(12-25-2017, 01:12 PM)PDub80 Wrote: People's minds are going to explode. I thought the current disgruntled fan narrative is that the Bengals only draft 1st round busts????

Seriously, though, I'm pretty sure WJ3 could have been doing this since week 3. #Stickbyourvets. Come to think of it, I am going to tweet Trump right after this about putting Marvin in charge of Veteran benefits. Every vet will have a life time job under Marvin.

(12-25-2017, 01:21 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: You're missing my point.

Those guys were on-field intelligent leaders too.

Iloka is missing Nelson.  It really shows.  DreK is far too immature even being a vet.

Sorry if you don't think they're valued experience is missed.

(12-25-2017, 12:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-cincinnati-bengals-26-detroit-lions-17

(12-25-2017, 03:24 PM)corpjet Wrote: Yet our idiot coach decided to still play PacMan............what a joke............

(12-26-2017, 01:41 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Jackson is the real deal. He leads all CB's this year (with at least 40 targets) in lowest completion % allowed at 36.6. The next closest is Casey Hayward at 43.7. 

He is one of the best young corners that I've seen in years at playing the receiver, positioning himself and making adjustments when the ball is in the air...things he also excelled at in college. 

I think he has the talent to eventually be a multiple time Pro Bowler. 

(12-26-2017, 01:08 AM)Hammerstripes Wrote: He was out last year with a torn pec.

(12-27-2017, 03:48 AM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: I thought that he was ok to come back but they opted for Peerman instead.  IDK, maybe they wanted to play it safe with the injury.  

(12-27-2017, 03:48 AM)Bilbo Saggins Wrote: I thought that he was ok to come back but they opted for Peerman instead.  IDK, maybe they wanted to play it safe with the injury.  

(12-25-2017, 10:24 PM)jj22 Wrote: Coyle should get some credit for the growth of both WJIII and Dennard. Along with his prior work with Pac in his prime down to Hall, Joseph, Crocker, Tory James and Deltha O'neal etc. He's good with cb's. Struggles to develop Safeties. Dre's an outlier for him as it relates to cb development (and he had him playing good enough to get paid last season). And he knows Zimmers scheme. If Guenther stays, I see Coyle staying.

(12-27-2017, 03:36 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I gotta disagree with this. Coyle was terrible before he left and once he left, Zim played man and our DBs excelled. Now Coyle is back and we play zone again and and teams drive up and down like it's a Sunday church drive..

(12-27-2017, 07:34 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Some of those deficiencies in zone are Safety/Linebacker play as well as CB.

Our safeties just aren't very good since Nelson left.

Iloka dropped off a lot. 

I'm worried by Williams and the fact he has a lengthy contract...  but at least not much dead cap dollars in the future as is drops drastically.

Linebackers in coverage have always been a problem here.

That's why outside of O-Line they really need to focus on LB & FS in the upper rounds(of course DT/DE should always be looked at every draft).

We really really need a ball hawking FS.  A few linebackers who can fall into coverage too.

(12-27-2017, 08:06 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Not disagreeing with what you are saying. I would settle for a LB that can come up and stuff the run also.
Agree about Williams, he's no Nelson for sure. Coyle was a bad coach before and since he has come back our back end of the defense has regressed.

(12-26-2017, 04:10 AM)Thundercloud Wrote: It has been perfectly obvious from very early on that Jackson was a rare talent who should have been starting right away.  It took far too long for him to be getting sufficient snaps.  Typical.