"Trump's Army": Four Proud Boys convicted of Sedition

[Dill]

Four Proud Boys Convicted of Sedition in Key Jan. 6 Case
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/04/us/politics/jan-6-proud-boys-sedition.html?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20230504&instance_id=91763&nl=from-the-times&regi_id=115336211&segment_id=132103&te=1&user_id=98d040cfc463129084276e2affe091f0

The sedition charge, which is rarely used and harks back to the Union’s efforts to protect the federal government against secessionist rebels during the Civil War, was also used in two separate trials against nine members of another far-right group, the Oath Keepers militia. Six of those defendants — including Stewart Rhodes, the organization’s founder and leader — were convicted of sedition; each of the others was found guilty of different serious felonies.

As the verdicts were read in the fourth-floor courtroom, Mr. Tarrio, Mr. Pezzola and the other defendants — Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs and Zachary Rehl — remained steely. With the exception of Mr. Pezzola, the men were also found guilty of conspiring to obstruct the certification of the election, which took place at the Capitol on Jan. 6. All five defendants were convicted of a third conspiracy count as well, which accused them of interfering with the duties of members of Congress that day.

On the conspiracy counts alone, the men could face a maximum of nearly 50 years in prison. And they were found guilty of other felonies as well.

The Proud Boys — who had been fighting on the streets since 2017 for a range of far-right causes — became a central focus of the F.B.I.’s investigation into Jan. 6 within days of the attack. The defendants were taken into custody in a series of arrests beginning in January 2021. More than 20 other members of the group from chapters ranging from New York to Hawaii were ultimately charged in separate cases in connection with the Capitol attack....
Judge Kelly’s rulings allowed prosecutors to introduce damning evidence about the violent behavior and aggressive language of members of the Proud Boys who had only limited connections to the five defendants. The rulings also permitted jurors to convict on conspiracy even if they found there was no plan to disrupt the certification of the election, but merely an unspoken agreement to do so....

From the outset, the trial provided a unique and disturbing glimpse into the Proud Boys’ culture, as a trove of internal group chats and recordings revealed a toxic stew of machismo, homophobia and misogyny often accompanied by sophomoric humor and rampant alcohol use. The jury heard members of the group engaging in casual antisemitism and, in some cases, promoting outright Nazi sympathy.

Mr. Trump loomed large over the proceeding. In closing arguments, the prosecution placed the former president — a figure the Proud Boys revered since his first days in the White House — at the heart of their story.

They told the jury that the defendants and others in the group refused to accept Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory and that, acting as “Donald Trump’s army,” they organized and ultimately fought “to keep their preferred leader in power no matter what the law or the courts had to say about it.”
A prime example of the Proud Boys’ ties to Mr. Trump came in December 2020, when he posted a message on Twitter calling for a “wild” protest to be held in Washington on Jan. 6. Hearing the post as a call to action, Mr. Tarrio and his lieutenants organized a group of so-called “real men” — referred to as the Ministry of Self-Defense — to be on the ground in Washington that day.

In private online chats, Mr. Tarrio said the group was meant to “standardize event organizing.” But he also added a cryptic message: “ — whispers — Seventeen seventy six.” Prosecutors said that was his subtle way of suggesting that the Ministry of Self-Defense was bent on revolution, and they called the group “a violent gang that came together to use force against its enemies.”...
Lacking a smoking gun, prosecutors used two cooperating witness, Jeremy Bertino and Matthew Greene, to make what amounted to an inferential case that the five defendants had worked together to violently subvert the democratic process....
“I expected them to save the country by any means necessary, up to and including violence,” Mr. Bertino said.

Mr. Greene, a former Proud Boy from New York, testified that he was surprised when the group’s leaders — including Mr. Nordean, Mr. Biggs and Mr. Rehl — marched about 200 Proud Boys away from Mr. Trump’s speech near the Ellipse on Jan. 6 and toward the Capitol.

But when rioters burst through barricades outside the building minutes after the Proud Boys arrived, Mr. Greene said he realized that this may have been the plan all along.

“I was putting two and two together,” he recalled, “and saying, ‘This is it.’”

From the start of the trial, prosecutors faced another difficult hurdle.
The Proud Boys as a whole were some of the most violent actors in the huge mob that stormed the Capitol as scores of its members played decisive roles in breaching barricades and assaulting the police.

But violence by the defendants themselves — who were mostly leaders of the group — was relatively limited. Mr. Tarrio was not even in Washington on Jan. 6, having been kicked out of the city days earlier by a local judge presiding over a separate criminal matter.

To build a case against the five men on trial, prosecutors convinced Judge Kelly to let them introduce videos of other Proud Boys and Trump supporters in the crowd who had acted violently, even if they had only limited connections to the defendants. Prosecutors argued that Mr. Tarrio and the other defendants wielded the others rioters as “tools” of their conspiracy — a novel legal strategy.

The defense was outraged by this theory and argued — unsuccessfully — that the approach was “absurd” and armed the prosecution with “an expanded power.”

“The argument is that just because defendants associated with people who did bad acts, they did bad acts,” Nicholas Smith, Mr. Nordean’s lawyer, said in court. “The other term for that is guilt by association.”

[xxlt]

(05-04-2023, 04:53 PM)Dill Wrote:
Four Proud Boys Convicted of Sedition in Key Jan. 6 Case
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/04/us/politics/jan-6-proud-boys-sedition.html?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20230504&instance_id=91763&nl=from-the-times&regi_id=115336211&segment_id=132103&te=1&user_id=98d040cfc463129084276e2affe091f0

The sedition charge, which is rarely used and harks back to the Union’s efforts to protect the federal government against secessionist rebels during the Civil War, was also used in two separate trials against nine members of another far-right group, the Oath Keepers militia. Six of those defendants — including Stewart Rhodes, the organization’s founder and leader — were convicted of sedition; each of the others was found guilty of different serious felonies.

As the verdicts were read in the fourth-floor courtroom, Mr. Tarrio, Mr. Pezzola and the other defendants — Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs and Zachary Rehl — remained steely. With the exception of Mr. Pezzola, the men were also found guilty of conspiring to obstruct the certification of the election, which took place at the Capitol on Jan. 6. All five defendants were convicted of a third conspiracy count as well, which accused them of interfering with the duties of members of Congress that day.

On the conspiracy counts alone, the men could face a maximum of nearly 50 years in prison. And they were found guilty of other felonies as well.

The Proud Boys — who had been fighting on the streets since 2017 for a range of far-right causes — became a central focus of the F.B.I.’s investigation into Jan. 6 within days of the attack. The defendants were taken into custody in a series of arrests beginning in January 2021. More than 20 other members of the group from chapters ranging from New York to Hawaii were ultimately charged in separate cases in connection with the Capitol attack....
Judge Kelly’s rulings allowed prosecutors to introduce damning evidence about the violent behavior and aggressive language of members of the Proud Boys who had only limited connections to the five defendants. The rulings also permitted jurors to convict on conspiracy even if they found there was no plan to disrupt the certification of the election, but merely an unspoken agreement to do so....

From the outset, the trial provided a unique and disturbing glimpse into the Proud Boys’ culture, as a trove of internal group chats and recordings revealed a toxic stew of machismo, homophobia and misogyny often accompanied by sophomoric humor and rampant alcohol use. The jury heard members of the group engaging in casual antisemitism and, in some cases, promoting outright Nazi sympathy.

Mr. Trump loomed large over the proceeding. In closing arguments, the prosecution placed the former president — a figure the Proud Boys revered since his first days in the White House — at the heart of their story.

They told the jury that the defendants and others in the group refused to accept Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory and that, acting as “Donald Trump’s army,” they organized and ultimately fought “to keep their preferred leader in power no matter what the law or the courts had to say about it.”
A prime example of the Proud Boys’ ties to Mr. Trump came in December 2020, when he posted a message on Twitter calling for a “wild” protest to be held in Washington on Jan. 6. Hearing the post as a call to action, Mr. Tarrio and his lieutenants organized a group of so-called “real men” — referred to as the Ministry of Self-Defense — to be on the ground in Washington that day.

These convictions were a long time coming. RICO type charges on deck for America's favorite former reality tv star? Let's hope....It is funny...there were people saying well before the Trump candidacy there was a big swath of the country lurching this way (towards fascism and betrayal of American values and government). We would rather have been wrong, but clearly we weren't, for the record. Cheers to those who called it 

[samhain]

That statement from Roberts is wild.

[*Nately120*]

(05-04-2023, 09:44 PM)samhain Wrote: That statement from Roberts is wild.

I'll have to recite that the next time someone asks me why they should have to pay for my student loan debt.

[BIGDADDYFROMCINCINNATI]

If you paid attention to AG Merrick Garland's statement during his press conference, he's signaling that AUSAG Jack Smith is about ready to drop the hammer on the people behind the treasonous acts that lead to the insurrection of January 6th.  Benedict Donald the traitor Trump, Rudy Giuliani,  John Eastman, Mark Meadows, et al., all now know a duly impaneled jury of 12 men and women will hold them all accountable and find them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

***Edit***

A judge just pretty much threw the book at a Jan 6th Oath Keepers insurrectionist and gave him 170 months (14 years, 2 months) in a federal penitentiary for the crime of Seditious Conspiracy.  

https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-capitol-peter-schwartz-insurrection-9176bad22fff2bafaea5c32ce06bb772

[Dill]

Glad to hear from you XXLT. 

The Proud Boys case is kind of interesting.

Enrique Tarrio, the leader, is black Puerto Rican I believe. So someone on the news raised a question of who he's going to mix
with in prison. 

White gangs won't take him. What about the other possibities for a minority who preaches the superiority of white civilization? 

[Dill]

(05-05-2023, 06:26 PM)BIGDADDYFROMCINCINNATI Wrote: If you paid attention to AG Merrick Garland's statement during his press conference, he's signaling that AUSAG Jack Smith is about ready to drop the hammer on the people behind the treasonous acts that lead to the insurrection of January 6th.  Benedict Donald the traitor Trump, Rudy Giuliani,  John Eastman, Mark Meadows, et al., all now know a duly impaneled jury of 12 men and women will hold them all accountable and find them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

***Edit***

A judge just pretty much threw the book at a Jan 6th Oath Keepers insurrectionist and gave him 170 months (14 years, 2 months) in a federal penitentiary for the crime of Seditious Conspiracy.  

https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-capitol-peter-schwartz-insurrection-9176bad22fff2bafaea5c32ce06bb772

Some accountability at least.

I still want to see the big fish go down though, the guys pulling the strings. Trump, Meadows, Guiliani.