(08-30-2020, 08:47 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Being completely honest, the officer's actions in that case were so beyond the pale that at this point it doesn't really matter if that's what killed Floyd or not.  Everyone here knows I'm going to err on the side of giving law enforcement the benefit of the doubt, but that officer acted in such an egregious manner that he was never going to get that benefit.  His actions were inexcusable.  The actual cause of Floyd's death really only matters for the officer's criminal trial now, and that of the other officers.  The damage that officer did is irrevocably done, in every way possible.

(08-30-2020, 08:56 PM)Von Cichlid Wrote: That doesn't really change anything, for two reasons:

1.  The cop still acted terribly.

2.  The rioting has morphed well beyond police brutality anyway.  That was true way back when statues of Columbus and founding fathers were being toppled. 

That being said, the Floyd incident was the catalyst.  The real statement about human nature to me is that now he has murals all over America and every one is saying his name, but before that no one cared enough about him to give him $20.00.

(08-30-2020, 09:34 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I completely agree with both of you, the LEO's actions were inexcusable.  

The reason that I felt compelled to share this article and it's findings, is because many people try to portray George Floyd as just some guy that was minding his own business, and was viciously attacked by the police.  The fact of the matter is, the police are typically never called on anyone that was "minding their own business".  The guy had taken fatal levels of lethal drugs, he was causing a disturbance and the police were called.  

(08-30-2020, 09:32 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Polls.

I heard Biden is now getting out of his basement to beat Trump to WI. Folks can post the arbitrary link here and there of Dems "condemning" the violence, but just use this forum as a microcosm of who and have and have not condemned the violence  and you'll get your answer.

Put now they realize Americans are tired of the shit and they'll try to claim how much "against it" they've been. 

(08-31-2020, 08:22 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: "Arbitrary links" that prove they have been condemning it from early on. Interesting way to dismiss evidence of you being wrong.

(08-30-2020, 09:32 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Polls.

I heard Biden is now getting out of his basement to beat Trump to WI. Folks can post the arbitrary link here and there of Dems "condemning" the violence, but just use this forum as a microcosm of who and have and have not condemned the violence  and you'll get your answer.

Put now they realize Americans are tired of the shit and they'll try to claim how much "against it" they've been. 

(08-31-2020, 11:04 AM)GMDino Wrote: Has Trump or Pence condemned all the violence yet or are they still just blaming the Democrats and praising "patriots" who are riding in to "confront the left"?


I know the answer.

(08-31-2020, 11:19 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I think they've been condemning the violence continuously.  

(08-31-2020, 11:04 AM)GMDino Wrote: That's an interesting turn of a phrase from someone who doesn't support Trump.

Rushing him out of basement after seeing some very disturbing numbers. Don’t worry, he’ll go back to basement soon! https://t.co/CEMq5xowQt

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 30, 2020

 

Joe Biden is coming out of the basement earlier than his hoped for ten days because his people told him he has no choice, his poll numbers are PLUNGING! Going to Pittsburgh, where I have helped industry to a record last year, & then back to his basement for an extended period...

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 31, 2020

 


Has Trump or Pence condemned all the violence yet or are they still just blaming the Democrats and praising "patriots" who are riding in to "confront the left"?


I know the answer.

(08-31-2020, 12:54 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Remember when everyone was worried about what the TEA Party might do? Was it like this?

(09-01-2020, 11:41 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: So, the riots continue and Wheeler himself is ever becoming the focus.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/09/protesters-march-to-portland-mayor-ted-wheelers-residence-monday-throw-birthday-party-demand-resignation-live-updates.html

I've been saying, you can't cater to these people.  Letting them riot for three straight months wasn't enough, now they want Ted to resign because he didn't do enough to satisfy them.  So, the tried to set fire to his building, where numerous other people live as well.  It's almost like tolerating lawless behavior breeds more lawless behavior.

(09-02-2020, 09:53 PM)GMDino Wrote: Again maybe if the POTUS didn't encourage more outsiders to come in and cause trouble...

They're rooting for chaos and violence because they think it helps them win a second term.

Now ask yourself, is that really who you think should be running the country? pic.twitter.com/rXf0O5u0WC

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) September 2, 2020

(09-02-2020, 10:12 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Let's say Biden is 100% correct, why would you play right into Trump's hands?  The riots have been occurring for over three months and Trump is, honestly, the only person who actually tried to stop them.  Trump get's criticized, fairly and accurately, about a lot of things, but the Portland riots are not one of those instances.

(09-02-2020, 10:25 PM)GMDino Wrote:

Oh my!  I haven't laughed that hard is a long time.  Thanks!