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Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - GMDino - 09-21-2016 This is madness. I hold on to the belief that the people doing the destruction either don't really care about the incident or they are too dumb to understand it. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/09/20/susect-killed-police-involved-shooting-charlotte/90755694/ Quote:CHARLOTTE — Demonstrators started a fire and shut down part of Interstate 85 early Wednesday and about 12 police officers were injured and squad cars damaged when protests erupted after an African-American man was shot and killed by another officer. This type of behavior does NOTHING to help the situation. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 09:30 AM)GMDino Wrote: This is madness. Police officer shoots armed suspect, people get mad. Sadly there are a lot of people who think like you. You're the last person who should be expressing surprise over this. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - Bengalbug - 09-21-2016 It's really this simple. #1) don't do illegal, unlawful things #2) don't point a fire arm at an officer #3) listen to all officers commands If those 3 steps are followed I bet there are handful of shootings over course of a year and not a couple a week. ----------- If I kill someone, I expect to be shot If I point a gun at an officer I expect to be shot If I walk back to my car (maybe to get something or maybe to not listen) when a officer tells me to put hands up or get on the ground... I put myself in a situation for additional force by officer and to potentially be shot. In any of those situations happen, even my own parents would admit I put myself into the situation. It's not the officers fault it's MY fault. Unfortunately, until we start educating young children and adults and help people get out of a perpetual lifestyle where people don't know any better, things won't change. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - GMDino - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 10:42 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Police officer shoots armed suspect, people get mad. Sadly there are a lot of people who think like you. You're the last person who should be expressing surprise over this. If more people thought like me we'd have peaceful demonstrations, thoughtful dialogue and real discussions on the events. But thanks for another personal attack. You're at least good at that. ![]() RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 10:59 AM)GMDino Wrote: If more people thought like me we'd have peaceful demonstrations, thoughtful dialogue and real discussions on the events. Pointing out your past posts is not a personal attack. Sorry you're so thin skinned that pointing out your own words comes off as an attack. ![]() RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - BmorePat87 - 09-21-2016 Family says he was sitting in the car waiting for his kid to get off the bus, had a book not a gun. Cops say they recovered a firearm. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 11:11 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Family says he was sitting in the car waiting for his kid to get off the bus, had a book not a gun. Cops say they recovered a firearm. Remember the teenager who got shot in the St. Louis area not long after Mike Brown? His family said he was holding a sandwich. Turned out the sandwich was actually a handgun. I'm sure the more conspiratorially inclined among us will bring up a plant gun. Alex Jones had multiple children who are now part of the anti-law enforcement movement. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - GMDino - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 11:06 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Pointing out your past posts is not a personal attack. Sorry you're so thin skinned that pointing out your own words comes off as an attack. Misinterpreting my posts is. Please stay on topic. Thanks. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 11:15 AM)GMDino Wrote: Misinterpreting my posts is. You started the off topic conversation, please keep up. Again, you have a history of posts that are anti-law enforcement and have demonstrated an inclination to dismiss the accounts of LEO's. Pointing out that these protesters, who are protesting the shooting of an armed man, share that particular trait with you. Hence your surprise at their behavior seems rather fake to me. Forced at the very least. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - BmorePat87 - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 11:14 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Remember the teenager who got shot in the St. Louis area not long after Mike Brown? His family said he was holding a sandwich. Turned out the sandwich was actually a handgun. I'm sure the more conspiratorially inclined among us will bring up a plant gun. Alex Jones had multiple children who are now part of the anti-law enforcement movement. I'm not inclined to believe they'd plant a gun or even have a gun on hand that they could plant. I do find the brief description of what happened to be inadequate, though, but I understand that information isn't always readily available. I don't know why a 40 something year old dad would be displaying a gun to cops, especially when they aren't even there for him. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - GMDino - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 11:19 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You started the off topic conversation, please keep up. Again, you have a history of posts that are anti-law enforcement and have demonstrated an inclination to dismiss the accounts of LEO's. Pointing out that these protesters, who are protesting the shooting of an armed man, share that particular trait with you. Hence your surprise at their behavior seems rather fake to me. Forced at the very least. Or its is possible I am for protests, not riots. I am for questioning events, not playing judge, jury executioner (for either side). Perhaps a person can have a view that is not black and white about the black and whites. I am all for discussion on this topic...not for burning down cities over it. I also not for just blowing every shooting off and hoping for the best in the end. But enough about me. ![]() As I was saying in the OP...this type of response does no good at all. Whether an innocent man was killed or the officers were 100% justified. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - SunsetBengal - 09-21-2016 Police said he had a gun. Police recover a gun. Officer responsible is Black. Reports of rioters yelling "Black lives matter", "Hands up, don't shoot". Time to shut down the Interstate and loot the local Walmart.. Police in riot gear, getting pelted with bottles and rocks. I don't know about you, but I'm getting tired of this crap. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - GMDino - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 11:39 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Police said he had a gun. Police recover a gun. Officer responsible is Black. Agreed. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - CageTheBengal - 09-21-2016 How come police can't stop people who aren't an immediate threat without killing them? They should be trained and willing to do everything possible to avoid death. Tasers, beanbags and shooting someone in the leg ass opposed to killing them all seem like realistic options. Also they should actually be physically fit so there not intimidated by a big man which results in fearful decision making. If they could defend themselves without weapons they wouldn't have to hide behind one at the first instance of fear. Killing someone for simply not following precise orders is more like living in an country ruled by order not freedom. Whether the person is messed up on drugs, (Most people are these days when opoids are handed out like candy. It's not just "low lives") or just simply deaf or hearing impaired more than likely you're gonna get shot (more then once.) or the tar knocked out of you. Everyone has a right to a trial but it never gets to that point when you're 20 feet underground. Officers take these jobs knowing there is danger involved but want to cry foul if they sense they might ever get a scratch on them. Am I going to take a job a roofer and then complain when I have to stand on a hot roof and my back aches? These people chose this profession if they can't handle it because they are physically unfit or mentally unstable they need to get out of this line of work. Nobody said it was an easy job. For the record I don't believe it's just a race issue that's just a piece of the puzzle. I think low income families in general get judged and treated unfairly as well. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - Bengalbug - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 12:01 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: How come police can't stop people who aren't an immediate threat without killing them? They should be trained and willing to do everything possible to avoid death. Tasers, beanbags and shooting someone in the leg ass opposed to killing them all seem like realistic options. Also they should actually be physically fit so there not intimidated by a big man which results in fearful decision making. If they could defend themselves without weapons they wouldn't have to hide behind one at the first instance of fear. Killing someone for simply not following precise orders is more like living in an country ruled by order not freedom. Whether the person is messed up on drugs, (Most people are these days when opoids are handed out like candy. It's not just "low lives") or just simply deaf or hearing impaired more than likely you're gonna get shot (more then once.) or tar knocked out of you. Everyone has a right to a trial but it never gets to that point when you're 20 feet underground. Why can't we respect authority? Police officers have a tough job and if the people listened to their orders they wouldn't get shot. Simple as that. Are they wrong and do they make mistakes? Absolutely, more than their fair share. But I would be 99% of the shootings are due to citizens putting themselves in a situation where a shooting can occur And police are not trained to shoot to injure... Never have been. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - GMDino - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 12:01 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: How come police can't stop people who aren't an immediate threat without killing them? They should be trained and willing to do everything possible to avoid death. Tasers, beanbags and shooting someone in the leg ass opposed to killing them all seem like realistic options. Also they should actually be physically fit so there not intimidated by a big man which results in fearful decision making. If they could defend themselves without weapons they wouldn't have to hide behind one at the first instance of fear. Killing someone for simply not following precise orders is more like living in an country ruled by order not freedom. Whether the person is messed up on drugs, (Most people are these days when opoids are handed out like candy. It's not just "low lives") or just simply deaf or hearing impaired more than likely you're gonna get shot (more then once.) or the tar knocked out of you. Everyone has a right to a trial but it never gets to that point when you're 20 feet underground. Exactly. Less race, more economic. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - bfine32 - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 12:01 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: How come police can't stop people who aren't an immediate threat without killing them? They should be trained and willing to do everything possible to avoid death. Tasers, beanbags and shooting someone in the leg ass opposed to killing them all seem like realistic options. Also they should actually be physically fit so there not intimidated by a big man which results in fearful decision making. If they could defend themselves without weapons they wouldn't have to hide behind one at the first instance of fear. Killing someone for simply not following precise orders is more like living in an country ruled by order not freedom. Whether the person is messed up on drugs, (Most people are these days when opoids are handed out like candy. It's not just "low lives") or just simply deaf or hearing impaired more than likely you're gonna get shot (more then once.) or the tar knocked out of you. Everyone has a right to a trial but it never gets to that point when you're 20 feet underground. "Shoot them in the leg" for real? Why not just shoot the gun out of their hand? As to the rest: I'm sure each office has evaluation critera both physical and mental that LEO's must meet or excede. Because they are are not to the standard that you require is irrelivent. RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - Bengalbug - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 12:01 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: How come police can't stop people who aren't an immediate threat without killing them? They should be trained and willing to do everything possible to avoid death. Tasers, beanbags and shooting someone in the leg ass opposed to killing them all seem like realistic options. Also they should actually be physically fit so there not intimidated by a big man which results in fearful decision making. If they could defend themselves without weapons they wouldn't have to hide behind one at the first instance of fear. Killing someone for simply not following precise orders is more like living in an country ruled by order not freedom. Whether the person is messed up on drugs, (Most people are these days when opoids are handed out like candy. It's not just "low lives") or just simply deaf or hearing impaired more than likely you're gonna get shot (more then once.) or the tar knocked out of you. Everyone has a right to a trial but it never gets to that point when you're 20 feet underground. Define low income.. Are we talking about the single mom working 2 jobs scraping by that is showing her kids how important work is. Or are we talking about the low income that never get off gov assistance due to laziness, etc? If we are talking about the latter... Well that group is the majority of the reason for why we have a lack of education in the inner city. Why kids are not involved in sports, family, etc... But drugs & gangs. Lack of respec, and woe is me attitudet. I don't pitty the latter group, but feel we should help the first RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - Millhouse - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 12:07 PM)bfine32 Wrote: "Shoot them in the leg" for real? Why not just shoot the gun out of their hand? Its possible, I've seen it done before. ![]() RE: Protests erupt in Charlotte after police kill man; 12 officers hurt - PhilHos - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 12:01 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: How come police can't stop people who aren't an immediate threat without killing them?Ummm, they do, though. There are what, thousands of, if not more, police interactions every single day. The overwhelming majority of which don't involve the officer even pulling a weapon/tazer out of its holster. |