(12-24-2019, 11:23 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: I want to preface this by saying I'm in on selecting Burrow. However, there is something that concerns me. I've been going through scouting reports on the guy as they come out and I've seen comparisons to Andy Dalton, Derek Carr and Mitch Trubisky. I've watched the guy play and he looks incredible but for scouts to be drawing these conclusions is a bit concerning.

(12-23-2019, 08:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Mixon is FAR from my favorite player. I've made that quite clear in the past.


But the fact that you're rolling with "fanboys can't stand when someone criticizes their favorite player" after your replies in this thread is hilarious. 

Hell, I believe Fred, Wyche, Luvnit. Shake, Crusader,..... are about to tell you to pump the brakes on the Andy defense. 

(12-24-2019, 11:48 AM)fredtoast Wrote: So if Dalton had won 4 of 18 instead of 2 then you would be okay with it.

Thanks for clearing that up, Rube.

(12-24-2019, 01:11 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Did I say that? I said name me the last great QB who went 2-16 over 18 games after their first 5 seasons. You failed to do that. Nice try though toasty. 

(12-24-2019, 01:11 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Did I say that? I said name me the last great QB who went 2-16 over 18 games after their first 5 seasons. You failed to do that. Nice try though toasty. 

(12-24-2019, 01:46 PM)spazz70 Wrote: Archie Manning went 1-15 in 1980 and then started off 1981 at 1-7...this was his 10th and 11th years in the league....that is 2-22 and was 2-16 at one point.... Not a GREAT QB but right in the mold of Andy Dalton....

(12-23-2019, 08:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Mixon is FAR from my favorite player. I've made that quite clear in the past.


But the fact that you're rolling with "fanboys can't stand when someone criticizes their favorite player" after your replies in this thread is hilarious. 

Hell, I believe Fred, Wyche, Luvnit. Shake, Crusader,..... are about to tell you to pump the brakes on the Andy defense. 

(12-24-2019, 01:11 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Did I say that? I said name me the last great QB who went 2-16 over 18 games after their first 5 seasons. You failed to do that. Nice try though toasty. 

(12-24-2019, 03:24 PM)OswaldsLegacy Wrote: You see... I wasn't actually talking about you.  I was talking about Nicomo and some of the rest, you know who they are.

The point I am making is this:

Dalton with weapons and a good supporting cast can do everything that Burrow can do.  Some of the replies about bringing Burrow in are "Yeah you have to build around him".  That is no different than what we have with Dalton.  Except that Burrows is younger.

There are some though, that actually hate Dalton, not as a person, but they don't like him as player at all.  You seem to be one of them, but you do it in a way that isn't entitled or dismissive.  Your post is more to pick on those that defend Andy at all cost, much like it may seem I am doing.  Does Dalton deserve criticism?  Yeah... why not.  To say that Dalton didn't play well is one thing... to claim he sucks and that our records since 2015 are his fault is ludicrous. 

So those posters that have been waiting for this slump to go after Andy and most of it is unfair.

Bring up Mixon on the other hand and his fanboys, who throw out his stats (while ignoring Dalton's), go crazy.  They will say his lack of production is due to the OLine... this same OLine that Dalton has?  HMMM....  So that is it?  Only the OLine?  Pretty much.

So I point out the OLine doesn't block well for Dalton and I am "giving excuses". 

Mixon is sick, and that is OK.  Dalton is sick and there is no excuse.

Now on to Mixon... I, like many, hated the pick.  Yes the video is horrid and no I don't except that he was "Young and dumb",  many young and dumb men don't punch women the way he did.  Glad that he has "stayed out of trouble" but really the is such a weak defense of the man.  However I was told by his supporters that we got a steal with him.  He was gonna be AP all over again.  Emmitt Smith better watch out because Mixon is coming...

3 seasons in and his stats are no better than any other RB in the league.  For a guy that did what he did and to get drafted and have the opportunities that he has the defense on drafting him was that he was gonna light the league up and be phenomenal.  He missed on that mark.  So while I was hoping that this POS person would benefit the team, even though I still don't think he should be playing, I have been let down on his playing.  We have had RBs run for more than 1168 on this team and I am not satisfied with his production.

(12-24-2019, 03:34 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Dalton has shown what he has, clearly he doesn't have upside like Burrow has.

Mixon has upside regardless if you liked the pick or not. God don't care who you were, he cares who you are and Mixon has
been a stellar man since becoming a Bengal and has even become a leader for us. Mixon's stats are no better than any other
RB in the league? Crazy talk.

I was a Dalton supporter, but it is time to move on to Burrow who has great pocket awareness unlike Dalton and is way more
accurate and as you note, much younger.

Either way, the O-line needs to get much better and if it does, both Mixon and Burrow should do well here.

(12-24-2019, 03:34 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I was a Dalton supporter, but it is time to move on to Burrow who has great pocket awareness unlike Dalton and is way more
accurate and as you note, much younger.

(12-24-2019, 03:40 PM)OswaldsLegacy Wrote: Really?  You can't name any other RBs in the league that can rush for 1168?  That is crazy talk.

(12-24-2019, 03:46 PM)depthchart Wrote: I also like Burrow's height at 6 foot 4 versus Dalton at 6 foot 2.

Burrow seems to take a commanding view of the Field.

(12-24-2019, 03:30 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I proved my point.

The difference between 2-16 and 4-14 is meaningless.

(12-24-2019, 03:30 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I proved my point.

The difference between 2-16 and 4-14 is meaningless.

(12-22-2019, 07:20 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Not sure how many CFL games we'll get to see. 

(12-24-2019, 04:04 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, would be nice to have a QB that can throw over the Line and not get balls knocked down so often.

(12-24-2019, 03:24 PM)OswaldsLegacy Wrote: You see... I wasn't actually talking about you.  I was talking about Nicomo and some of the rest, you know who they are.

The point I am making is this:

Dalton with weapons and a good supporting cast can do everything that Burrow can do.  Some of the replies about bringing Burrow in are "Yeah you have to build around him".  That is no different than what we have with Dalton.  Except that Burrows is younger.

There are some though, that actually hate Dalton, not as a person, but they don't like him as player at all.  You seem to be one of them, but you do it in a way that isn't entitled or dismissive.  Your post is more to pick on those that defend Andy at all cost, much like it may seem I am doing.  Does Dalton deserve criticism?  Yeah... why not.  To say that Dalton didn't play well is one thing... to claim he sucks and that our records since 2015 are his fault is ludicrous. 

So those posters that have been waiting for this slump to go after Andy and most of it is unfair.

Bring up Mixon on the other hand and his fanboys, who throw out his stats (while ignoring Dalton's), go crazy.  They will say his lack of production is due to the OLine... this same OLine that Dalton has?  HMMM....  So that is it?  Only the OLine?  Pretty much.

So I point out the OLine doesn't block well for Dalton and I am "giving excuses". 

Mixon is sick, and that is OK.  Dalton is sick and there is no excuse.

Now on to Mixon... I, like many, hated the pick.  Yes the video is horrid and no I don't except that he was "Young and dumb",  many young and dumb men don't punch women the way he did.  Glad that he has "stayed out of trouble" but really the is such a weak defense of the man.  However I was told by his supporters that we got a steal with him.  He was gonna be AP all over again.  Emmitt Smith better watch out because Mixon is coming...

3 seasons in and his stats are no better than any other RB in the league.  For a guy that did what he did and to get drafted and have the opportunities that he has the defense on drafting him was that he was gonna light the league up and be phenomenal.  He missed on that mark.  So while I was hoping that this POS person would benefit the team, even though I still don't think he should be playing, I have been let down on his playing.  We have had RBs run for more than 1168 on this team and I am not satisfied with his production.

(12-27-2019, 04:02 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: Let's remember who is doing the drafting here:  Mike Brown, Duke Tobin, and possibly Zac Taylor.  In their minds, 2019 might NOT have been "Bungle for Burrow" but rather "Tank for Tua," "Junk for Justin," or "Joke for Jalen."  It might even be "Choke for Chase."  

Based on recent draft strategy by the Bengals' Front Office, I'm ready for anything to come out of Roger Goodell's mouth on April 23 in Las Vegas where the Bengals are concerned.

(12-24-2019, 04:04 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, would be nice to have a QB that can throw over the Line and not get balls knocked down so often.