Your biggest issue with the Trump administration

[NATI BENGALS]

(05-29-2018, 06:28 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I see a lot of folks pointing to personal traits they do not like, but many have focused on the actual issues. Also, to be fair, this thread is about what you do not like about the Trump Admin, so there should be a negative tone. It's the "good news" threads that folks bring up non-related negative issues, that shows true signs of TDS.

I will say that if I were to point to what I feel is his most negative personal trait; it would be his overly narcissistic nature. I must say I was not a fan of his Memorial Day tweet where he trivialized the memory of the fallen by saying how happy they would be about his Administration's  accomplishments. 

Wow.

I came here to voice my displeasure about a draft dodging ass clown praising himself on Memorial day and using his platform to divide the country. 

You beat me to it.

Now if you and a large portion of other Trumpets would actually comprehend the feces he is smearing on the face of our country we could get somewhere.

[Shake n Blake]

I guess my only real beef so far is his Twitter. I get that he uses it as a platform to spread good news that the left media won't acknowledge, but he also has a tendency to provide more ammo with his words. So he's unwittingly defeating the purpose of him having the account in the first place. Not that the media would stop with their 24-7 assault, but it would provide a little less fuel if he'd just delete the account.

[NATI BENGALS]

(05-30-2018, 12:41 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I guess my only real beef so far is his Twitter. I get that he uses it as a platform to spread good news that the left media won't acknowledge, but he also has a tendency to provide more ammo with his words. So he's unwittingly defeating the purpose of him having the account in the first place. Not that the media would stop with their 24-7 assault, but it would provide a little less fuel if he'd just delete the account.

Awe poor wittle twump

Hell its been almost 24 hours since the guy who ran on lock her up made baseless lies about Mueller meddling in our elections. Almost 48 hours since he praised himself on Memorial day and over 72 since a white house adviser and daughter to the president received something of substance from the government of a country he is negotiating with.

The assault is crazy. And its for tiny little stuff like that. As a country we should just hold our nose while bending over and gladly get f'd in the a like a pornstar taking hush money

[Shake n Blake]

(05-30-2018, 08:13 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Awe poor wittle twump

Hell its been almost 24 hours since the guy who ran on lock her up made baseless lies about Mueller meddling in our elections. Almost 48 hours since he praised himself on Memorial day and over 72 since a white house adviser and daughter to the president received something of substance from the government of a country he is negotiating with.

The assault is crazy. And its for tiny little stuff like that. As a country we should just hold our nose while bending over and gladly get f'd in the a like a pornstar taking hush money

Yeah it's always legitimate news about Trump. Like how awful he is for wearing a bath robe. Or what he eats for dinner. Or that he hates black folks for going to opening of a black history museum. There totally hasn't been stories such as these 24-7 since 2016:

https://www.crtv.com/video/9-most-absurd-lies-the-media-told-about-trump-in-2017--white-house-brief

[fredtoast]

(05-30-2018, 02:15 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Yeah it's always legitimate news about Trump. Like how awful he is for wearing a bath robe. Or what he eats for dinner. Or that he hates black folks for going to opening of a black history museum. There totally hasn't been stories such as these 24-7 since 2016:

https://www.crtv.com/video/9-most-absurd-lies-the-media-told-about-trump-in-2017--white-house-brief

That is pretty funny.  The claim about "no go zones" in Sweden was proven to be a lie, and many facts in the dossier have been proven true.

Since when is J.K. Rolwing a member of the "media"?

"Fishgate" was not mentioned by media, just Facebook.

And, finally, the book is still out on Trumps dementia.

[NATI BENGALS]

(05-30-2018, 02:15 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Yeah it's always legitimate news about Trump. Like how awful he is for wearing a bath robe. Or what he eats for dinner. Or that he hates black folks for going to opening of a black history museum. There totally hasn't been stories such as these 24-7 since 2016:

https://www.crtv.com/video/9-most-absurd-lies-the-media-told-about-trump-in-2017--white-house-brief

Right. Just crazy made up bullshit.

Like having a meeting with kim kardashian at the white house. What kind of idiots do they think we are? Nobody would believe our president brought in some reality tv show drama queen for an oval office meeting. Its not like her bat shit crazy husband ever offered public praise of Trump. And there are actual subject matter experts out there who know more about a topic than seeing a couple tweets. 

Gtfo with the made up Trump assaults. Poor guy does nothing to deserve the negativity.

[JustWinBaby]

(05-29-2018, 04:35 PM)Dill Wrote: JustWin! Haven't seen you around since your last demonstration of "independent objectivity"--that was regarding US racial/voting history, wasn't it?

Monitoring your impressions and then sharing them with the forum seems a sure way to roll back "Trump Derangement Syndrome," which appears to strike mainly voters who resist the debasement of civil discourse and the violation of political norms which have operated since the founding of this country.  Trump has insulted a ton of women/reporters, fired an FBI director conducting an investigation into his campaign, falsely claimed the former president wiretapped him, paid off a porn star from a Russian-funded slush fund, and blown up the Paris Agreement, TPP, the Iran Deal--and we are still here!  That means everything is alright. Right? Tariffs on China are back this week. NK summit was off but now its on again. The office will change him . . . lol.

LOL....I'll leave it at that.  I quit posting here for the most part because....well, I can't say without getting banned.  But congrats on chasing away literally every poster that isn't far left.  Science, facts....no place here.   There's no one left here with an opinion worth a shit.  And you know that, just don't burst the bubble.

[JustWinBaby]

(05-29-2018, 08:55 PM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: My issue with Donald Trump is that he is a Democrat.

Way too on the nose.

Trump is a classic 90's / early 00's Democrat.  BUT I think he's really just a dumbass.  Populism and protectionism is totally a 90/00's democratic platform.

Which is why I just laugh so much over all this.  Repubs elected a guy they hate, and Dems bash a guy they love.  And that's because the useful idiots have taken over American politics.

[Bengalzona]

Why is it that EVERY time I have to stand in line at the supermarket, every tabloid newspaper cover I glance at (the National Enquirer, the National Examiner, the Globe, etc.) features a story about how great Trump is and base accusations about Hillary Clinton (usually next to a headline about someone seeing Jesus' face in a cow turd or something similar)... yet Trump people are constantly trying to persuade me about the "liberal hack media" and the "deep state"?

Apparently, I'm not the only one who has noticed this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/trump-national-enquirer-american-media.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/president-donald-trump-relationship-national-inquirer-mika-brzezinski-2017-6

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/09/is-the-national-enquirer-in-bed-with-donald-trump

https://boingboing.net/2018/05/23/why-donald-trump-is-the-tabloi.html

[Belsnickel]

(05-31-2018, 05:46 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Way too on the nose.

Trump is a classic 90's / early 00's Democrat.  BUT I think he's really just a dumbass.  Populism and protectionism is totally a 90/00's democratic platform.

Which is why I just laugh so much over all this.  Repubs elected a guy they hate, and Dems bash a guy they love.  And that's because the useful idiots have taken over American politics.

The problem with this, the assertion of the Dems loving the guy, is that there is a movement on the left away from the neoliberalism of the recent Democratic party. We are seeing a resurgence of social liberalism among Millennial Democrats, which is a return to the FDR ways of the party. I'll grant you that many of the party leadership isn't in the same boat, but when you attach the neoliberalist tendencies to the incompetence and prejudiced fear mongering, it is a perfect storm of things for Millennials, which are about to be if not already the largest voting bloc and majority liberal, to dislike.

[hollodero]

(05-31-2018, 05:46 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: BUT I think he's really just a dumbass.  Populism and protectionism is totally a 90/00's democratic platform.

Not in the way Trump does it. You can't seriously believe Trump would have won the democratic primaries, now or in the 2000's, with his traits and words.

Also, him being a dumbass is reason enough to be opposed to him. You don't have to be a democrat - or anything really - for that.

[Belsnickel]

(05-31-2018, 10:37 AM)hollodero Wrote: Not in the way Trump does it. You can't seriously believe Trump would have won the democratic primaries, now or in the 2000's, with his traits and words.

Also, him being a dumbass is reason enough to be opposed to him. You don't have to be a democrat - or anything really - for that.

Well, there is also the way his rhetoric doesn't match his policy. He talks the populist talk, then continues elitist policies.

[Bengalzona]

(05-31-2018, 10:43 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, there is also the way his rhetoric doesn't match his policy. He talks the populist talk, then continues elitist policies.

Sorry, but I find that his agenda to date has been completely in line with other Republican agendas and rhetoric. The effort of some Republicans to try and distance themselves from him by calling him a Democrat when he has clearing been serving the same right wing ideologies is absurd, IMO.

[Belsnickel]

(05-31-2018, 10:49 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: Sorry, but I find that his agenda to date has been completely in line with other Republican agendas and rhetoric. The effort of some Republicans to try and distance themselves from him by calling him a Democrat when he has clearing been serving the same right wing ideologies is absurd, IMO.

That was kind of my point.

[hollodero]

(05-31-2018, 10:43 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, there is also the way his rhetoric doesn't match his policy. He talks the populist talk, then continues elitist policies.

Ha well, that's maybe the one thing one could also say about the "left" side. Quite true in Europe at least - Genosse der Bosse and such. 

That the "forgotten man" still believes Trump's policies are benefitting him and his family though is truely remarkable. Our electorate is usually quicker in realizing those things.


This tax reform alone... the forgotten man sure has to be super rich and own lots of real estate.

Quote:CBO stated that lower income groups will incur costs, while higher income groups will receive benefits

Quote:The top 5% (income over $307,900) would receive 43% of the benefit in 2018, 47% in 2025, and 99% in 2027.

99%. And a trickle down. With exploding national debt. How does that still get believed.

[Belsnickel]

(05-31-2018, 11:04 AM)hollodero Wrote: Ha well, that's maybe the one thing one could also say about the "left" side. Quite true in Europe at least - Genosse der Bosse and such. 

That the "forgotten man" still believes Trump's policies are benefitting him and his family though is truely remarkable. Our electorate is usually quicker in realizing those things.

This tax reform alone... the forgotten man sure has to be super rich and own lots of real estate.

99%. And a trickle down. With exploding national debt. How does that still get believed.

Because there are groups and individuals that spend tons of money convincing people that this is all for the benefit of the little guy. So they spend lots of money lying and relying on the laziness of people to not do their own research.

[hollodero]

(05-31-2018, 11:09 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Because there are groups and individuals that spend tons of money convincing people that this is all for the benefit of the little guy. So they spend lots of money lying and relying on the laziness of people to not do their own research.

Yeah that's probably part of it. I still also blame the binary political system. People have to believe because the alternative could only be agreeing with democrats. Major yuck.

[Bengalzona]

(05-31-2018, 10:56 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: That was kind of my point.

Can't you just argue with me for the point of arguing, though?

[*michaelsean*]

(05-31-2018, 11:14 AM)hollodero Wrote: Yeah that's probably part of it. I still also blame the binary political system. People have to believe because the alternative could only be agreeing with democrats. Major yuck.

It's like rooting for the Steelers.

[jj22]

You guys are absolutely right. Trump is a Democrat, always has been and the only reason why he got his base is because he was furious Obama beat his very good friend Hillary Clinton in 2008, and so he turned on Obama. When he realized he had something with the base who hated Obama he road with it.

Truth is Trump and the Clintons are best buds. Their kids are best friends. They were at his weddings, have been financially supported by Trump through the years (who has donated more to them then all of the people in the Mueller investigation combined). He's also great friends with Schumer. Like best buds people! People don't know his story because they just liked that he attacked Obama. They never realized he attacked Obama because Obama beat his great family friend Hillary. It's comical if it wasn't so sad that people are so blinded by political party they don't see or don't want to see this.