Virginia/New Jersey Governor races

[*Nately120*]

I heard JFK Jr was going to show up for his Q followers in Dallas, but he was too busy railing the Tooth Fairy to show up. Typical Kennedy.

[jj22]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/january-6-capitol-riot-republicans-elected-to-office_n_6181bc04e4b0ad6f587b79a8

Could you imagine if Dems were apart of something like this (cheering people on in a government building, national treasure, while tweeting the whereabouts of people they were chanting to kill, as they beat up and killed police, stole property, caused over 10 police officers to commit suicide after they realized the party they loved really weren't for "bluelives", but only for blue lives when they killed black men) and then ran for office. First they would have never been elected, second it would be a black eye on the whole party and the country and their voters would never allow for it.

We are living some times. We have to do better to save whatever is left of America and any notion that we are a good people with high character, grace.

[NATI BENGALS]

(11-03-2021, 04:58 PM)jj22 Wrote: Elections are legit if you win, rigged if you lose? I honestly know majority of Americans lack character and this only proves it as the elections are rigged crowd celebrates this win and claims a political landscape change. But I'll never no matter the majority, think this is what we as people should be. I think it's lame, and will always think this no matter if I am in the minority. This is the country we live in. Celebrate a win, cry "rigged" and fake if lose. Class and character is just frowned upon in this political climate and Country.

Anyway, any update if JFK showed up for the 100's of thousands that came to see him in Texas as they were told he was going to announce Trumps reinstatement? You have to chuckle at the lies they are told and believe, but at this point the lies and conspiracy's that are being believed and what we are being sold from Republicans is far deeper and darker then ever before.

Folks may slam me for wondering if the country is lost given the hundreds of thousands lining the streets to see someone dead, and people voting for a party that pushes this because they belong to that party, but in real life, this is unhealthy and is a sign of our future leadership and it isn't bright.

I haven’t seen anything saying hundreds of thousands.


I did see traitors who participated in 1/6 to overthrow our government won elections as republicans though. That is a real bummer for a person who actually likes the USA. May have to buy guns soon simply because of the number of republicans comfortable with the attempted coup.

[jj22]

I do applaud the class of Dems for not crying it was rigged, and excepting the loss and respecting our Democracy. I know that is frowned upon by American voters, but I if only a dying few, believe this is how you handle defeat with dignity.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(11-03-2021, 05:42 PM)jj22 Wrote: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/january-6-capitol-riot-republicans-elected-to-office_n_6181bc04e4b0ad6f587b79a8

Could you imagine if Dems were apart of something like this (cheering people on in a government building, national treasure, while tweeting the whereabouts of people they were chanting to kill, as they beat up and killed police, stole property, caused over 10 police officers to commit suicide after they realized the party they loved really weren't for "bluelives", but only for blue lives when they killed black men) and then ran for office. First they would have never been elected, second it would be a black eye on the whole party and the country and their voters would never allow for it.

We are living some times. We have to do better to save whatever is left of America and any notion that we are a good people with high character, grace.

Much like you can be at a BLM protest and not be engaged in, or responsible for, any subsequent violence, looting and arson you can be at the 01/06 protest and have taken no part in the lawlessness that some subsequently engaged in.  Now, if you can show that these people participated in the illegal activities, I'm all for removing them from office post haste.  Do you have such proof?

Or is your position that every attendee is responsible for the actions of all other attendees?  Because that would have rather ominous implications.

[jj22]

They weren't at those events that were violent and rioting tho Socio. You can't say that since they weren't pointing out where to go to commit the crime, texting as the riot was going on to let them know who to hit next, applauding the riots as they happened, cheering them on as they killed police. Many Dems spoke out against the rioting. You (for once), aren't being fair with that comparison at all, and I'm disappointed in you for even acting like it was the same.

Biden, Obama, nearly all Dem leadership called for peaceful protests and spoke out against the riots and violence. I can show video if needed, but I believe you know this to be true.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(11-03-2021, 06:00 PM)jj22 Wrote: They weren't at those events that were violent and rioting tho Socio. You can't say that since they weren't pointing out where to go to commit the crime, texting as the riot was going on to let them know who to hit next, applauding the riots as they happened, cheering them on as they killed police. Many Dems spoke out against the rioting. You (for once), aren't being fair with that comparison at all, and I'm disappointed in you for even acting like it was the same.

Biden, Obama, nearly all Dem leadership called for peaceful protests and spoke out against the riots and violence. I can show video if needed, but I believe you know this to be true.

You'll have to provide me with evidence of your above claims before I can comment on them.  After all your own source states the following;

Quote:Although most have claimed they didn’t breach the U.S. Capitol on that day, all were participants in the demonstration leading up to the attack, standing alongside extremists to take part in the finale of a months-long anti-democratic campaign to falsely claim that then-President Donald Trump hadn’t really lost the 2020 election.

So by your own source they were all present but claimed to not have entered the Capitol.  I did not note the "most have claimed" part of the above quote and read the article hyperlinked.  It noted that only one of them has been accused of entering the Capitol and that they have been charged and subsequently resigned.  

Quote:The only one who was charged with actually entering the Capitol, then–West Virginia delegate Derrick Evans, has pleaded not guilty and resigned.

So, your own source is contradicting your claims here, hence my request for further evidence that supports your claims.

[CarolinaBengalFanGuy]

This discussion is for the Virginia and New Jersey races. There’s a whole January 6 thread if y’all want to argue back and forth on that one.

[jj22]

I'm not here to spin 1/6 for people's political benefit.

When Obama etc give a rallying speech to BLM protesters before they go breach the capitol based on a lie of his he is pushing, and other Dems talk about violence needed and we won't go quietly just to march to the scene of the attack then we can claim it's the same. In real life you won't find no Dem leaders applauding the violence and not calling for peaceful protest.

But you know that Socio. Or else you would have posted it. I'll look again for Dem leaders promoting and speaking at a specific BLM event that they promoted for months while speaking outside of the store rioted at moments prior etc. Maybe I should have searched BLM "school tour".

This is what those who see the future America and cringe talk about. There are 70m of these people and many more. This is our future, and it is a dangerous one. This is what Republican lies has led to and as we saw last night, we've chuckled at them long enough, now it's time to realize this is a monster that has been created and will likely not be defeated. America is done for all intent and purposes if people continue to vote for this party that has them believing dangerous lies. Tuesday taught us that we are likely surrounded by over 70% of these people. 





Voters can't save us, Americans too far lost. It's going to take the good likely for generations to fight against these lies that have majority of Americans not living in reality.

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(11-03-2021, 08:33 PM)jj22 Wrote: I'm not here to spin 1/6 for people's political benefit.

I'm not asking for spin, I'm asking for facts.  But your failure to attempt to produce them is noted.

Quote:When Obama etc give a rallying speech to BLM protesters before they go breach the capitol based on a lie of his he is pushing, and other Dems talk about violence needed and we won't go quietly just to march to the scene of the attack then we can claim it's the same. In real life you won't find no Dem leaders applauding the violence and not calling for peaceful protest.

Well, "largely peaceful" protests. 

Quote:But you know that Socio. Or else you would have posted it. I'll look again for Dem leaders promoting and speaking at a specific BLM event that they promoted for months while speaking outside of the store rioted at moments prior etc. Maybe I should have searched BLM "school tour".

Are you saying Dem politicians have not promoted violence?  Maxine Waters says hello.

Quote:This is what those who see the future America and cringe talk about. There are 70m of these people and many more. This is our future, and it is a dangerous one. This is what Republican lies has led to and as we saw last night, we've chuckled at them long enough, now it's time to realize this is a monster that has been created and will likely not be defeated. America is done for all intent and purposes if people continue to vote for this party that has them believing dangerous lies. Tuesday taught us that we are likely surrounded by over 70% of these people. 

I could be wrong, but this doesn't come off as a call for peaceful resistance.

Quote:

Appalling.  I certainly could never find a far leftist advocating extreme violence on YouTube.  A virtual impossibility I assure you.

Quote:Voters can't save us, Americans too far lost. It's going to take the good likely for generations to fight against these lies that have majority of Americans not living in reality.

Yet another ominous statement.  Certainly not one in keeping with the idea of peaceful protest.  But, as has been pointed out, this thread is becoming derailed, so kindly do not take offense to my not responding to further posts not related to yesterday's elections.  I am more than amenable to addressing these questions of yours in a thread dedicated to their discussion though.

[jj22]

(11-03-2021, 09:00 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Yet another ominous statement.  Certainly not one in keeping with the idea of peaceful protest.  But, as has been pointed out, this thread is becoming derailed, so kindly do not take offense to my not responding to further posts not related to yesterday's elections.  I am more than amenable to addressing these questions of yours in a thread dedicated to their discussion though.

Fair enough, but for the record I'm not talking protest peaceful, peaceful resistance or otherwise. I'm talking speaking truth and continuing to do so for generations and generations to stop the domination of big lies. Not let lies and conspiracies become the new "truth". Which is what we are seeing, and witnessing the birth of. That is going to be the "battle" for the future. Not literally but figuratively. Protest don't do what they used to do so I'm not sold on their usefulness. Between me and you Cancel Culture is far more powerful in this new world, and you can do that behind a keyboard. Protests in their true form as we saw with the Civil Rights movement was important to get attention and have your message heard. With the internet and social media, it's not really needed like it was to make change.

I'm interested in you finding video's of libs calling for mass murder and getting applauded by the crowd. You thinking Liberal groups and politicians would get away with any of this is troublesome. We are going to need people like you to quit turning a blind eye and face reality. Reality is Liberals could never get away with events like this. 

[GMDino]

Other election news.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2021-boston-mayor-f7a18efbbb6068ed947df4c2d75ec500

Quote:Boston elects Wu, first woman and Asian American as mayor
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Boston Mayor-elect Michelle Wu greets supporters at her election night party, Tuesday Nov. 2, 2021, in Boston. Wu defeated fellow City Councilor Annissa Essaibi George in the race. (AP Photo/Josh Reynolds)
[url=https://apnews.com/article/election-2021-boston-mayor-f7a18efbbb6068ed947df4c2d75ec500/gallery/2af4874894354243841ca39dfc0b9945]BOSTON (AP) — Boston voters, marking a key milestone in the city’s long political history, for the first time elected a woman and an Asian American as mayor on Tuesday, tapping City Councilor Michelle Wu to serve in the city’s top political office.
Wu’s victory marks a turning point for the city. Boston had only elected white men as mayor before her.


“One of my sons asked me the other night if boys can be elected mayor of Boston,” Wu told supporters. “They have been, and they will again someday, but not tonight.”

The choice of Wu over fellow Boston City Councilor Annissa Essaibi George is just the latest marker of how much the Boston of not-so-long-ago — known for its ethnic neighborhoods, glad-handing politicians and mayors with Irish surnames — is giving way to a new Boston.
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Wu won’t have much time to revel in her win. She will be sworn in on Nov. 16.

“We are ready to meet this moment. We are ready to become a Boston for everyone. We’re ready to be a Boston that doesn’t push people out, but welcomes all who call our city home,” Wu said.

Just before Wu spoke, Essaibi George conceded the race.

“I want to offer a great big congratulations to Michelle Wu. She is the first woman, the first person of color and, as an Asian American, the first elected to be mayor of Boston,” Essaibi George told her supporters. “I know this is no small feat.”

Wu had racked up a series of high-profile endorsements, including support from acting Mayor Kim Janey, U.S. Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Edward Markey, and U.S. Rep. Ayanna Pressley, a former Boston city councilor and member of the “Squad” in Congress.

The election marks a pivotal moment for Boston, which has wrestled with racial strife throughout its history. Tensions spilled over into violence in the 1970s, when court-ordered desegregation of the city’s public schools led to the busing of Black students to predominantly white schools and white students to mostly Black schools.

Each of the five main mayoral candidates — all Democrats — had identified as a person of color.

The 36-year-old Wu, whose parents immigrated to the U.S. from Taiwan, grew up in Chicago and moved to Boston to attend Harvard University and Harvard Law School.

Essaibi George, 47, a lifelong Boston resident and former public school teacher, describes herself as a first-generation Arab-Polish American. Her father was a Muslim immigrant from Tunisia. Her mother, a Catholic, immigrated from Poland.
With her victory in hand, it’s now up to Wu to try to make good on some of her sweeping proposals.

Two of Wu’s most ambitious pledges focus on housing and public transportation, familiar themes for the city’s 675,000 residents.

To help push back against soaring housing costs that have forced some former residents out of the city, Wu has promised to pursue rent stabilization or rent control. The biggest hurdle to that proposal is the fact that Massachusetts voters narrowly approved a 1994 ballot question banning rent control statewide.

Another of Wu’s top campaign promises is to create a “fare free” public transit system. Wu has said the proposal would strengthen the city’s economy, address climate change and help those who take the bus or subway to school or work.

Like the rent control pledge, Wu can’t as mayor unilaterally do away with fares on the public transit system, which is under the control of the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority.

Wu said she would try to work with partners in state government to make each proposal a reality.

“We don’t have to choose between generational change and keeping the streetlights on, between tackling big problems with bold solutions and filling our potholes,” she said.

Other challenges that Wu will have to grapple with as mayor include public education, policing, the city’s ongoing struggle with the COVID-19 pandemic, and the long-term effects of climate change on the coastal metropolis.

The election was also a test of whether voters in a city long dominated by parochial neighborhood politics was ready to tap someone like Wu not born and raised in the city.

Wu was first elected in 2013 at age 28, becoming the first Asian American woman to serve on the council. In 2016, she became the first woman of color to serve as president. Essaibi George was first elected to the council in 2015.
The election reflects an increasingly diverse Boston.

The latest U.S. Census statistics show Boston residents who identify as white make up 44.6% of the population compared to Black residents (19.1%), Latino residents (18.7%) and residents of Asian descent (11.2%).

The city’s previous elected mayor — Democrat Marty Walsh — stepped down earlier this year to become U.S. Secretary of Labor under President Joe Biden. Walsh was replaced on an acting basis by Janey, sworn in March 24 as Boston’s first female and first Black mayor.

[GMDino]

They can't help themselves...

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/glenn-youngkins-underage-son-tried-to-vote-in-virginia-governors-election-officials-say/2870695/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand

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[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.9)]Glenn Youngkin's Underage Son Tried to Vote in Virginia Governor's Election, Officials Say
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Virginia Governor-elect Glenn Youngkin’s son tried to vote twice on Election Day despite being too young to be eligible. News4’s Julie Carey reports.


The 17-year-old son of Virginia Governor-elect Glenn Youngkin twice tried to cast a ballot on Election Day even though he is not yet eligible to vote, election officials confirm to News4. He was unsuccessful in his attempt to vote.


News4 is not naming Youngkin's son because he is a minor and has not been charged with a crime.

Fairfax County election officials said the teen went to the Hickory precinct polling place at Great Falls Library. The location is not the polling place assigned to his home address.

Election workers were able to determine he was not eligible to vote and didn't allow him to cast a ballot. The Fairfax County Office of Elections said it is investigating the incident.


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2:57
Glenn Youngkin's Underage Son Tried to Vote, Officials Say
The 17-year-old son of Virginia Governor-elect Glenn Youngkin twice tried to cast a ballot on Election Day even though he is not yet eligible to vote, election officials confirm to News4. Northern Virginia Bureau Chief Julie Carey reports.

"This morning, November 5, 2021, the General Registrar was made aware of concerns that a 17 [year-old] male attempted on two occasions to vote on election day. The young man presented identification but was ineligible to be registered due to his age and was not permitted to vote. The man was given a registration form and encouraged to register for future elections," the office of elections said in a statement.

Fairfax County Registrar Scott Konopasek said it’s unclear whether the teenager broke any election laws. Virginia’s criminal code makes it clear that it is a crime to use fraudulent information to vote, but attempting to vote when not eligible and not succeeding is not clearly addressed in the Virginia code, according to Konopasek.

"The man did not vote. He made no false statements. He did not disrupt voting. Based upon information available to me now, it appears that he committed no election offense as defined in Chapter 10 of the Elections Code."


A spokesperson for Youngkin's campaign gave the following statement:

"It’s unfortunate that while Glenn attempts to unite the Commonwealth around his positive message of better schools, safer streets, a lower cost of living, and more jobs, his political opponents—mad that they suffered historic losses this year—are pitching opposition research on a 17-year old kid who honestly misunderstood Virginia election law and simply asked polling officials if he was eligible to vote; when informed he was not, he went to school."

Handwritten notes in a report by the Hickory precinct chief show that the teen arrived at 9:30 a.m. Tuesday and requested a ballot. He was told he had to be 18 years old to vote and was instead offered a registration form, which he declined, the notes said.


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4:20
Balance of Power Shifts to Republicans in Virginia
Governor-elect Glenn Youngkin makes early promises on education as he prepares to take over next year. Northern Virginia reporter Drew Wilder reports.

The same voter came back to the precinct 30 minutes later, at 10 a.m., and requested a ballot a second time. The teen was told he wasn't eligible to vote and again was offered the opportunity to register, notes show.

"He declined if he would not be able to vote today," the chief wrote.

Youngkin, the former CEO of global investment firm Carlyle Group, flipped the Virginia governorship to Republican control in a race that saw the highest turnout among the state's voters in recent history. 

The entrepreneur beat out Democrat and former governor Terry McAuliffe, marking a major political turnabout in a state that had been trending increasingly blue.

Youngkin and his wife Suzanne have four children, including one daughter and three sons.

Probably just a dumb kid, but who at 17 didn't know they couldn't vote?  Especially when their father was running for office.  And the defense of his is spinning so hard it may have it's own gravitational pull.

[BigPapaKain]

(11-06-2021, 08:48 AM)GMDino Wrote: They can't help themselves...

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/glenn-youngkins-underage-son-tried-to-vote-in-virginia-governors-election-officials-say/2870695/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand

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Probably just a dumb kid, but who at 17 didn't know they couldn't vote?  Especially when their father was running for office.  And the defense of his is spinning so hard it may have it's own gravitational pull.

People think the P in GoP stands for party. It stands for project. As in everything they accuse Dems of doing is shit they're guilty of.

[Dill]

(11-03-2021, 09:29 PM)jj22 Wrote: I'm interested in you finding video's of libs calling for mass murder and getting applauded by the crowd. You thinking Liberal groups and politicians would get away with any of this is troublesome. We are going to need people like you to quit turning a blind eye and face reality. Reality is Liberals could never get away with events like this. 

I'll bet anyone could find a prominent Democratic politician on Youtube convincing 50 million people that a presidential election was stolen.

Tell me jj, have you REALLY checked?

[*michaelsean*]

(11-07-2021, 09:35 PM)Dill Wrote: I'll bet anyone could find a prominent Democratic politician on Youtube convincing 50 million people that a presidential election was stolen.

Tell me jj, have you REALLY checked?

Well they didn’t have YouTube when Gore did so I guess not.

[Belsnickel]

(11-07-2021, 11:17 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Well they didn’t have YouTube when Gore list so I guess not.

We're not talking about a legitimate theft. We're talking about some Democrat with the prominence of Trump telling millions that Trump's win was a stolen election.

[jmccracky]

(11-07-2021, 11:17 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Well they didn’t have YouTube when Gore did so I guess not.

True, lol. Maybe they would have stormed the White House with nooses outside etc if they just had youtube. (I'm just being a smartass lol)

Btw....is noose plural for noose? Nooses wants to autocorrect. Is it neese? Haha

[GMDino]

(11-08-2021, 09:02 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: We're not talking about a legitimate theft. We're talking about some Democrat with the prominence of Trump telling millions that Trump's win was a stolen election.

[Dill]

(11-07-2021, 11:17 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Well they didn’t have YouTube when Gore did so I guess not.

LOL and no I phones.  That's why we don't have video of Dems storming the capital, and no record of Gore refusing to concede and vowing to run again, while Dems vow to primary Congressmen who don't agree the election was stolen. 

I was unaware that Gore convinced 50 million Dems an election was stolen. Apparently so was Gallup.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/2296/public-opinion-election-2000-stalemate-summary.aspx

By Nov. 19, 2000, the vast majority of Dems were willing to accept Bush as legitimate. 
How do the majority of Repubs view Biden 10 months into his first year?


I'm wondering if maybe there aren't some essential differences between these cases
--differences which mean we ought to be be paying very close attention to the Trump case right now.