(07-21-2017, 02:44 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/a-republican-doj-memo-says-actually-no-trump-cant-pardon-himself/

In 1974, a Republican assistant AG wrote a memo stating that the President cannot pardon themselves

(07-21-2017, 02:38 PM)hollodero Wrote: ...or Sessions, right? A new Attorney General would not be recused, hence could also fire Mueller. Or am I getting this wrong.
If I don't, it would be a viable explanation for Trump's recent attacks on him.

Quote:(d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.

(07-21-2017, 04:26 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: If any of this occurred in an attempt to end the investigation and there was not an impeachment vote brought for obstruction in Congress, I would be shocked.

(07-21-2017, 04:26 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I would like to think that even our current batch of elected officials have enough integrity to not look past that.

(07-21-2017, 04:26 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: But then again, I know the Chair of the House Judiciary and he is a spineless weasel, so yeah.

(07-22-2017, 09:05 AM)hollodero Wrote: Can someone help me out with this fresh twitter gem?



...I have a couple questions. First, why think of that indeed, or tweet it for that matter. Second, what does "so far" mean? Third, how can (criminal) leaks be fake news at the same time?

The complete power to pardon. What a lousy superhero trait.

(07-21-2017, 03:02 PM)Dill Wrote: LOL, but in effect Congress could pardon him, or, per the 25th amendment, the vp could take charge and pardon him.

We are all learning so much about government under Trump.

Had Hillary won, we'd still be ignorant of the whole pardon issue, and more regarding executive power.

(07-22-2017, 09:10 AM)GMDino Wrote: Our POTUS watches FOX News.  They do a story.  He believes everything they say in the story (if it is good about him/bad against his enemies).

Then he tweets whatever comes to mind about it.  Usually in an attempt to "get his message out unfiltered" which then usually results in half a dozen paid employees of the US trying to explain what he REALLY meant anyway.

(07-22-2017, 09:40 AM)hollodero Wrote: Yeah I know all that, but even knowing all that this tweet stands out as being particularly bizarre. Maybe it's just me. But he seems on a good streak this morning.

(07-22-2017, 09:20 AM)ballsofsteel Wrote: Well its no wonder. His new admiring communication director "Mooch" said about trump, quote " He is the most knowledgeable politician in history".

(07-22-2017, 09:48 AM)hollodero Wrote: Oh, that's why he got the job. Showing his competence.

Really, this would be sad in Azerbaijan. Let alone in the US. I'm so sad for you guys.

When will Trump write poems that get printed in schoolbooks? How comes his birthday isn't a national holiday yet. And where's the golden statue of him next to the statue of liberty, but bigger?

(07-22-2017, 09:48 AM)hollodero Wrote: Oh, that's why he got the job. Showing his competence.

Really, this would be sad in Azerbaijan. Let alone in the US. I'm so sad for you guys.

When will Trump write poems that get printed in schoolbooks? How comes his birthday isn't a national holiday yet. And where's the golden statue of him next to the statue of liberty, but bigger?

(07-22-2017, 09:55 AM)michaelsean Wrote: More Trump bashing for no reason. He's been in office 7 months. No way you amass the gold and build the statue in under two years. Maybe a year and a half it Trump already has an 800 foot mold of himself made up.

(07-22-2017, 09:55 AM)michaelsean Wrote: More Trump bashing for no reason.  He's been in office 7 months. No way you amass the gold and build the statue in under two years. Maybe a year and a half it Trump already has an 800 foot mold of himself made up.

(07-21-2017, 04:26 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Now, earlier in part 600, the code specifies acting AG in the case of AG recusal. With the recusal of Sessions, it made Rosenstein the acting AG for the Russia investigations. I am not enough of a legal eagle to tell you whether the appointment of a new a AG would automatically remove Rosenstein as acting AG for the Russia investigations, so that would be the big conundrum. 
If any of this occurred in an attempt to end the investigation and there was not an impeachment vote brought for obstruction in Congress, I would be shocked. I would like to think that even our current batch of elected officials have enough integrity to not look past that. But then again, I know the Chair of the House Judiciary and he is a spineless weasel, so yeah.

(07-24-2017, 10:40 PM)hollodero Wrote: So now Trump calls Sessions "beleaguered", some leaks appear... and your Senate will be in recess soon, allowing Trump to nominate a new AG after Sessions finally reads the memo like intended. A new AG that possibly can kill this Mueller thing. Doesn't it start to look like that?

A negative answer could only be "nah, too obvious". Trump always was pretty obvious, though.
Just a question: Would anyone still on "leave Trump alone, look at Hillary..."-train jump said train if that events were to occur as described?