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Trump prosecutions hitting hiccups
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The Trump trial in D.C. has been taken off the schedule pending the ruling if a President is immune from prosecution for acts he committed while still in office. Trump was in office on Jan. 6th and thus the appeal pending from the Supreme Court.

The Fulton County trial also seems to have a hit a snag as Willis was having an affair with the attorney with no experience in RICO cases. These 2 also visited the white house, the question is why would a Georgia prosecutor and her lead attorney have any business with anyone at the white house. This is not a federal case. Also, Willis has been subpoenaed by Jordan's committee for all records of both her use of federal funds, all meetings with anyone from the DOJ or the White House and more. Jordan asked 3 times for all of the information as was ignored thus the subpoena issues today.
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What relevance does an affair by the prosecutor have on the prosecution of Trump and associate's crime? She wasn't sleeping with any of the defendants, their attornies, or any of the witnesses.

Trump's bogus immunity claim will soon be put to rest and the prosecution will continue.
 

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(02-02-2024, 09:22 PM)pally Wrote: What relevance does an affair by the prosecutor have on the prosecution of Trump and associate's crime? She wasn't sleeping with any of the defendants, their attornies, or any of the witnesses.

Trump's bogus immunity claim will soon be put to rest and the prosecution will continue.

So, the situation in Fulton County is a bigger issue than some realize. Is what she did illegal or a conflict-of-interest that has any bearing on the case? No. Is it a very bad look that could result in disciplinary actions? Yep. The biggest thing that is does is give ammunition to the defense. The second thing is that it gives fuel to the efforts in the state legislature of Georgia to remove her. If she is removed, that will be the death of the prosecution as there is not likely to be another DA in Georgia that will pick the prosecution up and move it forward. The charges will be dropped.

As for the immunity claim, yes, that is bogus and will be shot down. It stands no chance, even in the very pro-Trump SCOTUS.
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(02-02-2024, 10:12 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So, the situation in Fulton County is a bigger issue than some realize. Is what she did illegal or a conflict-of-interest that has any bearing on the case? No. Is it a very bad look that could result in disciplinary actions? Yep. The biggest thing that is does is give ammunition to the defense. The second thing is that it gives fuel to the efforts in the state legislature of Georgia to remove her. If she is removed, that will be the death of the prosecution as there is not likely to be another DA in Georgia that will pick the prosecution up and move it forward. The charges will be dropped.

As for the immunity claim, yes, that is bogus and will be shot down. It stands no chance, even in the very pro-Trump SCOTUS.

People outside the court system don't seem to realize just how bad this is for Willis.  If you are revealed to be corrupt, which she, by her own admission in that sickening church sermon is, then it taints everything you touch(ed).  If you're corrupt in one aspect of your profession what other things are you doing that are not known?  This kind of thing is a complete career killer for an attorney, especially a prosecutor, who is held to even higher standards.  The GA Trump case is dead and Willis has no one but herself to blame for that.

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It absolutely looks horrible. Only saving grace snippet I think I saw was that the job her boyfriend got was offered to others first who turned it down. Which is how he ended up with the job.
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(02-02-2024, 09:22 PM)pally Wrote: What relevance does an affair by the prosecutor have on the prosecution of Trump and associate's crime?  She wasn't sleeping with any of the defendants, their attornies, or any of the witnesses.

Trump's bogus immunity claim will soon be put to rest and the prosecution will continue.

I don't think you understand the importance of Presidential immunity. Obama committed war crimes and if the Supreme Court ignores immunity and sides with Democrats, you former President could be charged with war crimes.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/the-biggest-obama-scandals-are-proven-and-ignored/275960/

A lot of decisions a US President made or makes in the future would be under intense scrutiny so be careful what you wish for, Democrats will not stay in power forever.

As far as the affair, google it she can be disbarred, she could be fired. Also it appears the state senators are looking at having her prosecuted. At the very least, great chance she is removed either voluntarily or forcefully, her lover fired and then a new set of eyes making a decision to move forward with all of the cases. It would start the investigation over and thus we would be looking at 2025 until the case is scheduled against a possible sitting POTUS.
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(02-02-2024, 10:19 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: It absolutely looks horrible. Only saving grace snippet I think I saw was that the job her boyfriend got was offered to others first who turned it down. Which is how he ended up with the job.

Her boyfriend Wade has already been paid $650,000, this includes billing for 24 hours of work in one day. They also have a lot of explaining to do as another part of the billing was for Wade with Willis at the White House. If you are a resident of Fulton county, huge question of why a County DA and her lead prosector would be expensing trips to the white house. 

I am not sure how this ends up, but my guess is her life and Wade's life are about to be turned upside down. Wade has never had any experience with a RICO trial and Fannie paid him $100 more per hour than she had been paying other attorneys, sounds like Hunter Biden, no expertise in the field, yet paid big bucks. Why?
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Hey, Fani Willis is in a world of hurt but it has no bearing on the case against Trump. The prosecution will be taken over by an Assistant DA if she can’t continue.

There is a difference between blanket immunity which Trump is claiming and immunity for Presidential actions. Immunity for instance protects him from prosecution from bombing Syria and Iraq in an act of military retaliation. It won’t protect him if he shoots someone on 5th Avenue or in this case tries to steal an election by presenting fake electors.

We cannot be a country of laws and a constitution if the very person who is sworn to preserve and protect that constitution is exempt from the consequences of not doing so.
 

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(02-03-2024, 01:42 AM)pally Wrote: Hey, Fani Willis is in a world of hurt but it has no bearing on the case against Trump. The prosecution will be taken over by an Assistant DA if she can’t continue.

There is a difference between blanket immunity which Trump is claiming and immunity for Presidential actions. Immunity for instance protects him from prosecution from bombing Syria and Iraq in an act of military retaliation. It won’t protect him if he shoots someone on 5th Avenue or in this case tries to steal an election by presenting fake electors.

We cannot be a country of laws and a constitution if the very person who is sworn to preserve and protect that constitution is exempt from the consequences of not doing so.

I don’t want to underestimate the cult. Luckily this is in Georgia where the Republican governor has already had a little run in with Trump. If this was in a state like Arkansas or Oklahoma I would expect a full court press from the party to help cover up the crime. We may still see it in Georgia.
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Haley has a much better chance of beating Biden in 2024 than Trump. I assume the conspiracy murmurs are that Biden is telling his network of crooked DAs and justice departments to ease up to make sure Trump isn't taken out of the mix. Trump hiring a private investigation firm to look into Alina Saad Habba and her Iraqi-born parents is a good start.
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(02-03-2024, 01:42 AM)pally Wrote: Hey, Fani Willis is in a world of hurt but it has no bearing on the case against Trump.  The prosecution will be taken over by an Assistant DA if she can’t continue.

There is a difference between blanket immunity which Trump is claiming and immunity for Presidential actions. Immunity for instance protects him from prosecution from bombing Syria and Iraq in an act of military retaliation. It won’t protect him if he shoots someone on 5th Avenue or in this case tries to steal an election by presenting fake electors.

We cannot be a country of laws and a constitution if the very person who is sworn to preserve and protect that constitution is exempt from the consequences of not doing so.

Presidential immunity has a very wide scope by design. Trump has not been charged with insurrection or has killed anyone on 5th avenue. In time, we will see but the justices decision could impact not only President Trump's actions, but any current or former President action's. We will see how they rule, either way, to your dismay there likely will no not be a trial in Georgia, a trial in DC or a trial in Florida this year due to them being challenged on multiple fronts.

I may be wrong, but I think Fani screwed the pooch and the Georgia cases ends up going away as does her law career. I am sure you will agree, her actions should get her fired since you are all about law and order.
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(02-03-2024, 07:04 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Presidential immunity has a very wide scope by design. Trump has not been charged with insurrection r has killed anyone on 5th avenue. In time, we will see but the justices decision could impact not only President Trump's actions, but any current or former President action's. We will see how they rule, either way, to your dismay there likely will no not be a trial in Georgia, a trial in DC or a trial in Florida this year due to them being challenged on multiple fronts.

I may be wrong, but I think Fani screwed the pooch and the Georgia cases ends up going away as does her law career. I am sure you will agree, her actions should get her fired since you are all about law and order.

Trump has been charged in the fake elector scheme.  That is the heart of the case in DC.  He has been charged with defrauding the United States.  Fraud is a common theme in the Trump world.  Valuation fraud in NYC, Trump University fraud.

No President should be exempt from blatant illegal actions especially when they are to their personal benefit.  Trump's lawyers tried that argument when they conceded they believed that a sitting President could order Seal Team 6 to assassinate their opponent with impeachment as the only repercussion.  That argument will be a bridge too far, even for this conservative court.  Do you think Richard Nixon's Watergate actions should have been exempt from prosecution?   Trump for the first time in his life is facing real consequences for his personal behavior.

Why would the Georgia case go away?  If Fani Willis can't handle the prosecution others in her office will.  This isn't a get-out-of-jail-free card for Trump.
 

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(02-03-2024, 09:20 PM)pally Wrote: Why would the Georgia case go away?  If Fani Willis can't handle the prosecution others in her office will.  This isn't a get-out-of-jail-free card for Trump.

Two people who are not Luvnit have already explained this in this very thread.

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(02-04-2024, 05:24 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Two people who are not Luvnit have already explained this in this very thread.


The case doesn't need Fani Willis to the take the case to trial.  The Gwinnett or DeKalb County District Attorney's can take up the case if need be.  But, as of right now, there are zero legal reasons to remove the Fulton County office from trying the case even if Ms Willis needs to step away.  
 

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(02-04-2024, 06:14 PM)pally Wrote: The case doesn't need Fani Willis to the take the case to trial.  The Gwinnett or DeKalb County District Attorney's can take up the case if need be.  But, as of right now, there are zero legal reasons to remove the Fulton County office from trying the case even if Ms Willis needs to step away.  

I'll repeat, this has already been explained by two separate people in this very thread.

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(02-04-2024, 06:14 PM)pally Wrote: The case doesn't need Fani Willis to the take the case to trial.  The Gwinnett or DeKalb County District Attorney's can take up the case if need be.  But, as of right now, there are zero legal reasons to remove the Fulton County office from trying the case even if Ms Willis needs to step away.  

I am sure you are correct and the Georgia case and everyone else explaining it to you are wrong.  Smirk

As for Presidential immunity, again we will see. Smith's argument he was no longer the President on Jan. 6th or when he removed documents make no sense. He did not stop being POTUS until teh day Biden was sworn into office.

I have read many articles and listened to many legal experts, a lot of them are saying they expect the Supreme Court to vote 9-0 that the POTUS is in fact immune. I stated one huge reason, they would no longer be exempt from war crimes like Obama, Trump and now Biden have all committed by bombing other countries. In Trump's case, he did isolate and take out a known terrorist, but Biden just bombed Iraq and Syria without authorization from Congress or the UN.
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This is an article explaining all of the snags and deadlines each trial is hitting. It is Fox reporting what some experts have said say take it or leave it, your choice. But it appears unlikely any criminal trials will be held in 2024, too many hurdles to climb.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-focuses-trial-strategy-delay-election-day-creeps-closer-legal-experts

Trump seeks to run out the clock as delays push trials closer to Election Day: legal expert
Judge has indefinitely suspended Trump’s trial in 2020 election interference case
Timing could benefit former President Trump as he faces down four criminal trials that are mired in controversy and legal obstacles while Election Day 2024 creeps closer, legal experts say.

"Does it eventually get so late in the election-campaign calendar that it would be too unseemly to start trial? I would hope so," former assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York Andrew McCarthy, a Fox News contributor, wrote in an op-ed for National Review on Saturday.


"The administration of justice in criminal cases is an important national priority, but it’s not the only one – or, necessarily, the highest one. How much intrusion on politics by the justice system should Americans tolerate – particularly under circumstances in which the intrusion is being orchestrated by the administration of the incumbent president against his campaign opponent?"


McCarthy’s op-ed was in response to a federal judge suspending Trump’s trial involving Special Counsel Jack Smith’s 2020 election interference investigation indefinitely last week after it was set to begin on March 4. The move comes after Trump’s legal team filed an appeal to argue that the former president is granted immunity from prosecution for actions while in office.



"A president of the United States must have full immunity, without which it would be impossible for him/her to properly function," Trump said last week on Truth Social in all caps. "Any mistake, even if well intended, would be met with almost certain indictment by the opposing party at term end. Even events that 'cross the line' must fall under total immunity, or it will be years of trauma trying to determine good from bad."

An appeals court is reviewing Trump’s argument, tying the presiding judge’s hands from proceeding with the case. Trump filed an appeal in December, with a three-judge panel hearing arguments last month. No opinion has yet been issued, and the case could be sent to the full circuit court or Supreme Court for review, which would add additional time to proceedings.

McCarthy has been arguing that Trump’s trial strategy is "delay, delay, delay," adding that after the postponed trial, a midsummer trial date for the D.C. case is "ambitious" and will likely be closer to Election day.

"The election-interference prosecution of Donald Trump, the former president and likely Republican presidential nominee, by the Justice Department of Joe Biden, the incumbent president and Trump’s likely Democratic opponent, is the most politically charged in American history," McCarthy wrote in a January column for National Review.

He argued Saturday in a column that the delay of the trial did not come as a shock, and only solidified what had long been anticipated due to Trump’s appeal. In addition to the appeal potentially being heard by the full 11-member Circuit Court or Supreme Court, pre-trial work could hold up the trial even longer, making a midsummer trial date "optimistic."

"Why? Because there is a lot of pre-trial work, including administrative detail, that must be attended to for a case to get to trial. As I elaborated in my [January column] about Trump’s delay strategy, the pre-trial process includes discovery, motions to dismiss the case or suppress evidence, hearings on motions, and so on. Whenever jurisdiction is finally returned to Judge Chutkan, all of that will have to crank up again – it takes a long time to get through, and it’s not like this is the only case on Her Honor’s docket," he wrote.

McCarthy speculated whether the courts would allow the anticipated GOP nominee to languish in courtrooms for weeks as Election Day comes down to the wire.

"​​Defendants have to be present in court for the entirety of criminal trials. Could we really have the Republican nominee stuck in a courtroom from, say, August through October? I’m sure that would be fine with the Biden Justice Department’s special counsel. The question may be whether the court will go along," McCarthy concluded.


The former assistant U.S. attorney told Fox Digital that Jack Smith "will push to go to trial in the Washington case no matter how late in the election campaign calendar it gets," but he noted that Smith is not in the driver’s seat when it comes to determining schedules.

"But when the trial gets scheduled is up to the judge, not the prosecutor. The question will be whether the courts are content to be perceived by half the public as part of a partisan scheme to get Trump tried and convicted prior to Election Day," he said.[/b

In his op-ed, McCarthy also [b]cited former prosecutor Bill Shipley – who has represented a handful of separate Jan. 6 cases – pointing to his X posts, explaining that it would be wildly difficult to seat a jury in the D.C. case. The courts will need to vet hundreds of potential jurors, including sending out questionnaires weeks ahead of the trial. That process cannot begin without a trial date as the top question asked of jurors is whether they are able to serve for a two- to three-month period beginning on a certain date.


Shipley checked "scores" on Trump’s legal battles last week and argued that cases against Trump in Georgia, Florida, D.C. and the New York Stormy Daniels case have been hit with legal obstacles and issues that benefit Trump.

Shipley told Fox News Digital on Sunday that it "has been only 26 days since the Trump immunity appeal was argued" and that the "average time between argument and opinion was 116 days," meaning the appeals court will likely issue an opinion on his immunity appeal on May 12.

"There is no legal basis for the proposition that Trump's case should be decided ahead of other Circuit Court cases that were argued before Jan. 9. Delays in appeals courts routinely force trial dates to be pushed back. The fact that it has happened to Trump's trials means the appeals court is handling it like it would any other case," he told Fox News Digital.

In New York, Trump is accused of allegedly falsifying business records to conceal hush-money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels during the 2016 election. The trial for that case is tentatively scheduled for March, meaning it would be the first of Trump’s four high-profile criminal trials following the postponement of the D.C. case.

"Those are misdemeanors my good sir, and the statute of limitations expired in 2021," Shipley wrote on X of the hush-money case. Trump’s attorneys also noted last year that the statute of limitations would typically be subject to a five-year statute of limitations. New York, however, extends the statute of limitations if a defendant "was continuously outside this state.

McCarthy told Fox News Digital that after the postponement of the D.C. trial, it's unlikely that Democrats will first head to trial against Trump in the New York case [b]because it’s "nakedly political
," although the door is open to that possibility. [/b]

"It’s hard for me to believe Democrats want to go first with that trial. It’s such a ludicrous case that Trump could get acquitted, even in Manhattan; and if he gets convicted, it’s such a nakedly political prosecution that he won’t be hurt much by it," he said.[/b]

Trump was also charged in Georgia with allegedly attempting to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election, which has recently been mired in controversy after the Trump team claimed District Attorney Fani Willis was having an affair with one of her top prosecutors.
Willis admitted last week to having a personal relationship with the special prosecutor she hired, Nathan Wade, but denied the "salacious" allegations against her having "merit."

Trump’s team is calling for the prosecutors to be disqualified and his charges dismissed. No trial has been set in that case.

[b]In Florida, Trump was charged for allegedly mishandling classified documents following his presidency, and he is scheduled to face trial on May 20. The case may be postponed, however, with the presiding judge – a Trump nominee – saying she’d revisit the date during a March 1 hearing.

Shipley also noted that having the presumed GOP nominee sit in courtrooms instead of campaigning late in the election cycle would be unprecedented, and he has long speculated that Trump’s federal trials wouldn’t begin until after the start of August.

Former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago home is seen on Aug. 9, 2022, in Palm Beach, Florida. (Matias J. Ocner/Miami Herald/Tribune News Service via Getty Images)

"For several months I have been taking it at face value that no trial in either federal case would begin after Aug. 1. Both cases are expected to take 2-3 months, and trials in the Aug-Oct time period would be right in the middle of the general campaign. Trump would be required to sit in a courtroom in Washington DC rather than – as the nominee of a major party – be out doing the usual kind of campaign events," Shipley wrote on Twitter.

FANI WILLIS, WHO 'RELISHED IN' DONALD TRUMP PROSECUTION, SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM CASE FOR ILLICIT AFFAIR: EXPERTS

In December, Smith’s authority in the federal cases even came into question after former Reagan administration Attorney General Edwin Meese filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court to argue that Smith’s appointment as special counsel wasn’t lawful and thus he can’t prosecute Trump. Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed Smith to the position as he was working as a private citizen, with Meese arguing he should have been selected by the president, then confirmed by the Senate and working within the Justice Department to serve as special counsel.

Trump has repeatedly defended his innocence in the four cases, calling the charges a "witch hunt" at the hands of Democrats who seek to silence him.


"Deranged Jack Smith, Letitia ‘Peekaboo’ James, Alvin Bragg, the J6 Committee of Political Thugs (who have deleted and destroyed all evidence and findings), and all of the rest of the Biden prosecutors and ‘bad people who hate our Country,’ are just as guilty as Fani Willis. It’s Biden Investigations for purposes of ELECTION INTERFERENCE," Trump wrote on Truth Social last week.

Amid the legal battles, Trump is also on the campaign trail. He holds a commanding 26-point lead in South Carolina over Nikki Haley, who served as governor in the state from 2011 to 2017, according to a Monmouth University-Washington Post poll. The state’s primary is to be held on Feb. 24. Trump previously won the Iowa caucuses, as well as the nation’s first primary last month in New Hampshire.
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Everybody in the country knows Trump is doing everything possible to delay all the trials. He knows he’s guilty and the only way to avoid jail is to prevent the trials from ever happening. Interesting thing to note, is that none of his trial tactics hinge on him claiming innocence. He essentially admits his actions but claim they weren’t illegal because he was President.

Doesn’t mean his tactics will work.

Trump’s actions with the documents were post-Presidency…no immunity
Trump’s actions surrounding Jan 6 were to push his candidacy…no immunity

If his defense hinges on immunity claims I hope he enjoys his stay in the federal pen because I don’t care what Fox News says no President is above the law especially for actions that attempted to circumvent the very constitution he swore to preserve and protect
 

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Here is an unbiased story from a couple weeks ago.

If Willis is removed or steps down it is possible to find someone else to continue the case in some fashion.

Right now republicans cannot simply remove here because of a court ruling against them that says they cannot.

https://apnews.com/article/willis-wade-affair-allegations-election-interference-trump-9a292135a319fd203190a107e3f4f4dc


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ATLANTA (AP) — Accusations that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis had an inappropriate relationship with a special prosecutor she hired to seek convictions of Donald Trump and others for interfering in Georgia’s 2020 election have led to renewed calls to remove Willis from the case.

Willis has defended her hiring of Nathan Wade, who has little prosecutorial experience, and has not directly denied a romantic relationship. The allegations were first made public in a motion filed earlier this month by defense attorney Ashleigh Merchant, who represents former Trump campaign staffer and White House aide Michael Roman.


Merchant alleges that Willis’ office paid Wade large sums and that Willis improperly benefited when Wade then paid for the two of them to go on vacations. Merchant has not offered any proof of the alleged relationship. But a filing last week by Wade’s wife in their divorce case includes credit card records that show that Wade bought plane tickets for Willis to travel with him to Miami and San Francisco.

Willis, an elected Democrat, has shown no signs of stepping down, but there are ways she could be removed. Here’s a look at some options:


WHAT CAN THE JUDGE DO?
Merchant’s motion asks Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee to remove Willis and Wade and their offices from any further prosecution of the case. McAfee has the power to do that.

In fact, another judge, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney, took that step in July 2022 when he was presiding over the special grand jury investigation that preceded the indictment in the election case.


Then-Sen. Burt Jones, one of 16 Georgia Republicans who signed a certificate falsely stating that Trump had won the election and declaring themselves the state’s “duly elected and qualified” electors, had been told he was a target in the election case. He argued that Willis had a conflict of interest because she had hosted a fundraiser for his Democratic opponent in the lieutenant governor’s race.

McBurney ruled in Jones’ favor, writing that the situation had gone beyond bad optics and had created “a plain — and actual and untenable — conflict.” He prohibited Willis and her office from prosecuting Jones in the case.


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If McAfee decides to take similar action and to remove Willis and her office from the election case, it would be up to the Prosecuting Attorneys’ Council of Georgia to find another prosecutor to take the case. That person could continue on the track that Willis has taken, could choose to pursue only some charges or could dismiss the case altogether.
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Finding a prosecutor willing and able to take on the sprawling case could be difficult, former Gwinnett County District Attorney Danny Porter said. Only a few district attorneys in the state — all around Atlanta — have the resources to handle such a case, he said.

COULD WILLIS STEP AWAY FROM THE CASE IN ORDER TO SAVE IT?
If Willis were to recuse herself, it’s likely her whole office would have to step away from the case, Porter said. In that scenario, too, it would be up to the Prosecuting Attorneys’ Council to find someone to take it on.
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FILE - Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis appears during a hearing regarding defendant Harrison Floyd, a leader in the organization Black Voices for Trump, as part of the Georgia election indictments, Nov. 21, 2023, in Atlanta. Accusations that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis had an inappropriate relationship with a special prosecutor she hired to seek convictions of Donald Trump and others for interfering in Georgia’s 2020 election have led to renewed calls to remove Willis from the case. (Dennis Byron/Hip Hop Enquirer via AP)


Attorney Norm Eisen, who served as former President Barack Obama’s ethics czar, said in a press briefing Saturday that based on what he knows so far, “there is absolutely no legal basis under Georgia law” for Willis or Wade to be disqualified.
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But, Eisen said, “the wise thing to do at this point is for Mr. Wade to voluntarily end his time on this case.” Even though he is not legally required to do so, Eisen said, “at this point, the conversation about these issues has become a distraction” from the “overwhelming amount of evidence justifying the decision to prosecute Mr. Trump and his co-conspirators.”


COULD AN OVERSIGHT COMMISSION REMOVE HER?
Many Republicans would like to see Willis investigated by Georgia’s new Prosecuting Attorneys Qualification Commission. That body was created last year to discipline and remove prosecutors. But it hit a snag after the state Supreme Court refused to approve the commission’s rules.


Lawmakers this year are seeking to remove the court’s required approval, allowing the commission to begin operating. The commission would be able to remove district attorneys from office or discipline them for a conflict of interest, “conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice which brings the office into disrepute” or for “willful misconduct in office.”


However, it’s unlikely that the commission could remove Willis just from the Trump case, unless she agreed to step aside in a negotiated settlement.


COULD STATE LAWMAKERS IMPEACH WILLIS?
A few lawmakers have proposed impeaching and removing Willis, an idea Trump endorsed over the summer. However, Georgia’s General Assembly hasn’t impeached anyone in more than 50 years. And a two-thirds majority of the state Senate is required to convict. That’s a tough hurdle because Republicans currently control less than two-thirds in the 56-seat Senate. A Republican is likely to win a vacant seat, bringing the GOP majority back to 33. Even then, five Democrats would have to vote to convict.

Also working against an impeachment proceeding: All of Georgia’s lawmakers are up for reelection this year. Taking up impeachment could keep them in session and off the campaign trail.


State Sen. Colton Moore of Trenton tried to persuade fellow Republicans to call themselves into special session over the summer to go after Willis, but never got close.


Donald Trump is facing four criminal indictments, and a civil lawsuit. You can track all of the cases here.


COULD THE STATE BAR STEP IN?

The State Bar of Georgia, which regulates lawyers, adopted special rules in 2021 governing prosecutorial misconduct. But those rules dealt with a prosecutor’s duty to disclose evidence that might prove someone’s innocence.

If Willis were to face consequences from the bar, she would have to be disciplined under the rules applying to all lawyers. The bar has rules against conflicts of interest, but they are mostly geared to private lawyers who may mistreat clients. It’s unclear how those rules might apply to this case.


ARE THERE OTHER CONSEQUENCES?

A Fulton County commissioner, Republican Bob Ellis, sent Willis a letter Friday demanding information on how she spent county money and “whether any payments of county funds to Mr. Wade were converted to your personal gain in the form of subsidized travel or other gifts.” Commissioners could cut Willis’ budget in the future, but Democrats hold a majority on the commission. Fulton County’s government has a code of ethics, but the county doesn’t appear to prohibit consensual relationships. The county Board of Ethics could fine and reprimand Willis, but doesn’t have the power to remove her.

Similarly on Monday, State Sen. Brandon Beach, an Alpharetta Republican and close Trump ally, asked state Inspector General Nigel Lange to investigate if state funds were spent on Wade that later flowed to Willis’ personal use.


Republican state Sen. Greg Dolezal of Cumming on Monday proposed a special Senate committee to investigate Willis, saying a “thorough and impartial examination” would “ensure transparency, accountability and the preservation of the integrity of our justice system.” Dolezal’s proposed resolution suggests legal or budget changes could follow any inquiry.


It is clear that republicans and many in this thread do not want the case tried and they will do everything in their power to stop it in order to protect P01135809, so I am sure those in office in GA are actually working trying to find a way to save him...whether they can or not remains to be seen no matter the opinions shared.

And once again we are left with people defending a career liar and fraud, caught on tape, and attacking those trying to hold him accountable for his actions...not just his words.

What a world.
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(02-05-2024, 10:19 AM)GMDino Wrote: Here is an unbiased story from a couple weeks ago.

If Willis is removed or steps down it is possible to find someone else to continue the case in some fashion.

Right now republicans cannot simply remove here because of a court ruling against them that says they cannot.

https://apnews.com/article/willis-wade-affair-allegations-election-interference-trump-9a292135a319fd203190a107e3f4f4dc




It is clear that republicans and many in this thread do not want the case tried and they will do everything in their power to stop it in order to protect P01135809, so I am sure those in office in GA are actually working trying to find a way to save him...whether they can or not remains to be seen no matter the opinions shared.

Not sure who the "many" are you're referring to, as only Luvnit's posts could even come close to being inferred as such?  Are you referring to Bel?  I mean he is a known Trump supporter.  Whatever

Quote:And once again we are left with people defending a career liar and fraud, caught on tape, and attacking those trying to hold him accountable for his actions...not just his words.  

What a world.

You interpretations of the posts of others is always interesting, albeit not in a good way.  If you're dismayed by the fact that the GA case against Trump is now a smoldering train wreck then your anger should be directed at Willis and her blatant corruption.  Whether Trump did anything wrong in this matter, and I'm talking about that being determined in a court of law,  he will now face zero consequences because of her corruption.  But, instead of directing your anger at this towards her you lash out at someone who disagrees with you on a message board.  As I've said many times in the past, you are borderline incapable of criticizing someone on your side of the aisle.  And your thread on those criminals the other day had given me such hope.

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