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What to expect in the first 100 days
#21
(11-18-2016, 01:30 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, that would be why I said most. Mellow

Weirdo. Ninja

Sorry, since I've been a Trump supporter, I'm just used to being lumped with ALL.

dufus Ninja
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#22
(11-18-2016, 01:36 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Sorry, since I've been a Trump supporter, I'm just used to being lumped with ALL.

dufus Ninja

That's certainly not unique to being a Trump supporter. That's just the nature of politics. And religion for that matter. LOL
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR

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#23
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-wont-push-for-investigations-of-hillary-clinton-aide-says-1479826097

Quote:Donald Trump Won’t Push for Investigations of Hillary Clinton

Move is reversal of campaign call for rival to be probed, jailed


WASHINGTON—President-elect Donald Trump said he doesn’t “feel very strongly” about further investigations of onetime rival Hillary Clinton, backing away from fiery campaign rhetoric in which he pledged to appoint a prosecutor to probe her email server and foundation work.

“I don’t want to hurt the Clintons, I really don’t,” Mr. Trump said in an interview with theNew York Times on Tuesday. When pushed to say whether he had ruled out prosecution of Mrs. Clinton, he said: “It’s just not something that I feel very strongly about,” according to comments published by the Times.

In the interview, Mr. Trump also said he disavowed the so-called alt-right movement, which has been tied to racism and anti-Semitism.



“It’s not a group I want to energize. And if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why,” he said to the Times. Asked about a video that showed white nationalists gathered in D.C., he said: “I disavow and condemn them.”

In other comments, Mr. Trump said he has an “open mind” on whether to pull the U.S. out of an international climate accord.

On his business dealings, he said that when it comes to conflicts of interest, “the law’s totally on my side, the president can’t have a conflict of interest.” He added: “In theory I could run my business perfectly and then run the country perfectly.”

So there are four more things.

1) He won't do the thing he couldn't do anyway.

2) He has NOOOO idea what the alt-right is "energized" by him.  And he's going to look into it!

3) Climate change.

4) "In theory".  This should be fun.
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#24
This article was striking to me because it made me realize that if "rational Trump" was the one who was campaigning I could have gotten more behind his proposals.

But "real Trump" likes the cheering crowds too much and he knew that throwing everything out there was getting them riled up to cheer for him more.

Most of the sane people knew he couldn't/wouldn't do most of the things he said he would.  Or at least not at the extreme level he said he would. Of course some people, even on this board, tried to justify how a real wall could be built across the entire southern border of the US too.

I do wonder though if some of those more ardent supporters will turn on him when he doesn't make America white Great Again.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/17/donald-trump-promises-president/94028490/


Quote:President-elect Donald Trump is backing off of some of his more dramatic campaign promises, but – and don’t breathe a word of this to George H.W. Bush – neither his supporters nor his opponents seem very upset.


Studies show that most presidential candidates have honored most of their campaign promises. Once elected, however, everyone compromises, backtracks or fudges to some extent.
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Donald Trump's Big 10 foreign policy pledges -- will he stick to them?



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Before taking office, Trump signals campaign promises are negotiable



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Trump will be no exception, judging from his comments during the past week. He’s said he wouldn’t necessarily build a wall along every inch of the Mexican border; would focus deportation efforts not on all illegal immigrants, but on those with criminal records; and try to retain some redeeming facets of Obamacare.


For a variety reasons – including his supporters’ love of him, his opponents’ hatred of his proposals and a general acknowledgement that Trump is best taken seriously but not literally – this president may prove more immune than most to the political cost of broken promises.

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John McGlennon teaches government at the College of William & Mary: “Both sides are willing to give him more flexibility than a conventional candidate would be allowed.’’


More, certainly, than the 41st president. Bush failed to win re-election in 1992 after campaigning in 1988 on a promise — “Read my lips: No new taxes!’’ – he later felt compelled to break.


Possibly because few major candidates have run for president with such drastic proposals, many Trump opponents are relieved that he apparently won’t try to do everything he said he’d do. And many Trump supporters say they never reallyexpected him to do everything he said he’d do.


First, some Trump opponents.


“I prayed that he would have a change of heart, that he’d realize that some things he said he’d do he cannot do,’’ such as vaporize the Affordable Care Act, says Angelina Iles, a retired school employee who lives in Pineville, La., and voted for Hillary Clinton.


With that prayer seemingly answered, she has another: “That he’s backing off because he’s learned that the bullying attitude he had in the campaign won’t work once he’s in office.’’


After Trump passed 270 electoral votes on Election Night, David Bugh of Lancaster, Ohio, a pastor and small business owner, says he was afraid. But given signs of what he calls Trump’s “moderation,’’ says “I’m a little less pessimistic now.’’


Even a diehard Never-Trumper like Democrat Rich Langan of Ashwaubenon, Wis., a retired police officer, says he’s trying to keep an open mind: “I’ll give him six months.’’


As for the Trump supporters.


Despite some fiery campaign rhetoric, “once he’s in office he’ll soften up on pretty much everything,’’ says Barry Fixler, who last year opened his own local Trump headquarters in Bardonia, N.Y.


And that’s fine with Fixler, a jeweler. “In his heart, Trump loves people. He won’t do anything to drastically affect people,’’ such as non-criminal illegal immigrants. “He’s not going to throw out children (of illegal immigrants). He’s just going after the criminals and ISIS.’’


Many Trump voters say their man’s opponents were spooked by his campaign promises because they didn’t understand how he works.
Gene Dunn is a longtime Trump admirer who took his son out of school to attend Trump’s presidential campaign announcement at Trump Tower. Trump’s campaign promises were “standard The Art of the Deal practice,’’ he says, referring to Trump’s 1987 best seller. “Asking for the whole enchilada, but settling for what’s reasonable. And all sides can claim victory.’’


A. D. Amar, an Indian immigrant and business professor who lives in Warren, N.J., agrees that many of Trump’s campaign promises were really opening gambits: “That is Trump’s style as a negotiator. He throws the extreme negative outcome at his opponents. This brings them to the table, and then whatever they get after the negotiation is better than what Trump originally threw at them.’’


Here’s how President-elect Trump has been rewriting candidate Trump:
  • Some elements of the Affordable Care Act, which he’d promised to repeal and replace, are worth keeping. He cited provisions requiring coverage of pre-existing medical conditions and allowing children to remain on parents’ plans until they turn 26. "I like those very much," Trump told The Wall Street Journal.
  • Some illegal immigrants are “terrific people,” and his priorities are 1) securing the border and 2) deporting criminals. The number of all illegal immigrants is around 11 million; criminals in that group number anywhere between 800,000 and several million.  
  • Some sections of the “big beautiful wall’’ he’s vowed to build along the border might actually look more like fencing.
If and when Americans try to pin candidate Trump’s promises to President Trump, they will have their work cut out for them, says John Baick, who teaches American political history at Western New England University in Springfield, Mass.


One problem is sheer volume – the “many, many promises made on the campaign trail,’’ says Baick. “There is almost certainly no candidate who has produced more verbiage, in person and in digital form, than Donald Trump.’’



Another is the lack of specifics. Trump, Baick says, “can claim that he has kept many simply by taking symbolic steps.’’ For instance, it may be enough if Trump starts to build the wall, just as John F. Kennedy gets credit for starting a man-on-the-moon program that was not scheduled for completion until after what would have been his second term.
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#25
So now President Elect Trump has selected a woman who has no experience in education other than wanting vouchers to head the department of education...which I suppose could his back door way of having it do nothing for the foreseeable future.

And he's suggesting a neurosurgeon to run the department of Housing and Urban Development.

She's a political insider so there goes that theory.

Anyone have any idea what he's doing?
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#26
(11-25-2016, 11:39 AM)GMDino Wrote: So now President Elect Trump has selected a woman who has no experience in education other than wanting vouchers to head the department of education...which I suppose could his back door way of having it do nothing for the foreseeable future.

And he's suggesting a neurosurgeon to run the department of Housing and Urban Development.

She's a political insider so there goes that theory.

Anyone have any idea what he's doing?

He is discrediting federal agencies by placing incompetent and/or belligerent people in charge of them. Similar things were done by Reagan and the two Bush admins. This is in line with the conservative thinking that 'the federal government is too big' and 'government should only help people by leaving them alone'.
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#27
(11-25-2016, 11:47 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: He is discrediting federal agencies by placing incompetent and/or belligerent people in charge of them. Similar things were done by Reagan and the two Bush admins. This is in line with the conservative thinking that 'the federal government is too big' and 'government should only help people by leaving them alone'.

That's what it seems like.  Will it blow up on him like it did with Bush and "Heck of a job Brownie" I wonder?

I almost hope that's his plan and its not simply he's incompetent at picking people who know how to do their jobs.
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#28
(11-23-2016, 12:55 PM)GMDino Wrote: Of course some people, even on this board, tried to justify how a real wall could be built across the entire southern border of the US too.

I still think it's possible, by moving all prisons, some military bases, pharmaceutical factories, research facilities, casinos, ect... to the border.
All those places already have high security and they could be given incentives to build there.
#29
(11-25-2016, 12:27 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I still think it's possible, by moving all prisons, some military bases, pharmaceutical factories, research facilities, casinos, ect... to the border.
All those places already have high security and they could be given incentives to build there.

Hilarious
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#30
(11-25-2016, 12:37 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: Hilarious
It's ok to be jealous of my yuge plans !
I'm the bigly of the bigliest and shall help Trumptopia span the border !
Ninja

Seriously though.... stop laughing at me.
You'll crush my fragile ego and I won't be able to service the wife, tonight.
That means I'll have to call Fred.
#31
(11-23-2016, 12:55 PM)GMDino Wrote: This article was striking to me because it made me realize that if "rational Trump" was the one who was campaigning I could have gotten more behind his proposals.

But "real Trump" likes the cheering crowds too much and he knew that throwing everything out there was getting them riled up to cheer for him more.

Most of the sane people knew he couldn't/wouldn't do most of the things he said he would.  Or at least not at the extreme level he said he would.  Of course some people, even on this board, tried to justify how a real wall could be built across the entire southern border of the US too.

I do wonder though if some of those more ardent supporters will turn on him when he doesn't make America white Great Again.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/17/donald-trump-promises-president/94028490/

Don't lie, you would've never gotten behind him.

The Wall? I wouldn't rule out the wall completely yet, like you did his chances at being the next POTUS.

He built a wall in Scotland and sent the locals the bill. So he's got practice at this.
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#32
(11-25-2016, 01:11 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Don't lie, you would've never gotten behind him.

The Wall? I wouldn't rule out the wall completely yet, like you did his chances at being the next POTUS.

He built a wall in Scotland and sent the locals the bill. So he's got practice at this.

I said if he had been rational.  I guess we'll never know.

As to the wall I'm glad some people are still delusional about it.  Even Trump has backed off from it.
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#33
Dr. Carson says he can handle HUD with no problem because, hey, it ain't brain surgery.

Seriously.   Mellow

http://www.newshounds.us/dr_ben_carson_running_hud_would_be_a_cinch_for_a_guy_like_me_112416


Quote:Dr. Ben Carson: Running HUD Would Be A Cinch For A Guy Like Me!



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Dr. Ben Carson doubled down on his claim that having zero experience in housing policy is any impediment to his serving as Secretary of the Housing And Urban Development Department. In addition to his “qualification” that he “spent a lot of time” in the “inner city,” Carson now claimed the job would be a cinch because he’s a neurosurgeon.

You may recall that earlier in the week, Carson argued on Fox that his time spent in the inner city made him qualified to run HUD:

Quote:CARSON: Well, I know that I grew up in the inner city and have spent a lot of time there and have dealt with a lot of patients from that area, and recognize that we can not have a strong nation if we have weak inner cities, and we have to get beyond the promises and start really doing something. And also, the amount of corruption and graft and things that have - shell games that are played, we need to get rid of all that stuff and start operating things in an efficient and effective way.

Don’t you wonder if Carson even knows that HUD does a lot of work in rural areas? Apparently Fox host Neil Cavuto didn’t because he didn’t mention it when those ridiculous statements were made on his show.

Nor did guest host Sandra Smith when Carson appeared on The Kelly File the next night. Smith was almost giddy as she announced that Carson’s possible appointment to HUD had been trending on Twitter.

Carson confirmed that he’s considering taking the job. And he thinks his career as a brain surgeon makes him fully capable of running a department that, according to Smith has a budget of nearly $50 billion and 8,400 employees:

Quote:CARSON: You know, the fact of the matter is every job is very important but in terms of complexity, I can guarantee you that very little of it comes very close to neurosurgery, and particularly complex neurosurgery, and these things can easily be acquired and you can put people around you who know all the little details about something that happened 56 years ago.
Now that’s not important. What’s important is being able to take the information and process it and come up with wise solutions that solve problems. That’s what this is going to be about. It’s gonna be very different from your typical administration because Donald Trump, as a businessman, believes very much, like surgeons do, you take the evidence and you make your decisions based on the evidence, not on the ideology.

Smith smiled and nodded as if it was terrific news that a guy who could be managing a major federal department thought the job was just "little details."
Instead of challenging Carson’s cavalier arrogance, Smith helped promote it. She said, “Critics say … he doesn’t have the experience to do this. What do you say back to them?” It’s a common Fox News trick: A host feigns balance by mentioning the non-Republican side, then quickly gives more emphasis to the opinion already being favorably showcased.

Sure enough, Carson got more unchallenged time to promote his completely unqualified candidacy:

Quote:CARSON: I would say, look at all the people in Washington who’ve had the experience. What a fine job they’ve done. I guess that’s why Donald Trump got elected. That’s what I would say to them.

Smith laughed appreciatively. “Fair enough,” she said, smiling.

Tell you what, Sandra: Next time you need your car fixed or need a root canal, why don’t you just have Ben Carson handle it? After all, nothing can be more complex than neurosurgery and he can get someone to give him the “evidence” he needs to take care of it.


Video is at the link.
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#34
Also expect everyone else to do the work while he cashes in.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-intelligence-briefings-national-homeland-security-2016-11


Quote:President-elect Donald Trump reportedly turned away the intelligence officials responsible for getting him up to speed on US national security concerns and world affairs, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday night.


Trump, who has been meeting with domestic and international dignitaries in the two weeks since he won the election, has only received two classified intelligence briefings according to the Post, while Vice President-elect Mike Pence reportedly participated in the meetings almost every day.

Post reporters Greg Miller and Adam Entous wrote that Trump got his first classified briefing days after the election, and a second one on Tuesday, before heading to Florida for Thanksgiving.


The intelligence briefing is a summary of feedback from the 16 US intelligence agencies and a roundup of the CIA's secret international operations.


Sources within Trump's transition team who were cited by the Post suggested that, separate from the daily briefings, Trump deems choosing people for national security positions within his administration a priority.


The report follows concerns from within Washington that the president-elect — who has never held public office before — is unprepared for the gravity of daily Oval Office duties.


The Obama administration began nudging the Trump transition team about one such concern on Tuesday, warning that the incoming administration should pay close attention to North Korea, which has grown increasingly belligerent toward the US under its leader, Kim Jong-un.


One unnamed official told the Post "Trump has a lot of catching up to do," while David Priess, a former CIA officer who was on George W. Bush's daily briefing team, said Trump's absence from the meetings "is not unprecedented over the decades-long scope of these briefings."


Since his major upset victory in the November 8 election, Trump appears to have generated considerable fanfare for the numerous meetings he has had with people vying to work for him, according to a New York Times report published Tuesday.


The newspaper noted that Trump preferred meeting candidates at his Bedminster, New Jersey, estate "because the images of him receiving potential cabinet appointees at the front door of the clubhouse resembled 10 Downing Street in London."


In the days following the election, Trump has summoned journalists and top brass from five major news networks for a brutal meeting at Trump Towerdemanded apologies from the cast of a Broadway musicalrailed against "Saturday Night Live," and sat down for an extensive interview with The New York Times.


Uneasiness over Trump's ability to handle national security affairs reached unprecedented levels after the Republican National Convention. Dozens of top GOP national security officials signed a letter warning that Trump could be "the most reckless president in American history."


Read The Washington Post's full story here »
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#35
(11-25-2016, 11:50 AM)GMDino Wrote: That's what it seems like.  Will it blow up on him like it did with Bush and "Heck of a job Brownie" I wonder?

I almost hope that's his plan and its not simply he's incompetent at picking people who know how to do their jobs.

I don't know if you ever watched the "X-files" back in the 90's. If you did then you recall the character Deputy Director Kersh whose sole purpose in being appointed was to hinder and misdirect certain FBI activities. This is the real life version of that.

It is not something you can control or cry out against. It is just what is going happen. Done deal.

To some degree, there will be blowback. But it will be countered with propaganda broadcasts.

Somewhere in the universe, Nikita Khrushchev is laughing his ass off remembering Nixon's comment in the "Kitchen Debate"!
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#36
(11-26-2016, 12:05 PM)GMDino Wrote: Dr. Carson says he can handle HUD with no problem because, hey, it ain't brain surgery.

Seriously.   Mellow

http://www.newshounds.us/dr_ben_carson_running_hud_would_be_a_cinch_for_a_guy_like_me_112416




Video is at the link.
This will tell you how desperate for attention Carson is.
He visited my little podunk town, 2-3 weeks ago.


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#37
(11-26-2016, 12:05 PM)GMDino Wrote: Dr. Carson says he can handle HUD with no problem because, hey, it ain't brain surgery.

Seriously.   Mellow

http://www.newshounds.us/dr_ben_carson_running_hud_would_be_a_cinch_for_a_guy_like_me_112416




Video is at the link.

"Trump picks El Chapo to Run DEA" - Andy Borowitz


Quote:In an official statement, Trump said that El Chapo’s “tremendous success in the private sector” showed that he has what it takes to “shake things up” at the D.E.A.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-picks-el-chapo-to-run-d-e-a
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#38
http://usuncut.com/politics/trump-goldman-steven-mnuchin/


Quote:Trump said Goldman Sachs ‘robbed our working class.’ He just picked a Goldman banker to run the economy.
Zach Cartwright | November 29, 2016



Steven Mnuchin — a 17-year veteran from Goldman Sachs — was just appointed Secretary of the Treasury. That shouldn’t sit well for working people.

President-elect Donald Trump continues to betray the populist, drain-the-swamp rhetoric that propelled him into office with each new cabinet appointment. Whoever runs the U.S. Department of the Treasury arguably has more sway over the United States — and even the global economy — than even the president himself. As Mnuchin’s cabinet appointment appears to be on track for an official announcement Wednesday, his record should be closely examined, particularly in comparison to the populist veneer Trump constructed for himself during the course of his presidential campaign.

In a 2-minute campaign ad released just before the election, Trump’s voice is heard blasting “the political establishment,” as images of stern-faced, blue-collar workers are shown alongside the faces of public figures like Hillary Clinton, and more notably, Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein. Shortly after the 1-minute mark of the ad, Blankfein is shown giving a speech at the Clinton Global Initiative, as Trump blasts the “handful of large corporations” benefiting from the largesse of the federal government:

Mnuchin is the epitome of Wall Street insider, having been raised as the son of a Goldman Sachs partner and working for the company between 1985 and 2002. Even in spite of Wall Street’s bad reputation with blue-collar America following the global financial crash of 2008, Mnuchin proudly embraces his colleagues in the financial sector.

“I wouldn’t in any way say I distanced myself from Wall Street,” Mnuchin told the New York Times. “I have very good friends on Wall Street.”

As a banker, Mnuchin’s record shows he has a rather crass attitude towards salt-of-the-earth Americans, having presided over banks that aggressively foreclosed on homeowners in the wake of the financial crisis and was caught discriminating against black and latino mortgage applicants. A lawsuit filed by two California housing advocacy groups named CIT Group, the company that recently bought Mnuchin’s OneWest bank, in which Mnuchin himself owns $100 million in stock, according to the Washington Post.

“The bank has no significant branch presence in communities of color,” stated Kevin Stein, who is the deputy director of the California Reinvestment Coalition. “Its home loans to borrowers and communities of color are low in absolute terms, low compared to its peer banks, and low when compared to what one would expect.”

When Mnuchin ran OneWest bank, he oversaw the foreclosure of 36,000 homeowners. One of those homeowners was Leslie Parks, who, in 2009, returned to her Minneapolis home in the midst of a blizzard to find that her locks had been changed in her absence. Stein referred to OneWest Bank as a “foreclosure machine.”

Mnuchin also made off with a $3.2 million windfall he secured as a result of Bernie Madoff’s infamous Ponzi scheme, which defrauded investors out of billions. Financial enforcers allowed Mnuchin to keep his ill-gotten gains, as he and his brother were able to pull out of the Ponzi scheme before it fell apart. Lawsuits by investors defrauded by Madoff to recoup that money were unsuccessful due to statute of limitation loopholes.
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#39
I figured this falls under first 100 days:

I didn't realize the transportation pick was Mitch McConnell's wife.

Billionaires and establishment Republicans. The swamp sure is being drained.
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(11-30-2016, 02:43 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I figured this falls under first 100 days:

I didn't realize the transportation pick was Mitch McConnell's wife.

Billionaires and establishment Republicans. The swamp sure is being drained.

At least she has some experience for the post as an undersecretary or some such thing.
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