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Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - TheLeonardLeap - 05-19-2017 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/19/3-mississippi-teens-face-capital-murder-charges-in-killing-6-year-old-boy.html Quote:Three young Mississippi men on Thursday were arrested hours after a 6-year-old boy was found shot dead in his mother's stolen car and the suspects will be charged with capital murder, authorities said. It doesn't matter if you're 17 or not. You have an illegal gun, you steal a car, and then you murder a 6-year-old. There's really no redemption from that, and a life sentence would be like 60-70 years of tax payer burden. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - SunsetBengal - 05-19-2017 I reckon that hangin' is too good for these fellers. Better just give them shots to put them to sleep.. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - HarleyDog - 05-19-2017 Somehow this will be Trumps fault. Just give it time. Kill these shitheads. Don't care how, just do it now. Throw them in a pit of alligators, piranhas, or spiders. Make it painful, make it slow! RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - Yojimbo - 05-19-2017 My take on death penalty is, if you have video evidence or admission of guilt in cases of murder and rape, hang'em. Otherwise, I'd be cautious because so many death penalty cases have been overturned when new evidence or trials have happened. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - NATI BENGALS - 05-19-2017 Coulda been one ring leader and two numb nuts teenagers scientifically proven to be illogical risk takers making bad decisions. And before we know the full story some people get on board with killing some kids who havent turned 18. Totally disgusting story. One person pulled the trigger, one person stole the car. Im not comfortable saying kill all 3. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - HarleyDog - 05-19-2017 (05-19-2017, 09:36 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Coulda been one ring leader and two numb nuts teenagers scientifically proven to be illogical risk takers making bad decisions. Kill them. We'll sort it out later! RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - Belsnickel - 05-19-2017 Vengeance carried out by the state accomplishes nothing other than one, or in this case three, fewer person(s) in the world. I don't support the death penalty, even in this case. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - Yojimbo - 05-20-2017 (05-19-2017, 10:38 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Vengeance carried out by the state accomplishes nothing other than one, or in this case three, fewer person(s) in the world. I don't support the death penalty, even in this case. People who rape and murder don't deserve this world. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - bfine32 - 05-20-2017 (05-19-2017, 10:38 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Vengeance carried out by the state accomplishes nothing other than one, or in this case three, fewer person(s) in the world. I don't support the death penalty, even in this case. The biggest enigma is those that oppose the death penalty; yet, support abortion. Personally. I think both should be reserved for extreme circumstances. But lean more toward executing the one that made a conscious decision. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - Millhouse - 05-20-2017 Im not in favor of it for all 3, that is just wrong. For the one that pulled the trigger though, I could care less what happens to him. If he doesnt get it, then put him in with the hardest criminals there are in max security for the rest of his life. On a side note, what was the mother thinking leaving a 6 year old in the car while it was running? This is the perfect case of when a parent fails parenting 101 it directly yet indirectly leads to the death of the child or something else horrible. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 05-20-2017 (05-20-2017, 02:14 AM)bfine32 Wrote: The biggest enigma is those that oppose the death penalty; yet, support abortion. Another enigma is Christians who believe people will go to Hell for killing, but believe soldiers receive a Get-Out-of-Hell-Free Card for killing during combat. Also, I haven't read a single person here support abortion, but rather support the freedom for others to decide for themselves. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - Belsnickel - 05-20-2017 (05-20-2017, 02:14 AM)bfine32 Wrote: The biggest enigma is those that oppose the death penalty; yet, support abortion. I don't support abortion, I support individual liberty and bodily autonomy. I am morally opposed to abortion but don't see it as the role of the state to make that decision. I don't expect that explanation to ejd future strawman attempts since I have explained this a number of times, but I figured one more go at it. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - jason - 05-20-2017 (05-19-2017, 09:26 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Somehow this will be Trumps fault. Just give it time. Trump probably had no hand in this incident. Back in the 80s he demanded that a group of teens who were accused of a heinous crime in Central Park be put to death. He went so far as to call them animals... After serving years in prison, their bs conviction was overturned. Moral of the story; it's best to let all of the facts play out before demanding blood.... But yeah. This is sickening. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - bfine32 - 05-20-2017 (05-20-2017, 05:33 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I don't support abortion, I support individual liberty and bodily autonomy. I am morally opposed to abortion but don't see it as the role of the state to make that decision. I don't expect that explanation to ejd future strawman attempts since I have explained this a number of times, but I figured one more go at it. I am aware of your view; that's why I said it is an enigma. Yours and others support of individual liberty and bodily autonomy makes life cheap and "makes fewer person(s) in the world". It's the same argument that many use to oppose Capital Punishment. You don't support Capitol Punishment and I do not support Not really sure you are using the term strawman correctly. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - BmorePat87 - 05-20-2017 The fact that innocent people can still get killed and it costs us much more still outweighs avenging murdered children. From a vengeance standpoint, they're going to get a lot worse if they're in gen pop. I've heard people who harm kids get extra attention. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 05-20-2017 (05-20-2017, 06:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I am aware of your view; that's why I said it is an enigma. Yours and others support of individual liberty and bodily autonomy makes life cheap and "makes fewer person(s) in the world". It's the same argument that many use to oppose Capital Punishment. Same can be said for believing a camouflage uniform absolves a soldier of the sin of killing only makes it that much easier to kill without remorse and thus cheapens life. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - Belsnickel - 05-20-2017 (05-20-2017, 06:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I am aware of your view; that's why I said it is an enigma. Yours and others support of individual liberty and bodily autonomy makes life cheap and "makes fewer person(s) in the world". It's the same argument that many use to oppose Capital Punishment. It is a strawman, because I do not support abortion. I seek to end the need for the procedure in all but the most dire situations. I just support greater access to contraceptives, greater access to health care, better reproductive education, etc., as a means to that result instead of the state stripping people that have committed no crime of their personal liberty. I only support the state denying someone their liberty in the case of a criminal conviction, and I don't support the state, or anyone else, really, denying someone their life unless they pose an immediate threat to the life of another. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - bfine32 - 05-20-2017 (05-20-2017, 07:46 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I don't support the state, or anyone else, really, denying someone their life unless they pose an immediate threat to the life of another. I too do not support the state, or anyone else, really, denying someone their life unless they pose an immediate threat to the life of another. This is why I support Still not a strawman as I have not introduced an argument not made. Of course you support abortion if you do not condemn it and vote against it anytime you are given the opportunity. The enigma is that you cannot support the state executing someone that has committed grave atrocities, but you WTS, just my opinion. As I have always said: Folk's relationship with their maker is a personal one. Mine just points me toward supporting the execution of someone that has murdered, ect...over someone who just hasn't been given to time to be born yet. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - bfine32 - 05-20-2017 (05-20-2017, 07:06 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: The fact that innocent people can still get killed and it costs us much more still outweighs avenging murdered children. From a vengeance standpoint, they're going to get a lot worse if they're in gen pop. I've heard people who harm kids get extra attention. Of course the cost comes from numerous appeals, ect....The innocent people getting killed I can understand, but we could easily reduce the cost of executing folks. RE: Why the death penalty isn't all bad. - BmorePat87 - 05-20-2017 (05-20-2017, 08:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Of course the cost comes from numerous appeals, ect....The innocent people getting killed I can understand, but we could easily reduce the cost of executing folks. Yea, but the mandatory appeals do act as a safeguard for making sure innocent people aren't killed. |