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RE: Trump's alleged affair - Johnny Cupcakes - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 04:52 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Sorta like the pro- women stance of Democrats in the 1990s, yet they still run with it. I was playing with action figures in the 90s, and I'm lost by your reference. You could clue me in, but I probably still won't care about what their stance was before I was even old enough to vote. RE: Trump's alleged affair - bfine32 - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 10:48 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: So, one thing of note in all of this is that the Trump supporters can easily get by with not caring about this. They blamed Hillary for Bill's stepping out on her during the campaign, so this would have to be Melania's fault using that logic. Correct me if I am wrong on this, but I recall certain posters blaming Hillary for Bill's transgressions. I don't think most people "blamed Hillary for Bill's actions". Seems more were trouble by her attitude and actions toward his accusers . Almost like her actions enabled this patriarchal, misogynistic culture that we don't live in. RE: Trump's alleged affair - Belsnickel - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 05:57 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I don't think most people "blamed Hillary for Bill's actions". Seems more were trouble by her attitude and actions toward his accusers . Almost like her actions enabled this patriarchal, misogynistic culture that we don't live in. I'm too tired to go quote hunting, but there were at least two individuals that specifically blamed Hillary, on this board, for Bill's actions. I know that there are (fair) criticisms of her in her actions responding to it all, but that wasn't all of it. WTS, doesn't really matter at this point, anyway. The types of people to engage int hat kind of rhetoric aren't self-aware enough to recognize the situation. RE: Trump's alleged affair - Dill - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 04:52 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Sorta like the pro- women stance of Democrats in the 1990s, yet they still run with it. ???? These seems more whataboutism, but I don't get it. RE: Trump's alleged affair - bfine32 - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 06:07 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I'm too tired to go quote hunting, but there were at least two individuals that specifically blamed Hillary, on this board, for Bill's actions. I know that there are (fair) criticisms of her in her actions responding to it all, but that wasn't all of it. Suppose I got confused when you stated Trump Supporters blamed Hillary; I assume you meant a couple extremists. Unless your intent was to paint with broad brush. RE: Trump's alleged affair - fredtoast - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 07:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Suppose I got confused when you stated Trump Supporters blamed Hillary; I assume you meant a couple extremists. Unless your intent was to paint with broad brush. Well you also have to include everyone that did not call out and condemn these "extremists". That's not painting with a broad brush is it? RE: Trump's alleged affair - fredtoast - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 04:52 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Sorta like the pro- women stance of Democrats in the 1990s, yet they still run with it. What does this even mean? RE: Trump's alleged affair - bfine32 - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 08:10 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Well you also have to include everyone that did not call out and condemn these "extremists". That's not painting with a broad brush is it?To be honest; I don't recall it being enough of a thing to call out (matter of fact I don't recall it at all), that folks blamed Hillary for Bill being unfaithful. I do recall many blaming her for shaming the accusers and enabling his actions. Perhaps you, Matt, and others remember a movement blaming Hillary for Bill's action, I simply remember them condemning her reaction to them. WTS, anyone that blamed Hillary for Bill sexually molesting women, raping, of taking advantage of naive women are absolutely clueless. But anyone that did not condemn Hillary's reaction to Bill's actions condone such an environment RE: Trump's alleged affair - Belsnickel - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 07:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Suppose I got confused when you stated Trump Supporters blamed Hillary; I assume you meant a couple extremists. Unless your intent was to paint with broad brush. It was more than a couple of extremists I saw this from, but it is a broad brush. It is why I specify supporters instead of voters, though. RE: Trump's alleged affair - GMDino - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 06:07 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I'm too tired to go quote hunting, but there were at least two individuals that specifically blamed Hillary, on this board, for Bill's actions. I know that there are (fair) criticisms of her in her actions responding to it all, but that wasn't all of it. http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Obama-Shames-Voters?pid=439166#pid439166 Quote:It's like none of them give women the credit for not voting for another woman who couldn't even keep her husband faithful to her. Why would any woman vote for another woman who isn't strong enough to keep her family together?http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Obama-Shames-Voters?pid=439185#pid439185 Quote:That women do not like other women who can't keep their family in order?http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Obama-Shames-Voters?pid=439228#pid439228 Quote:If she can't manage her home how can she manage a nation?http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Obama-Shames-Voters?pid=439400#pid439400 Quote:Hillary stayed married not because she desperately wanted to keep her family together. She stayed because it helped her politically.http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Obama-Shames-Voters?pid=439437#pid439437 Quote:Ok we will go with that being false. She didn't stay for her career. She just stayed because she didn't have the confidence to break away. The same way a battered woman stays with her abuser.http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Obama-Shames-Voters?pid=439442#pid439442 Quote:When someone hurts you there are only two options. Remove that person from your life or keep them in your life and accept the shame of not being able to do anything about it.....http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Obama-Shames-Voters?pid=439559#pid439559 Quote:Hiding behind nuance is pretty weak. Especially when nuance exists to everything. THe question was put forth about why women were "sexist" against hillary.... explaining her weak character is valid. Part of that weak character is allowing your husband to cheat for decades. That's fine for a kept woman who just lives a life. But she wanted to lead the free world. RE: Trump's alleged affair - bfine32 - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 08:48 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: It was more than a couple of extremists I saw this from, but it is a broad brush. It is why I specify supporters instead of voters, though. Meh, supporters may be a broader brush than voter as many patriots pledge their support to POTUS; regardless if they voted for him or not. But if you, Fred, and others recall this being the topic instead of Hillary's reaction to Bill's actions; then we can only take you at your word. Honestly, I do not recall anyone (I sure there were perhaps an insignificant few) blaming Hillary for Bill molesting women. RE: Trump's alleged affair - Dill - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 08:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Obama-Shames-Voters?pid=439166#pid439166 LOL "hiding behind nuance." ![]() Haven't see a lot of that in this forum. RE: Trump's alleged affair - bfine32 - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 08:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Obama-Shames-Voters?pid=439166#pid439166How many people said those quotes you took time to find? RE: Trump's alleged affair - michaelsean - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 09:41 PM)bfine32 Wrote: How many people said those quotes you took time to find? I’m saying between one and seven. ![]() RE: Trump's alleged affair - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 08:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Obama-Shames-Voters?pid=439166#pid439166 Using Lucie to prove a point about a larger group is like using you to do so. You're both extremists that should only be seen as representing yourselves. RE: Trump's alleged affair - GMDino - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 10:11 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Using Lucie to prove a point about a larger group is like using you to do so. You're both extremists that should only be seen as representing yourselves. Wasn't my point. I shared to show what Matt was talking about. Thank you! RE: Trump's alleged affair - Belsnickel - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 10:11 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Using Lucie to prove a point about a larger group is like using you to do so. You're both extremists that should only be seen as representing yourselves. Eh, he is fairly reflective of the larger group of Trump supporters I interact with. And by supporters, I mean those that voted for Trump because they actually saw him as the best candidate overall, not just because he was slightly less objectionable than Clinton or because he had the R next to his name. RE: Trump's alleged affair - bfine32 - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 10:14 PM)GMDino Wrote: Wasn't my point. I shared to show what Matt was talking about. Seems perhaps you shared to show what bfine was talking about (a few extremists) instead of what Matt was talking about (Trump Supporters). You can prove Matt correct by giving the wide array of posters that posted those quotes or you can proof bfine right by not doing so. RE: Trump's alleged affair - GMDino - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 10:18 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Seems perhaps you shared to show what bfine was talking about (a few extremists) instead of what Matt was talking about (Trump Supporters). No, Matt didn't want to find quotes. I found lots. If I have more time I'll find more and then you'll be happy! I just know it! (Sorry I didn't speak in the third person....) RE: Trump's alleged affair - bfine32 - 01-18-2018 (01-18-2018, 10:33 PM)GMDino Wrote: No, Matt didn't want to find quotes. I found lots. I admit I was wrong. I said you could prove bfine right by not replying; while you actually proved bfine right by replying. |