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RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Mike M (the other one) - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 03:31 PM)pally Wrote: These laws are so poorly written that no one knows what actually constitutes a major medical risk and when that kicks in. Everyone knows an ectopic pregnancy is nonviable, but is it an emergency before the tube ruptures? At what point does pre-eclampsic blood pressure become life-threatening or uncontrollable? How much bleeding is dangerous? Can a dead fetus be removed BEFORE it turns septic? Republicans in the legislature were all so eager to prove they were the most pro-life that they wrote bad laws. It is just like those vague anti-CRT-type laws going around. They are so poorly written no one knows what is legal and what isn't legal. I agree that sometimes they are very poorly written, but you know as well as i do that had anyone gone after the 10 yr old and tried her for anything it would be absolute political suicide. I mean i realize that alot of politicians aren't the brightest out there (I kinda blame it on lack of common sense) but very few are THAT dumb. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Mike M (the other one) - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 03:44 PM)pally Wrote: This is from Jim Bopp a lawyer for the National Right to Life Org who wrote the prototype for these abortion bans on the 10 year old OFC he would, What else would you expect from someone that is an extremist? Honestly, has a SINGLE person in here said that? RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - BigPapaKain - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 03:09 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Are you referring to Donna Hylton? That's a messed up story all around, how ever, She kinda crossed a line.. Right because nobody has ever been driven to do something extreme by years of stress. Even if she crossed a line (whack take at best), it could EASILY be argued that she was pushed over the line more than she crossed it. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Mike M (the other one) - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 03:55 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Right because nobody has ever been driven to do something extreme by years of stress. Whack take? Yes she was messed up from what had happened to her, but please fill in the story. She was free from her rapist for a few years? Married and living with another guy... Turned around and drugged and kidnapped her original rapist, tried to extort him for money, then tortured him to death? As a human being, i can understand a revenge kill, but what she did, just doesn't quite feel like it was just revenge she was after. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - BigPapaKain - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 04:38 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Whack take? Yes she was messed up from what had happened to her, but please fill in the story. You don't just come back normal from what she went through. Just because someone puts up the healthy facade doesn't mean they're in a good place (see also: Williams, Robin). Maybe I'm a bit on the aggressive side of this, but I feel like she was 100% justified in paying it back as brutally as she did. I'm not a judge so my opinion is irrelevant in the long run. Hell, even in the short run I'm going to come off as a raving lunatic. So be it. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 04:55 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: You don't just come back normal from what she went through. Just because someone puts up the healthy facade doesn't mean they're in a good place (see also: Williams, Robin). Using your logic every single family member of a murder victim should be able to kill the murderer once they're released from prison. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - BigPapaKain - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 04:57 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Using your logic every single family member of a murder victim should be able to kill the murderer once they're released from prison. *hardy shrug* I never said it was sound logic or even healthy logic. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Bengalzona - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 12:50 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Since accusations and ulterior motives were ascribed to people wanting corroboration for this story I'd like to present a piece citing the exact same concerns from the far right Washington Post. Yes. I saw this article yesterday and thought it was decently written and made some good points. Being one of the "gullible" people who re-posted the one-source article, frankly I was pissed that the ones who published the initial article would have been so reckless as to not have a confirming source prior to sharing it. Even if it was later proved accurate. If you want people to trust you as a source of information, you can't go with personal feelings and forget you professionalism, IMO. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Bengalzona - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 01:48 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Speaking of facts, I thought that point would not be disputed. But no less than ten minutes after I posted a similar thing about this on FaceBook, a friend of mine started arguing the point. Basically along the lines of "farm animals", "other cultures", "nature", and "old enough to bleed...", etc. This, in turn, forced me into a rabbit's hole of Google searching for such terms as "pre-teen pregnancy", "precocious puberty", "list of earliest births", and other terms which I know that I will someday regret searching for when some asshat is digging through my private search history. I was pissed off that he chose that line of arguing, and doubly pissed of at myself for 'taking the bait' and engaging. (Yeah. He's a bit messed up. But he is still my friend. And aren't we all a little messed up, anyway?) Anyhow... here is a link about the list of earliest pregnancies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers Those are the ones that went to full term. Overwhelmingly, most don't make it that far. It is an interesting, but very sad read. If you look through the descriptions on the right, you quickly realize the incestuous rape is clearly among the most common causes. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - GMDino - 07-14-2022 The AG of Indiana wants to pursue charges against the doctor and also take away her medical license. 1) He can't file charges. 2) He claimed he couldn't find where the doctor filed the proper papers for the abortion, however a report with journalistic integrity found it immediately. https://fox59.com/indiana-news/abortion-report-confirms-indiana-doctor-followed-law-after-ag-vowed-investigation/ Quote:INDIANAPOLIS — After Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita threatened to go after the license of an Indiana physician who provided an abortion to a 10-year-old rape victim from Ohio, documents obtained by FOX59 through a public record request proved the physician not only filed a terminated pregnancy report but filed the report within the required timeframe. There is also a letter floating around saying the 10 year old would NOT have been legally able to get an abortion in OH but I have not verified that yet. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Vas Deferens - 07-15-2022 What an idiot. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - BFritz21 - 07-15-2022 So apparently this guy that raped her was an illegal immigrant, so this falls squarely on Biden's shoulders and his immigration policy, or lack thereof. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - CarolinaBengalFanGuy - 07-15-2022 (07-14-2022, 05:26 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: I thought that point would not be disputed. But no less than ten minutes after I posted a similar thing about this on FaceBook, a friend of mine started arguing the point. Basically along the lines of "farm animals", "other cultures", "nature", and "old enough to bleed...", etc. This, in turn, forced me into a rabbit's hole of Google searching for such terms as "pre-teen pregnancy", "precocious puberty", "list of earliest births", and other terms which I know that I will someday regret searching for when some asshat is digging through my private search history. I was pissed off that he chose that line of arguing, and doubly pissed of at myself for 'taking the bait' and engaging. Well considering the ages listed I'm actually surprised how many of them had the babies and both mother and child survived. Having no idea about pregnancies that young I would have assumed it was very dangerous for 10 and under, but not nearly as dangerous as I assumed. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Nately120 - 07-15-2022 (07-15-2022, 01:58 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: So apparently this guy that raped her was an illegal immigrant, so this falls squarely on Biden's shoulders and his immigration policy, or lack thereof. Ive seen reports that say he's been here since 2015. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - GMDino - 07-15-2022 "Let the state's decide" is also "let the state decide if their residents can leave to go where something is legal" if you are republican.
RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Nately120 - 07-15-2022 (07-15-2022, 09:56 AM)GMDino Wrote: "Let the state's decide" is also "let the state decide if their residents can leave to go where something is legal" if you are republican. I bet if you move to an abortion legal state you have to be a resident for 9+ months before your right to get an abortion is recognized. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - BigPapaKain - 07-15-2022 (07-15-2022, 09:56 AM)GMDino Wrote: "Let the state's decide" is also "let the state decide if their residents can leave to go where something is legal" if you are republican. SMALL GOVERNMENT Y'ALL!! RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Nately120 - 07-15-2022 (07-15-2022, 10:48 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: SMALL GOVERNMENT Y'ALL!! If you elect me governor of Arkansas we will build a wall to keep pregnant women from leaving to get abortions and planned Parenthood is gonna pay for it! RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Bengalzona - 07-15-2022 (07-15-2022, 02:56 AM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: Well considering the ages listed I'm actually surprised how many of them had the babies and both mother and child survived. Having no idea about pregnancies that young I would have assumed it was very dangerous for 10 and under, but not nearly as dangerous as I assumed. The list doesn't really make my point about it being so dangerous for the 10-year olds because there is no list of how many were actually impregnated in the first place to compare it to. But it does demonstrate the horrific conditions with which they are impregnated which, by the very act, always includes the act of rape and almost always involves a relative or neighbor. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Mike M (the other one) - 07-15-2022 (07-15-2022, 09:56 AM)GMDino Wrote: "Let the state's decide" is also "let the state decide if their residents can leave to go where something is legal" if you are republican. ??? First, there is no law preventing women from crossing state lines to seek an abortion?? Not so sure why that's needed.. but after reading it, looks like she's giving anyone that gives an abortion pretty much 100% legal immunity??? So I'd not be for it either. So unless i'm misreading something, it's just a BS piece created to sensationalize it. |