Nunes facing ethics investigation regarding role in Biden Investigations

[CJD]

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/23/democrat-says-devin-nunes-investigation-likely-073109

Quote:CNN reported late Friday that an associate of Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal lawyer, has information on meetings Nunes allegedly had with former Ukrainian prosecutor general Victor Shokin.

The CNN report says that Lev Parnas, according to his attorney, put Nunes in touch with Shokin to help him gather damaging information on former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter's dealings with Ukraine.

I doubt anything comes of this, but it's definitely interesting that the guy who was so resolute in downplaying the impeachment in his questions and opening statements each day may have played a role in investigating the Bidens (if you're inclined to believe indicted ne're-do-wells who are looking for a plea deal.)

Just like the Michael Cohen accusations of Trump, these will likely slide off Nunes' back with the justification of "You can't trust a criminal!" but it's still pretty funny. I'm looking forward to seeing how this story develops.

[fredtoast]

Nunes said he was taking CNN to court over this story.

[Au165]

(11-25-2019, 12:45 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Nunes said he was taking CNN to court over this story.

Awesome, he is walking into his on perjury trap!

[CJD]

(11-25-2019, 12:45 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Nunes said he was taking CNN to court over this story.

Nunes took a twitter account to court that was pretending to be his cow.

So this is not surprising haha.

[GMDino]

Sorry for adding this here but might as well add another investigation into someone in the Trump orbit.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-subpoenas-seek-information-on-giulianis-consulting-business-11574712722

Quote:Nov. 25, 2019 3:12 pm ET

Subpoenas issued to people with ties to President Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and his associates indicate a broad federal investigation into possible money laundering, obstruction of justice and campaign-finance violations, and suggest that prosecutors are looking closely at the work of Mr. Giuliani himself, according to people familiar with the matter.


In recent weeks, prosecutors have sent subpoenas and other requests to potential witnesses seeking records and information related to Mr. Giuliani and two of his associates, according to the people. The investigation, led by the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, has already led to campaign-finance charges against the associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman.


The subpoenas offer the clearest indication yet that federal prosecutors are examining Mr. Giuliani’s consulting work. Among the entities named in the subpoenas are Giuliani Partners, a security-consulting firm founded by Mr. Giuliani in 2002 that had multiple foreign clients, including a city in Ukraine. The subpoenas also sought information on a company co-founded by Mr. Parnas that paid Mr. Giuliani for business and legal advice.


Mr. Giuliani said in an interview that he hadn’t been contacted by prosecutors and has denied wrongdoing.


Subpoenas described to The Wall Street Journal listed more than a half dozen potential charges under consideration: obstruction of justice, money laundering, conspiracy to defraud the United States, making false statements to the federal government, serving as an agent of a foreign government without registering with the Justice Department, donating funds from foreign nationals, making contributions in the name of another person or allowing someone else to use one’s name to make a contribution, along with mail fraud and wire fraud.


Private Photos of Indicted Donor Depict Ties to Trump, Giuliani
Dating back to 2015, the private Instagram account of Lev Parnas, a Ukrainian-American indicted for illegal campaign donations, appears to show VIP access to President Trump and a close relationship with Rudy Giuliani. WSJ’s Shelby Holliday reports. Photo illustration: Adele Morgan


Messrs. Parnas and Fruman, both Florida businessmen and U.S. citizens born in former Soviet republics, have pleaded not guilty. A lawyer for Mr. Parnas didn’t respond to a request for comment; a lawyer for Mr. Fruman didn’t immediately comment.
Investigators have sought information from prospective witnesses about Messrs. Parnas’s and Fruman’s political and business activities, and how they intersected with the Trump administration and Mr. Giuliani’s work, according to the people familiar with the investigation.


The subpoenas also sought materials related to America First Action and America First Policies, two pro-Trump groups. Kelly Sadler, a spokeswoman for the groups, said the organizations contacted the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office last month and offered to cooperate. She said neither group received a subpoena.


Prosecutors alleged in the indictment last month that Messrs. Fruman and Parnas concealed the true source of a $325,000 donation to America First Action by listing it as a gift from an energy company they had recently founded. The super PAC said it has placed the contribution into a segregated bank account.


Mr. Giuliani in an interview with the Journal on Sunday said that when clients have asked him to do something related to the Trump administration, he has referred them to registered lobbyists. He also denied any business dealings in Ukraine since he began serving as Mr. Trump’s lawyer in April 2018.

“All they have to do is come and ask me,” he said of investigators. “There’s obviously a concerted effort to spread as many lies about me as possible, to destroy my reputation so that I’m not credible when I continue to reveal all of the massive evidence of criminality by the Bidens.”


Messrs. Giuliani and Trump have pressed Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, now a Democratic presidential candidate, and his son, Hunter Biden. They allege it was corrupt for the younger Biden to serve on the board of Burisma Group, a Ukrainian gas company, while his father as vice president was spearheading an anticorruption effort in the country. The Bidens have denied wrongdoing.  The younger Mr. Biden has said he used “poor judgment” when he decided to join the board, but said he did nothing improper.


Messrs. Parnas and Fruman assisted Mr. Giuliani in his push for investigations in Ukraine, efforts that at times aligned with business opportunities sought by the two men, the Journal has previously reported, citing people familiar with the matter.


Those overlapping concerns could be of import to investigators, as they consider how Messrs. Fruman and Parnas gained access to Mr. 
Trump’s inner circles. At least two of the people who received subpoenas had been asked by Mr. Parnas to invest in Fraud Guarantee—a fraud-insurance company he helped set up in Florida—or to help fund a promised $500,000 payment to Mr. Giuliani, who said he provided business and legal advice to the company, people familiar with Mr. Parnas’s requests said.


A representative for one of those people, a businessman in Florida, said the man had declined to provide any money. The other person, also a Florida businessman, did invest in Fraud Guarantee after Mr. Parnas told him his plan was to secure a $20 million federal grant, according to one of the businessman’s associates. The Journal couldn’t determine what the grant would fund.

Mr. Giuliani said Sunday: “I had no knowledge of a grant, and it seemed to me they were at a premature position to be looking for a grant.”


Mr. Parnas often touted the firm’s connection with Mr. Giuliani to potential investors, the Journal has previously reported citing people familiar with the matter.


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The payment to Mr. Giuliani was ultimately funded by Charles Gucciardo, a personal injury lawyer, who paid Mr. Giuliani $500,000 in two installments last fall, according to Mr. Giuliani. In exchange, Mr. Gucciardo received a stake in the company, his attorney said. His attorney said Mr. Gucciardo believed Fraud Guarantee had “tremendous potential” because Mr. Giuliani “was going to be behind, alongside, and the face of the company.”



Some of the subpoenas sought materials relating to Fraud Guarantee and David Correia, who co-founded Fraud Guarantee with Mr. Parnas. Mr. Correia was also charged in the October indictment with one count of participating in a conspiracy to conceal the origins of campaign contributions from overseas donors. A lawyer for Mr. Correia, who pleaded not guilty, didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

After starting the company in 2013, the men hired Jack Burkman, a Washington lobbyist, to help them obtain federal money, Mr. Burkman said. Messrs. Parnas and Correia sought to pitch the company as a tool for the Obama administration in its pushes for small-business investment and consumer protection, according to a person with whom Mr. Parnas discussed the grant. Fraud Guarantee billed itself as an insurer for investors against fraud, though it has never had any clients.

Mr. Burkman in an interview said he met Mr. Parnas in 2012 and assisted the company with an application for a federal grant based on “computer innovation in the role of finance.” Mr. Burkman said he filed the application in 2013 or 2014 but declined to discuss the matter in detail, citing attorney-client privilege. He denied lobbying for the company.


Mr. Parnas told one potential investor in 2014 that he was headed to Washington to meet with Michelle Obama, then the first lady. No meeting occurred, according to a former White House official. Fraud Guarantee never received a federal grant.

Maybe should go in the impeachment thread?  Rudy was working on the orders of Trump...right?

[BakertheBeast]

That would explain why Nunes had that sick look on his face like he was about to throw up during the hearings. He was making up any dumbash excuse to get the impeachment stopped cause he is dirty too.

[GMDino]

(11-26-2019, 06:43 AM)BakertheBeast Wrote: That would explain why Nunes had that sick look on his face like he was about to throw up during the hearings. He was making up any dumbash excuse to get the impeachment stopped cause he is dirty too.

There will be the inevitable "both sides" argument along anytime now, but if the GOP had something on the Democrats they would have launched the investigation by now (concerning Russia).

Remember Nunes had to recuse himself from an earlier investigation because #hegotcaught running to the White House for and with info on it.

[hollodero]

Since Nunes met Viktor Schokin in Vienna, Lev Parnas and his associate were headed to Vienna, and Giuliani meets disgraced Ukrainian oligarch Dmitri Firtasch in Vienna, as a Viennese I want to make clear that I have not met any of these unfine gentlemen and that I also do not possess any dirt on Biden. I'd be willing to testify to Congress on that. So don't come here to meet me, shady Trump buddies, in fact don't come here at all. You're staining our beautiful city.

[jj22]

I'm not sure anyone takes Nunes seriously anymore.

Trump supporters are furious with him for admitting in his investigation the Dossier didn't start the FBI investigation (one of their favorite lies they've spread). He really blew it for them.

[hollodero]

(11-26-2019, 04:28 PM)jj22 Wrote: I'm not sure anyone takes Nunes seriously anymore.

Trump supporters are furious with him for admitting in his investigation the Dossier didn't start the FBI investigation (one of their favorite lies they've spread). He really blew it for them.

Ah, but they still roll with that line anyways. He only "blew it" in the eyes of those folk that knew it was a BS line from the beginning.

I'm still wondering how his "the Dems wanted nude pictures of Trump" attack did not go viral already.

[NATI BENGALS]

(11-26-2019, 04:28 PM)jj22 Wrote: I'm not sure anyone takes Nunes seriously anymore.

Trump supporters are furious with him for admitting in his investigation the Dossier didn't start the FBI investigation (one of their favorite lies they've spread). He really blew it for them.

I dont know if you noticed... He was the center piece of a united party of Republicans trying to make a mockery of hearings many in this country actual care about.

Dont downplay this traitor piece of shit weirdo.

[BakertheBeast]

Trump has done two "good" things since he has been in office.

1) By his actions and words have exposed what a bunch of gutless, selfish and embarrassing group that most of these Republican congressmen are.  How anyone votes for these pathetic stooges is amazing.

2) Trump signed a bill making animal abuse a felony. As a dog lover I applaud him for that even though he wants nothing to do with animals and his inbred sons like to kill animals.