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RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - ballsofsteel - 09-12-2018 (09-12-2018, 07:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Pat pretty much said it all in his self-proclaimed thread ender. There are those of all Political leaning that cross the line. The problem is around here and nationwide folks try to paint with too broad a brush.Meh Fake news. Definition of a child: Biologically, a child (plural: children) is a human being between the stages of birth and puberty. Wiki. How can you abort a child once its born? Ignorance is bliss. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - fredtoast - 09-12-2018 (09-12-2018, 07:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The rub comes when one side tries to claim morale superiority. Yep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Majority RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - bfine32 - 09-12-2018 (09-12-2018, 08:00 PM)ballsofsteel Wrote: Meh Missing the point I was making aside Look at the very first definition according to Websters: Definition of child plural children play \ˈchil-drən, -dərn\ 1 a : an unborn or recently born person https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child What is this fake news you speak of? RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - PhilHos - 09-13-2018 (09-12-2018, 10:24 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Yep To be fair, he didn't say moral superiority; he said moralE superiority. It's 2 different things ![]() RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - GMDino - 09-13-2018 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/13/anonymous-new-york-times-op-ed-ann-coulter-suspects-jared-kushner/1290048002/ Quote:Was Jared Kushner behind the anonymous New York Times op-ed? Ann Coulter thinks so ![]() Quote:Apparently, no fan of the president's son-in-law, Coulter's new book, "Resistance Is Futile! How the Trump-Hating Left Lost Its Collective Mind," includes a hypothetical scenario where Trump has Kushner shot. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - michaelsean - 09-13-2018 (09-13-2018, 04:35 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/13/anonymous-new-york-times-op-ed-ann-coulter-suspects-jared-kushner/1290048002/ Well if that dirtball is the "adult in the room" it's worse than I thought. But you may have put this in the wrong thread. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - fredtoast - 09-13-2018 (09-13-2018, 04:35 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/13/anonymous-new-york-times-op-ed-ann-coulter-suspects-jared-kushner/1290048002/ Good old Ann. When in doubt blame the Jew. ![]() [/url] Ann Coulter ✔ @AnnCoulter How many f---ing Jews do these people think there are in the United States? 11:05 PM - Sep 16, 2015 ![]() Ann Coulter ✔ @AnnCoulter [url=https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter] Cruz, Huckabee Rubio all mentioned ISRAEL in their response to: "What will AMERICA look like after you are president." RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - ballsofsteel - 09-13-2018 (09-12-2018, 10:38 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Missing the point I was making asideYou left out 2A. a : a young person especially between infancy and youth Complete contradiction. How can a child be unborn? Come on man. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - michaelsean - 09-13-2018 (09-13-2018, 06:10 PM)ballsofsteel Wrote: You left out 2A. Do you think something magic happens the minute before birth to the minute after birth? At some point, and when will be debated forever, that’s a child. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - bfine32 - 09-13-2018 (09-13-2018, 06:10 PM)ballsofsteel Wrote: You left out 2A. Could be why I stated the very first definition. Didn't make it down to 2A. I didn't dispute your assertion that child CAN refer to: a young person especially between infancy and youth. But somehow you can dispute my assertion that a child CAN refer to: an unborn or recently born person. Now, does that make any sense? RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - fredtoast - 09-13-2018 (09-13-2018, 08:03 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Do you think something magic happens the minute before birth to the minute after birth? At some point, and when will be debated forever, that’s a child. No. That is why the current law makes abortions in the third trimester illegal except for medical emergencies or to protect the life of the mother. The woman has a right to abort the child up to the point that it can live without her. Before that it is not an individual that is entitled to rights superior to the mother. Only individuals are entitled to individual rights and a fetus that can not live without the mother is not an individual. The discussion about "When life begins" has no bearing on the legal issue of granting individual rights. You can't take away a woman's individual right to make decisions about her own body when there is no other individual to consider. Someday when technology advances to the point where we can remove fertilized eggs and raise them outside of the mother then we can look at changing the law. But right now the mother is the only individual to consider. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - michaelsean - 09-14-2018 (09-13-2018, 09:04 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No. That is why the current law makes abortions in the third trimester illegal except for medical emergencies or to protect the life of the mother. I wasn’t discussing the legality just his statement. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - PhilHos - 09-14-2018 (09-13-2018, 09:04 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You can't take away a woman's individual right to make decisions about her own body when there is no other individual to consider. Yes you can. A woman can't inject her body with narcotics. A woman under certain ages cannot damage their lungs with smoking or their livers with drinking too much alcohol. A woman also cannot end her own life, legally speaking. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - bfine32 - 09-14-2018 (09-13-2018, 09:04 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No. That is why the current law makes abortions in the third trimester illegal except for medical emergencies or to protect the life of the mother. Actually there are a minimum of 3 people to consider; unfortunately current law only considers one. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - fredtoast - 09-14-2018 (09-14-2018, 02:14 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Yes you can. A woman can't inject her body with narcotics. 1. The laws against narcotic usage are not about the user. They are about the impact on the rest of society. 2. A woman under certain age can not make the decision to have an abortion. 3. It is not against the law to commit suicide. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - fredtoast - 09-14-2018 (09-14-2018, 02:37 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Actually there are a minimum of 3 people to consider; unfortunately current law only considers one. A man does not have a right over a woman's body. A fetus is not an "individual" until the third trimester. So that leaves only one individual who has rights over the woman's body. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - bfine32 - 09-14-2018 (09-14-2018, 02:51 PM)fredtoast Wrote: A man does not have a right over a woman's body.But it would be cool if he had some rights regarding his unborn child wouldn't it? Isn't the child half his? So the woman has the right to stop the child from becoming an individual. Seems kinda barbaric doesn't it? Anywho, nobody is going to change their views on abortion. We have kicked that can down the road too many time here. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - fredtoast - 09-14-2018 "So I assume if the law is changed you'll support it because it's the law." Depends on how the law is drafted, but I assume I would. Personally I don't see the government getting into the business of raising test tube babies that no one wants, but in cases where someone else is willing to raise the baby I don't see any need to kill it. RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - fredtoast - 09-14-2018 (09-14-2018, 02:57 PM)bfine32 Wrote: But it would be cool if he had some rights regarding his unborn child wouldn't it? Isn't the child half his?. Sure. Give him a right to take the fetus when it is removed from the mother. I have no problem with that. BUt what is he going to do with an dead fetus? (09-14-2018, 02:57 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So the woman has the right to stop the child from becoming an individual. Seems kind a barbaric doesn't it? No more barbaric than taking away a womans' liberty to make her own decisions about her own body. Remember "Liberty is an inalienable right" RE: Why are so many on the left vile and evil? - PhilHos - 09-14-2018 (09-14-2018, 02:45 PM)fredtoast Wrote: 1. The laws against narcotic usage are not about the user. They are about the impact on the rest of society. 1. Doesn't matter. You said that we can't take away a woman's right to do whatever she wants to her body, but the fact remains that we already do. 2. For the most part, this is true, but this just reinforces my point so thanks. ![]() 3. That's not what I've heard but I'm not going to argue. |