump supporter.

[Belsnickel]

(10-11-2017, 05:43 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Isn't this the same obama admin who was running guns to the Mexican drug cartels.

Which Obama himself never authorized; scandal never reached Obama.

(10-11-2017, 05:43 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Using the IRS to target political enemies.

Which Obama himself never authorized; scandal never reached Obama.

(10-11-2017, 05:43 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Allowed US citizens to die in Benghazi because they couldn't decide what clothing for the rescue team to wear.

News used to detract from Congress not adequately funding embassy security for years. The Benghazi "scandal" never reached Obama, only hit Clinton.

(10-11-2017, 05:43 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Blamed a private citizen for the Benghazi attack and had him perp walked over a YouTube video.

I have no idea what this is.

(10-11-2017, 05:43 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Wiretapped Trump tower and Trump campaign personal. Also unmasked names of any trump people involved in these surveillance to force Trunp to have to resign.

Fake news designed to generate confirmation bias in those that don't actually understand how government works.

(10-11-2017, 05:43 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Yup no scandals here lol

No personal or political scandal in that list that actually hit Obama. They hit cabinet level, but not directly him. But, if we want to lump in the scandals of those who report to the POTUS, well, the list for the Trump White House dwarfs this one, and that list is from 8 years in office, Trumps is for less than a year.

I think you might need to reevaluate your argument.