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RE: Man using strips in front of girls - Sovereign Nation - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 02:24 AM)Benton Wrote: I'm not really following. Jews had been in Europe for centuries at that point, citizens of every (almost every?) European country at the start of the first world war. They weren't demanding rights, they were rights they already had. And rights that were taken away when a few realized how much they stood to gain by doing so.
It isn't necessarily Jews.
It is anyone who is not originally a part of the nation. Or even if they live in the nation still hold allegiances to their homeland. Jews fit this a bit more than others. La Raza is another example.
You could have a Hispanic kid whose parents were born in the US. The grandparents LEGALLY migrated to the US. However the kid still doesn't accept the US as his country and sets himself as separate from the rest of the country.
Jews are very similar in their behavior. While they may move into and live in another country, they are pretty tribal and will only do business with other Jews. You see this with Muslims as well as the many Asian communities in our country.
So let us take Muslims for instance: If you get one or two families that move to an area, then they will live their and stay quiet and practice their beliefs as innocuous as possible. However, as more families move in, then a No Go zone is created in which the community that was originally there is replaced by the beliefs practiced by Muslims. Check out Lutton as an example of this.
So to me a person or family leaving one country to live in another is fine, provided it is done legally, as long as they don't try to replace the current culture or belief system or laws. If they are unhappy with the host countries culture, belief system or laws then they should either look for another country or return to their homeland. I mean, take the refugees that are pouring into Europe, they are fleeing Syria and then complaining that Europe isn't like Syria.
When European women are attacked by the refugees for being immoral in their own country then we have a problem.
So the concept that I was referring to is not necessarily directed at Jews, but outsiders moving into a country in general.
With the Jews, I don't think it was that they did anything violent, however they did create networks that were only available to other Jews to utilize and they also push for diversity in other countries, while insisting that Israel remain closed.
I don't know how true, but Seth Rogan is credited in saying that he is Jewish and he supports open boarders and that he thinks Israel should be open to immigrants and refugees, but Hollywood won't let him express that belief on screen.
If that is true, I have more respect for Seth Rogan than George Soros - who supports open boarders in the US and Europe, but doesn't support any calls for open boarders for Israel.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - Sovereign Nation - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 02:33 AM)Benton Wrote: YouTube video so ill give it some benefit of the doubt... But... Those papers aren't real. Maybe the guy got reproductions. But the ones in the video are not real. The stories could be, that would take some footwork to prove or disprove, but I have papers dating back to the early 1800s and every decade since. I've gone through dozens of newspaper archives dating back that far. Without getting too technical, the type is fake, the degradation of the paper is horribly fake and the hed structure is unlikely.
Yeah, that was why I didn't post that video. I have seen this video and have heard of these claims from other sources.
I am actually currently researching it, just to see if it is valid. RamzPaul is the 1st person I heard to make this claim and he says he has seen newspapers in the early 1900s that mention the Holocaust as well as the number 6 million.
Contrary to some people's belief, I research and vet things before blindly accepting them.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 02-28-2016
(02-27-2016, 07:56 PM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: I abhor socialism btw
Makes sense considering you're part of a collective and you have anarchist tendencies.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - jmccracky - 02-28-2016
(02-27-2016, 11:34 PM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: Well, I choose to let people research and discuss freely the topic. Instead of calling those who may question the information Nazi Supporters.
I profess freely, that I believe that the Jews were persecuted and that atrocities happened.
However, I also find some things not quite adding up. It would be wonderful if we could send in some objective forensic experts from the "Nazi Sympathizers" and the "Nazi Haters" side of things. Send them into Auschwitz and do a comprehensive report. For some reason that thought is frowned upon by the established narrative.
I never called you or anyone a Nazi supporter. All I was saying was that some of the stuff that you said, is the same shit I read on stormfront and the like. They do say that same shit. But it's cool man.
My wife was married to a formal white supremacist. Trust me, I know of the lies that nazi pricks use to justify their cause. Come to find out, my wife and her ex both have deep rooted Jewish blood. My wife found letters that her great-great grandma wrote, and it was while she was in a Concentration Camp. It was truly unreal. But, you don't have to believe me.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - Sovereign Nation - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 05:40 AM)CharvelPlaya Wrote: I never called you or anyone a Nazi supporter. All I was saying was that some of the stuff that you said, is the same shit I read on stormfront and the like. They do say that same shit. But it's cool man.
My wife was married to a formal white supremacist. Trust me, I know of the lies that nazi pricks use to justify their cause. Come to find out, my wife and her ex both have deep rooted Jewish blood. My wife found letters that her great-great grandma wrote, and it was while she was in a Concentration Camp. It was truly unreal. But, you don't have to believe me.
As I have said, it is all good.
I have no reason not to believe you. I take what you tell me at face value. I may not do that with everyone but I do give people the benefit of the doubt at first.
As to people justifying what they do. That is human nature. We touched on this in a different thread that got derailed. (I am going to try to do better myself to keep the threads on track). No one sees themselves as the bad guy and they all have whatever justifications that help them come to terms with their actions.
You know, I hear Stormfront mentioned a lot. Yet I have only went to the site 1 time and I didn't even navigate through it. I just loaded the page and saw that it looked like a message board and I never went back.
However, I have been to Daily Stormer.... I used to fact check his articles, but they have all checked out. He is like the liberal media in which he tells the story, but from the far other perspective. He is also a troll. He freely admits to being one and does what he does to generate a strong reaction. So yes, you will hear all the racial slurs that many will find offensive. He has also posted things in which he actually sided with the other side.
For instance - in Sweden it is illegal to have a 12 year old bride married to a 40 year man. However that is something that is allowed in Middle Eastern countries. So imagine the confusion that is caused by a migrant 40 year old man bringing in his 12 year old wife. Well DS actually sided with the migrants on that story. It isn't like it is unknown that the practice is accepted in the ME, so why the shock and outrage over it?
I also check out Red Ice Creations and Radio 3fourteen ran by Lana Lokteff and her husband Henrik. They discuss a wide variety of topics from paganism (I am a Christian), Holocaust history, White Genocide, Traditional Life, even flat earth theories ( I KNOW the earth is round, but I still enjoy the dialogue).
Those are about it as far as sites that I go to. They may not be for everyone, but they don't try to be.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - BmorePat87 - 02-28-2016
Oh, man, a thread about a dude trying to attack a trans discrimination law turned into an attack on immigrants?
#BengalsBoardP&R
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - Sovereign Nation - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 10:17 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Oh, man, a thread about a dude trying to attack a trans discrimination law turned into an attack on immigrants?
#BengalsBoardP&R
Let's be fair here though. The thread was not an outright attack on the law.
All I did was post a link and made a comment that the man said that it isn't against the law for him to be using the girls room.
I didn't give any opinion at first.
Now, we all know how threads can derail and this one was no exception. It is usually when people bring up things and points (usually about the poster they are responding too) from other threads. This was no different and of course my own beliefs were brought in.
Player and a few of us have steered this conversation to this new topic and we have all been pretty civil toward one another and just sharing our information and thoughts. Which to me isn't really a bad thing. Let the threads evolve into other topics as long as those participating are moderately civil toward one another.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - BmorePat87 - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 10:58 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: Let's be fair here though. The thread was not an outright attack on the law.
All I did was post a link and made a comment that the man said that it isn't against the law for him to be using the girls room.
I didn't give any opinion at first.
Now, we all know how threads can derail and this one was no exception. It is usually when people bring up things and points (usually about the poster they are responding too) from other threads. This was no different and of course my own beliefs were brought in.
Player and a few of us have steered this conversation to this new topic and we have all been pretty civil toward one another and just sharing our information and thoughts. Which to me isn't really a bad thing. Let the threads evolve into other topics as long as those participating are moderately civil toward one another.
"about a dude trying to attack a trans discrimination law"
Since you're not the dude from the story, you have no reason to believe I said you were trying to attack the law. Don't worry.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - Sovereign Nation - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 02:32 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: "about a dude trying to attack a trans discrimination law"
Since you're not the dude from the story, you have no reason to believe I said you were trying to attack the law. Don't worry.
Ah... Gotcha. I didn't get the impression the guy was trying to attack the law. He might have been trying to just take advantage of the law.
I just think his comments were more of a "You can't stop me." type and to further humiliate the women.
That's what I got out of it.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - BmorePat87 - 02-28-2016
(02-28-2016, 04:03 PM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: Ah... Gotcha. I didn't get the impression the guy was trying to attack the law. He might have been trying to just take advantage of the law.
I just think his comments were more of a "You can't stop me." type and to further humiliate the women.
That's what I got out of it.
Certainly two ways to interpret his actions. Either he was a pervert/jerk (like you're suggesting) or he was trying to show an assumed flaw with the law, which is what I assumed.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - Sovereign Nation - 02-29-2016
(02-28-2016, 10:49 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Certainly two ways to interpret his actions. Either he was a pervert/jerk (like you're suggesting) or he was trying to show an assumed flaw with the law, which is what I assumed.
Wouldn't you say that if he was a pervert/jerk that his actions would actually support the stance of a flaw with the law?
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - BmorePat87 - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 06:19 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: Wouldn't you say that if he was a pervert/jerk that his actions would actually support the stance of a flaw with the law?
Not necessarily as the law doesn't actually allow him to be in there, he just thought it did. A law isn't flawed merely because someone misinterprets it.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - Sovereign Nation - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 08:03 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Not necessarily as the law doesn't actually allow him to be in there, he just thought it did. A law isn't flawed merely because someone misinterprets it.
I tend to disagree. While I understand that laws are nuanced and varied. I am not a fan of laws that are written that can be misinterpreted.
If the law can be misinterpreted then, to me at least, that would mean it is either a bad law or a flawed law.
It is either legal or illegal. Not..."Well, if the man doesn't identify as a woman then it is illegal, but if he does identify as a woman then it is legal."
To me it creates too many variables to interpret the law and that can lead to misinterpretations.
Again, this is just my take on it.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - StLucieBengal - 02-29-2016
(02-26-2016, 04:18 PM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: If I am not mistaking this is a saying in Russian about wolves and forest. Something gets lost in translation but it is quite appropriate.
Да спасибо
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - Vlad - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 10:55 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Да спасибо
Yes Thank You.
My name is Vlad after all..lol
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - StLucieBengal - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 11:04 AM)Vlad Wrote: Yes Thank You.
My name is Vlad after all..lol
My Russian is not polished at all. I struggle reading, I can have a conversation as long as you don't speak really quickly. My children are better than I right now and usually spend time teaching me. Lol
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - BmorePat87 - 02-29-2016
(02-29-2016, 08:11 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: I tend to disagree. While I understand that laws are nuanced and varied. I am not a fan of laws that are written that can be misinterpreted.
If the law can be misinterpreted then, to me at least, that would mean it is either a bad law or a flawed law.
It is either legal or illegal. Not..."Well, if the man doesn't identify as a woman then it is illegal, but if he does identify as a woman then it is legal."
To me it creates too many variables to interpret the law and that can lead to misinterpretations.
Again, this is just my take on it.
The layman's explanation isn't complicated. You can use the restroom that aligns to the gender you identify with. He thought it said "men can use the women's restroom". He was wrong.
It seems like the majority of people know what the law says as it seems like this is the only man who tried to just walk in and refuse to leave.
In the end, it just matters how the legal minds interpret it, not Paulie the Perv.
Transgender bathroom controversy - StLucieBengal - 03-15-2016
A few posters always want proof that opening up the women's bathroom to men will create a safety issue for the women. Found this collection of actual crimes.
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - StLucieBengal - 03-15-2016
Ah a relevant post buried in an a three week old old thread
RE: Man using strips in front of girls - fredtoast - 03-15-2016
(03-15-2016, 06:23 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Ah a relevant post buried in an a three week old old thread
"buried" at the top of the page?