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RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - GMDino - 04-21-2017 "I'm sending an armada to North Korea." Versus "We have ships that will be headed to North Korea in the very near future." They likely didn't know where the ships were headed when they spoke (Trump and Spicer) or Trump said something like "Send a force there" and was told it would happen and he didn't care about the details and just started talking to the public about it. That's more his style: He says do something, someone says yes and then he claims it's already happening no matter how long it really takes or what the details really are. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - BmorePat87 - 04-21-2017 (04-21-2017, 11:19 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I could reply and suggest Brad was 100% correct in telling Steel to do some research; as he erroneously used his quote as grounds to assert POTUS is a moron (subjectively of course). But why bother. obviously if you quote an article you have researched the subject/ Roll with it. and I could reply that someone who doesn't know why the ships were in Australia should also be doing some research. But why bother. Obviously if you don't know something then you have researched the subject. /Roll with it. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - BmorePat87 - 04-21-2017 (04-21-2017, 11:55 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: Because, even though they were heading in the wrong direction to start, doesn't change the fact that the destination was still the same. This analogy has nothing to do with why you assumed someone didn't read up on an issue despite claiming you knew they were reading an article about this issue nor does it have anything to do with Trump implying that the ships were headed straight to Norty Korea. A bus making a 2 minute stop on its route is different from ships sailing 4,000 miles in the opposite direction for an assignment before heading to another location weeks later. Maybe if your example had the bus leaving Kentucky and picking up some kids in California and stopping for a week before dropping them off at Ted Nugent Middle School in Skeeterville, Kentucky, then I'd say "Yea, sure, similar". A better response instead of this silly analogy would be "Trump didn't explicitly say they were headed straight there, the media made that the narrative based on his ambiguous remarks". It shifts blame away from Trump and onto the media. Quote:False again. The reasons for heading to Australia were of insignificant points as to the discussion of this thread. It's relevant towards my post in which I suggested you should "do some research" as you asked Ballsofsteel to do. If you're going to suggest others aren't researching the topic at hand, at least make sure you are. Just trying to help you cover your ass. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - THE Bigzoman - 04-22-2017 (04-16-2017, 09:37 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Unfortunately the world is not a middle school playground. They are, but not for the reason you think. Our military presence worldwide has enabled our allies to spend less on their own. It's a part of the reason why Europe can afford to have more generous welfare states. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - bfine32 - 04-22-2017 (04-21-2017, 12:30 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: and I could reply that someone who doesn't know why the ships were in Australia should also be doing some research. But why bother. Obviously if you don't know something then you have researched the subject. /Roll with it. Oh you already bothered to do that. Your pointing out of who needed to research the matter is what let me to question the basis for your interjection. As it appeared that Steel was unclear of the article he actually RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - fredtoast - 04-22-2017 (04-22-2017, 11:24 AM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: They are, but not for the reason you think. Actually that is exactly one of the reasons I think they are laughing at us. We'd rather build bombs than take care of our own people. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - BmorePat87 - 04-22-2017 (04-22-2017, 01:02 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It just seemed your interjection was based more on who posted than what was posted. ^ Basically what you're doing, dude. It's cool, I still like you :giggle: I understand that your disagreement over BoS's analysis of the quote he obtained, but that really doesn't change the fact that all in one post Brad acknowledged ignorance of the subject and then told someone else who actually provided a quote relevant to the topic at hand that THEY should be the one who does more research. He should practice what he preaches. Whether or not your think BoS was also misguided and should do more research doesn't really change this hypocrisy on Brad's part. Would I have pointed out this hypocrisy if it were some other posters? Probably not, but at least I've been pleasant and have suggested counter arguments for him. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - BFritz21 - 04-22-2017 (04-21-2017, 12:49 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: This analogy has nothing to do with why you assumed someone didn't read up on an issue despite claiming you knew they were reading an article about this issue nor does it have anything to do with Trump implying that the ships were headed straight to Norty Korea. (04-22-2017, 01:41 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: ^ Basically what you're doing, dude. It's cool, I still like you :giggle: You're so bias against me that it's impossible to take you serious, but it's hilarious to watch other people try to do so. The ship was taking care of the business off of Australia but the destination was going to be near North Korea. In trying to gain show confidence, a leader doesn't list the details on the events before the end result. He was sending a carrier near North Korea, so he's not going to bother mentioning that they were stopping off in Australia first. The end result is what's important. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - fredtoast - 04-22-2017 Claiming Trump is giving this country its identity back is like claiming liquor gives Mel Gibson his identity back. If it is true it is sad. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - BmorePat87 - 04-22-2017 (04-22-2017, 01:56 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: You're so bias against me that it's impossible to take you serious, but it's hilarious to watch other people try to do so. I've been pretty fair given what you've posted so far in this thread. I even gave you a way to spin Trump's perceived mistake as you tried to condescendingly lob hilariously bad analogies at me. I figured your pretty lengthy time out would have given you time to reflect on your behaviors, but it seems like the ol' "no one takes you seriously" bit is back. For what it is worth, I am glad you're no longer banned. The boards are fun and it sucks to not have a unique outlet like this available. :giggle: RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - BFritz21 - 04-22-2017 (04-22-2017, 03:44 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I've been pretty fair given what you've posted so far in this thread. I even gave you a way to spin Trump's perceived mistake as you tried to condescendingly lob hilariously bad analogies at me. When did I ever say "no one takes me seriously"? I simply pointed out that almost every one of your posts in regards to any point I've made over the past few years offers nothing with any substance and simply resorts to personal attacks, which you did again. Kudos. Resorting to personal attacks, and even bringing the banning, shows how weak your debate in this thread is. You avoided my point in the post that you just quoted to try to avoid the fact that you have absolutely no answer for it. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - BmorePat87 - 04-23-2017 (04-22-2017, 05:34 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: When did I ever say "no one takes me seriously"? Nothing changes if nothing changes. Free advice to help you prevent an even longer timeout. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - wildcats forever - 04-23-2017 (04-22-2017, 05:34 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: When did I ever say "no one takes me seriously"? (04-23-2017, 12:15 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Nothing changes if nothing changes. Free advice to help you prevent an even longer timeout. What would be nice is if everyone would stay on topic, and discuss that respectfully with each other. Let's keep it that simple. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 04-26-2017 https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-admiral-takes-blame-carrier-n-korea-fiasco-161750870.html Leadership involves taking responsibility. Not making excuses. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - GMDino - 06-18-2017 http://fox6now.com/2017/06/13/ge-closing-plant-in-waukesha-moving-300-plus-jobs-to-canada-and-workers-arent-happy/ Quote:GE closing plant in Waukesha, moving 300-plus jobs to Canada, and workers aren’t happy RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - Dill - 06-18-2017 (06-18-2017, 04:22 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://fox6now.com/2017/06/13/ge-closing-plant-in-waukesha-moving-300-plus-jobs-to-canada-and-workers-arent-happy/ Wonder if Boeing will follow suit, at least with some jobs. They were the other big booster of Ex-im. Trump was its mortal enemy--until this year. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - Vas Deferens - 06-19-2017 (06-18-2017, 08:58 PM)Dill Wrote: Wonder if Boeing will follow suit, at least with some jobs. They were the other big booster of Ex-im. Trump was its mortal enemy--until this year. Pat's fault. All those damn facts. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - ballsofsteel - 06-19-2017 (04-19-2017, 09:04 AM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: I know people have complained about defense spending. The issue here is that people are trying to criticize Trumps use of Tomahawk missles like it's some "new" thing. Hi Matt. The point I was trying to make was not about defense spending. (Everyone pretty much knows what a bloated and corrupt system this is). What I was saying was that it appeared to me that trump spent 60 mill to appear like he was a tough guy for nothing. It accomplished nothing. It was all a show. How many people could that 60 mill have fed in OUR country. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - GMDino - 06-22-2017 Flipping around station after dinner last night saw a story on CBS where they interviewed people who stood in line for over a day to be in the first row at a Trump rally yesterday. One lady said this was her 12th such event. How do they do that when only democrats without jobs have time like that? ![]() All seriousness aside an NPR story this morning interviewed some people from the rally and one said she doesn't believe anything she she's or reads from the media. Seriously. I can understand being skeptical, but the Trump base just blocks it ALL out and believes what they want to be true. That's why campaigning against him is worthless. They don't even hear it. RE: Trump Is Giving This Country Its Identity Back - Dill - 06-23-2017 (06-22-2017, 08:48 AM)GMDino Wrote: Flipping around station after dinner last night saw a story on CBS where they interviewed people who stood in line for over a day to be in the first row at a Trump rally yesterday. One lady said this was her 12th such event. They aren't shutting out ALL media. One station provides a proper counter-narrative to MSM reports of Russian hacking and collusion. They will listen when they lose their Medicare. |