(10-19-2023, 05:06 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Sadly a deal with Jeffries is a deal with the devil. Just ask McCarthy.

Has anyone noticed a change in their life since 8 GOP members and every democratic member voted to remove McCarthy. I say just let the situation ride. Maybe a great lesson from both sides to learn playing politics all the time can be costly.

Let them recess until February.

(10-19-2023, 05:06 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Sadly a deal with Jeffries is a deal with the devil. Just ask McCarthy.

Has anyone noticed a change in their life since 8 GOP members and every democratic member voted to remove McCarthy. I say just let the situation ride. Maybe a great lesson from both sides to learn playing politics all the time can be costly.

Let them recess until February.

Rep. Ken Buck: “I've had four death threats. I've been evicted from my office in Colorado...because the landlord is mad with my voting record on the Speaker issue...Family members have been approached and threatened...There's going to be some tension.” pic.twitter.com/B6Fjiyle3C

— Republican Accountability (@AccountableGOP) October 19, 2023

(10-19-2023, 06:10 PM)pally Wrote: And if you think that people think the economy is bad now, just wait until the Republicans plunge millions into unemployment

(10-19-2023, 06:10 PM)pally Wrote: McCarthy was voted out because he handed a hangman's noose to his extreme right-wing by allowing a single person to bring in an order to vacate motion.  Every single Democrat voted against that rules package.

If McCarthy, had told his caucus to "stuff it"  that they were going to abide by the deal they made with the debt ceiling increase, he might have received some Democratic votes to save his Speakership.  He lied to them.  He reaped what he sowed.

(10-19-2023, 06:10 PM)pally Wrote: Republicans can certainly keep the government closed for 4 months if they choose but that only proves to the world they can't govern when given the chance.  And if you think that people think the economy is bad now, just wait until the Republicans plunge millions into unemployment

(10-19-2023, 06:10 PM)pally Wrote: McCarthy was voted out because he handed a hangman's noose to his extreme right-wing by allowing a single person to bring in an order to vacate motion.  Every single Democrat voted against that rules package.

If McCarthy, had told his caucus to "stuff it"  that they were going to abide by the deal they made with the debt ceiling increase, he might have received some Democratic votes to save his Speakership.  He lied to them.  He reaped what he sowed.

Republicans can certainly keep the government closed for 4 months if they choose but that only proves to the world they can't govern when given the chance.  And if you think that people think the economy is bad now, just wait until the Republicans plunge millions into unemployment

(10-20-2023, 10:26 AM)Nately120 Wrote: I think they have another vote scheduled for 10.  Now we see if the negotiations rattled enough cages to give the American people what they want as long as it's a specific republican.

(10-20-2023, 10:32 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The Democrats helped in a big way to the create the chaos playing politics. They have a choice also, vote for a Republican for speaker or continue the chaos by voting for Jeffries knowing he will never get the votes. It is a game for Democrats, they prefer to try and make he GOP look bad versus funding the war in Israel.

(10-20-2023, 06:17 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/voicemail-republican-wife-jim-jordan-vote_n_65321d8ee4b0eb7cdbc23962

The threatening calls to family members tells me all I need to know. 

(10-20-2023, 10:32 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: The Democrats helped in a big way to the create the chaos playing politics. They have a choice also, vote for a Republican for speaker or continue the chaos by voting for Jeffries knowing he will never get the votes. It is a game for Democrats, they prefer to try and make he GOP look bad versus funding the war in Israel.

(10-19-2023, 07:51 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Exactly. The one who got shafted by his own party and then reneged on the deal he had already made can tell us about making a deal with the devil? I think it is pretty clear to everyone but the most brainwashed who the devil is in this scenario.


Well, they've already proven they can't govern. Even some of the former Republican lawmakers have been saying as much. But this won't just impact our economy. This current situation limits the aid we can send to Ukraine and to Israel. It impacts so many things. I have a friend who is a civilian contractor at the NGIC and is also a reservist intel officer who attaches to SOF units. His area of focus in the Baltics, kind of an important area of focus right now. He was supposed to be deploying in a week but because of the situation in Congress, the funds aren't there. His deployment, and thus the mission he was going to be a part of, is indefinitely delayed. Now, I have no idea what he would be doing over there, I just know that he is specifically requested by the SOF community, so take that for what it is.

(10-20-2023, 10:41 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Biden can't govern either. He sucks on foreign policy, economy and immigration. He will go down as the worst POTUS in history.

(10-20-2023, 10:41 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Biden can't govern either. He sucks on foreign policy, economy and immigration. He will go down as the worst POTUS in history.

(10-20-2023, 12:15 PM)GMDino Wrote: Stop the vote!!!

(10-20-2023, 12:19 PM)Nately120 Wrote: '


It doesn't seem like Jordan is game to vote over and over again like McCarthy was.  I assume they'll pack it in after this one and Jim will start sending goons to kidnap the children of the GOP holdouts next.

(10-20-2023, 12:25 PM)Nately120 Wrote: On a more serious note, if Jordan can't win after that speech by McCarthy, he's probably toast. McCarthy is good, I'll give him that. It's also funny hearing him echo the right-wing talking points and bitching about democrats while wondering why they didn't vote for him, but that's just politics.