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RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-02-2020 The Sheriffs of several rural Oregon counties have rejected calls from the governor to send their officers to assist in Portland. https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2020/08/31/suburban-sheriffs-refuse-governors-request-to-aid-in-policing-portland-protests/ The reason? They refused to send officers into Portland, saying they would not police protests in a county that won't prosecute people who break the law. "Had Gov. Brown discussed her plan with my office, I would have told her it's about changing policy, not adding resources," Roberts said in a statement. "Increasing law enforcement resources in Portland will not solve the nightly violence and, now, murder. The only way to make Portland safe again is to support a policy that holds offenders accountable for their destruction and violence." Without naming anyone, Roberts left little question he was referring to a policy by new Multnomah County District Attorney Mike Schmidt to drop charges for all protest-related misdemeanors and the felony charge of rioting. That policy shift has deeply divided Oregon's law enforcement community. The responses of the sheriffs also made clear that Brown has waded into a long-standing tension over whether Portland officials adequately defend police officers from legal jeopardy for using force. Last year, both the Washington and Clackamas county sheriff's departments refused to allow their officers to work in Portland for fear they would face lawsuits. You elect "progressive" District Attorneys who refuse to do their job and your get "progressive" nightly violence. Nice to see the Sheriffs of these counties looking after the well being of their deputies. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - GMDino - 09-03-2020 Ah! More help! https://www.mediamatters.org/black-lives-matter/after-kenosha-shootings-former-sheriff-david-clarke-advises-radio-listeners-how Quote:After Kenosha shootings, former Sheriff David Clarke advises radio listeners on how to get away with killing protesters RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - GMDino - 09-03-2020 More at the link. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/kyle-rittenhouse-shooting-charges-criminal-complaint Quote:Authorities reviewed several cellphone recordings, including one that showed Rittenhouse running with a long gun, later identified as a Smith & Wesson AR-15-style .223 rifle with a magazine that held 30 rounds of ammunition. One of the shooting victims, Joseph Rosenbaum, followed Rittenhouse. A Daily Caller reporter, Richard McGinnis, followed behind. He also wasn't a medic. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-03-2020 (09-03-2020, 10:46 AM)GMDino Wrote: More at the link. Interesting that the criminal complaint basically sets out a self defense scenario. This contains nothing that wasn't covered in the two Donut Operator videos that were posted. Also, he had received first aid training as he works as a life guard. Whether that qualifies him as a "medic" is, I suppose, subjective. Either way it does not negate the fact that he brought first aid equipment with the intent to render aid when needed. Truly a monster. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - GMDino - 09-03-2020 More "help" from the POTUS.
RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - PhilHos - 09-03-2020 (09-03-2020, 10:33 AM)GMDino Wrote: Ah! More help! Not only is the headline inflammatory, it's just plan wrong. Nothing in the article supports the headline, but like other forms of American journalism, why care about accuracy when attacking the other side of the political aisle? RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - PhilHos - 09-03-2020 (09-03-2020, 11:12 AM)GMDino Wrote: More "help" from the POTUS. It just so nice to see people soooooooooooooooo concerned and critical of Trump's response to rioting and violence in the streets of various cities who don't give one God damn about the mayors and/or governors responses (or lack thereof). Oh, and I'm not talking about you, Dino, just the ones whose tweets you shared. I know YOU condemn the mayors and governors for the inaction and their handling of these violent riots. Granted, I haven't seen you post a condemnation of them, but I also know you're not stupid enough to blame all the rioting and violence on Trump. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - GMDino - 09-03-2020 (09-03-2020, 12:10 PM)PhilHos Wrote: It just so nice to see people soooooooooooooooo concerned and critical of Trump's response to rioting and violence in the streets of various cities who don't give one God damn about the mayors and/or governors responses (or lack thereof). I've said repeatedly for years that violence is never the answer. I think the looting and vandalism is not the majority of the events going on and I'd wager very few people doing the illegal activities have real ties to those doing the peaceful protesting. Trump doesn't help matters when rather than call for calm he attacks those he deems the trouble makers and encourages more outside agitators to enter the fray. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - GMDino - 09-03-2020 (09-03-2020, 11:52 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Not only is the headline inflammatory, it's just plan wrong. Nothing in the article supports the headline, but like other forms of American journalism, why care about accuracy when attacking the other side of the political aisle? It's fairly accurate when the host is saying "eh, you're gonna have to go and maybe you'll have to kill some people so make sure you have a good story when the police ask." Again, encouraging outside agitators isn't helping at all. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - PhilHos - 09-03-2020 (09-03-2020, 12:29 PM)GMDino Wrote: I've said repeatedly for years that violence is never the answer. I think the looting and vandalism is not the majority of the events going on and I'd wager very few people doing the illegal activities have real ties to those doing the peaceful protesting. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - PhilHos - 09-03-2020 (09-03-2020, 12:31 PM)GMDino Wrote: It's fairly accurate when the host is saying "eh, you're gonna have to go and maybe you'll have to kill some people so make sure you have a good story when the police ask." Except he doesn't say ANY of that. What he DID say is: "I don't advocate for some of the stuff that's starting to happen" "Act reasonably. You have to act reasonably." Yep, those are the words of someone telling people how to "get away with killing protestors" RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - GMDino - 09-03-2020 (09-03-2020, 12:52 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Except he doesn't say ANY of that. What he DID say is: You literally left off the rest of the quotes in in the link on this page: Quote:The question is when is government going to do something? Inaction is not a plan. You know what happens with inaction? People take the law into their own hands. Government is leaving them no choice. No choice. I don’t advocate for some of the stuff that’s starting to happen, but I am certainly done -- I am through with condemning it. I’m done with that. If he won't condemn it and believe they have to do it...he's endorsing it. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - GMDino - 09-04-2020 Weird. https://katu.com/news/local/man-suspected-in-deadly-shooting-of-right-wing-activist-in-portland-killed-sources-say Quote:PORTLAND, Ore. — A man suspected by police of fatally shooting a Trump supporter in downtown Portland last weekend was killed by law enforcement officials in the state of Washington on Thursday night when they tried to arrest him, the U.S. Marshals Service confirmed. Luckily we immediately know the suspect has a criminal past! Police are very good in letting us know the horrible past of the people the had to shoot. Equally as impressive is that the initial report says the police felt "threatened" but I guess we'll have to wait to ask the victim what happened, oh wait he's dead. Oh well! Edit to add Trump was tweeting about the suspect...13 minutes after he was shot and killed. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - GMDino - 09-04-2020 At least the officers are going after the rioters who are doing all the damage!
Ok, at least they are arresting the easiest possible people to pump up their numbers. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - jj22 - 09-04-2020 In the mean time Trump caravans are crossing state lines to start trouble and violence while threatening people with guns and racist remarks (even killing people while crossing back and forth over state lines past police and living to tell about it with the support of Trump and Christian Evangelicals who refuse to speak ill of him and some Christian groups having raised money to support his murder spree). What this proves is what we've been saying all along. The people causing the violence are coming across state lines, members of White supremacist groups and Trump supporter caravans, who come to protests to spark violence and physical altercations so conservative media can focus on that and Trump can make his commercials. Police won't kill these people tho. They can freely roam across states to murder and fly in the caravans of White supremacist Trump supporters at will. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - bfine32 - 09-04-2020 (09-03-2020, 12:29 PM)GMDino Wrote: I've said repeatedly for years that violence is never the answer. I think the looting and vandalism is not the majority of the events going on and I'd wager very few people doing the illegal activities have real ties to those doing the peaceful protesting. Not one part of that reply addressed inactivity by city Mayors and DAs in these towns, just more "Trump's doing it wrong". Portland really settled down after trump stopped doing it wrong with Federal assistance. Hell, I heard they celebrated the Mayor with a nice bonfire at his residence. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - jj22 - 09-04-2020 Not sure how you can claim Portland is settling down from what we are seeing and given the Trump caravans that have came in to murder and stir up violence. I think Trump may have been lying to you when he says he solved everything. We must remember Trump supporters have killed more Americans then ISIS and Al Queda (or "Antifa") in the last 10 years. If we could just get Trump supporters and Republicans to say something about them, yet as we see they remain quiet when it comes to their terrorist. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-04-2020 (09-04-2020, 08:37 AM)GMDino Wrote: Weird. Yeah, weird. It's almost like the violent rioter continued to be violent when police tried to arrest him. Oh wait, are you insinuating that the police just executed this guy because he's a far-left agitator? Quote:Luckily we immediately know the suspect has a criminal past! Police are very good in letting us know the horrible past of the people the had to shoot. Equally as impressive is that the initial report says the police felt "threatened" but I guess we'll have to wait to ask the victim what happened, oh wait he's dead. This is utterly precious coming from the guy who was judging Rittenhouse as a misguided youth because of pictures of him as a police explorer. It's almost like you revel in your hypocrisy. Don't worry, there will be more information released and there's no way you'll look foolish. Quote:Oh well! And? RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-04-2020 (09-04-2020, 09:58 AM)jj22 Wrote: In the mean time Trump caravans are crossing state lines to start trouble and violence while threatening people with guns and racist remarks (even killing people while crossing back and forth over state lines past police and living to tell about it with the support of Trump and Christian Evangelicals who refuse to speak ill of him and some Christian groups having raised money to support his murder spree). Trump threatened people with guns? What racist remarks did he make? If you're referring to Rittenhouse, all available evidence shows this was a clear case of self defense, so I have to assume you're talking about someone else. Quote:What this proves is what we've been saying all along. The people causing the violence are coming across state lines, members of White supremacist groups and Trump supporter caravans, who come to protests to spark violence and physical altercations so conservative media can focus on that and Trump can make his commercials. Actually most of the rioters in Kenosha were from out of state, but they weren't right wingers, at least there is no evidence of that. At least 175 people have been arrested during the recent civil unrest in Kenosha, Wis., with 102 having addresses listed outside of the city, according to numbers released by police on Sunday. https://www.foxnews.com/us/175-arrested-during-unrest-in-kenosha-including-104-outside-city-police-say Quote:Police won't kill these people tho. You're right, they didn't kill any of the 175 people in Kenosha they arrested who came from out of state. Quote:They can freely roam across states to murder and fly in the caravans of White supremacist Trump supporters at will. This is quite the claim. Source please. RE: More "largely peaceful" Portland protests - PhilHos - 09-04-2020 (09-03-2020, 01:58 PM)GMDino Wrote: You literally left off the rest of the quotes in in the link on this page: Believing people don't have a choice but to take the law into their own hands is NOT the same as endorsing people taking the law in their own hands NOR is it anywhere close to telling people HOW TO GET AWAY WITH KILLING PROTESTORS. |