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RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Belsnickel - 04-11-2024 (04-11-2024, 11:02 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The coverage of the trucker protests by the CBC would be a prime example of this. The CBC was not a news organization during that event, it was a mouthpiece for the government's positions and talking points. People noticed this. The BBC has it's issues as well, but I wouldn't call them a mouthpiece for the government, certainly not the Torries. Eh, the views of the BBC bias flips all the time. I have seen them accused of bias in both directions in recent years. Peter Osborne lambasted the BBC years ago for left-leaning bias, and now accuses them of conservative bias. I'll be honest, the bias I always have concerns with when it comes to news media is institutional bias, and that is what state funding tends to enable most of all. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-11-2024 (04-11-2024, 11:10 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Eh, the views of the BBC bias flips all the time. I have seen them accused of bias in both directions in recent years. Peter Osborne lambasted the BBC years ago for left-leaning bias, and now accuses them of conservative bias. I'll be honest, the bias I always have concerns with when it comes to news media is institutional bias, and that is what state funding tends to enable most of all. That's why I said they had their issues, but were not a mouthpiece for the government. Now, the CBC deserves that label and then some. Some of the most garbage reporting I've ever seen. Ingsoc couldn't have asked for anything better. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-16-2024 The author of the piece in OP has been officially suspended for five days by NPR for publishing the article. https://www.npr.org/2024/04/16/1244962042/npr-editor-uri-berliner-suspended-essay In presenting Berliner's suspension Thursday afternoon, the organization told the editor he had failed to secure its approval for outside work for other news outlets, as is required of NPR journalists. It called the letter a "final warning," saying Berliner would be fired if he violated NPR's policy again. Berliner is a dues-paying member of NPR's newsroom union but says he is not appealing the punishment. On Friday, CEO Maher stood up for the network's mission and the journalism, taking issue with Berliner's critique, though never mentioning him by name. Among her chief issues, she said Berliner's essay offered "a criticism of our people on the basis of who we are." Berliner took great exception to that, saying she had denigrated him. He said that he supported diversifying NPR's workforce to look more like the U.S. population at large. She did not address that in a subsequent private exchange he shared with me for this story. (An NPR spokesperson declined further comment.) I'm of two minds here. One if he broke company policy then he deserves to face consequences. But even within that, a five day suspension without pay for a first offense is rather heavy (I am obviously assuming it's a first offense). In my department progressive discipline is the rule. Unless an action is egregious, e.g. lying in a report, falsifying evidence, committing a crime, working another job while on the clock, etc. you're going to go through the steps of discipline, and suspension is right before termination. On a scale of 0-10, suspension is a 9. I also have to think that if his piece was praising NPR then he would not have been punished nearly as severely, if at all. The misrepresentation of his position by the new CEO (I would think deliberate) also lends some credence to this possibility. While the suspension can be justified under policy the severity of it rather reeks of revenge for airing the organization's dirty laundry. I would certainly not go so far as to call this man a whistle blower, but given the public funded nature of NPR I think he has more leeway in exposing this type of ideological partisanship in his workplace. An interesting response either way. How NPR lost the public's trust - pally - 04-16-2024 (04-16-2024, 01:01 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The author of the piece in OP has been officially suspended for five days by NPR for publishing the article. He is a member of the Union, punishments are usually spelled out in their contract Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-16-2024 (04-16-2024, 01:28 PM)pally Wrote: He is a member of the Union, punishments are usually spelled out in their contract Gee, guess what, so am I and it works the way I explained above. Thanks for the contribution. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - StoneTheCrow - 04-16-2024 (04-16-2024, 01:01 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The author of the piece in OP has been officially suspended for five days by NPR for publishing the article. Punished. His crime? Reporting the wrong truth as a journalist. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - pally - 04-17-2024 (04-16-2024, 01:36 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Gee, guess what, so am I and it works the way I explained above. Thanks for the contribution. You speculated that his punishment was harsh without knowing the details if his contract or his personal record. He chose not to contest the punishment. Did you stop to think that he didn’t because the actual punishment wasn’t harsh based on his circumstances? RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-17-2024 (04-17-2024, 07:56 AM)pally Wrote: You speculated that his punishment was harsh without knowing the details if his contract or his personal record. Yes, speculated. I said as much in my post. You countered that he's in a union so things wouldn't likely work the way I described. I countered that I'm in a union and it works exactly the way I described. Quote:He chose not to contest the punishment. Did you stop to think that he didn’t because the actual punishment wasn’t harsh based on his circumstances? No who's speculating? It's certainly possible. It's also possible that he just wants to move on with his life. It's also possible that he has no faith in the appeals process. We could do this all day. Another point though. He was suspended for not getting permission for publishing an article outside of NPR. Do you think he receives a similar punishment, a five day suspension, if he wrote an article about his kid's sports team for their local newspaper? Somehow I doubt it, and that's the crux of my point. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-17-2024 Speculation is over. Berliner resigned today. https://www.npr.org/2024/04/17/1245283076/npr-editor-uri-berliner-resigns-ceo-katherine-maher "I am resigning from NPR, a great American institution where I have worked for 25 years," Berliner wrote in an email to CEO Katherine Maher. "I respect the integrity of my colleagues and wish for NPR to thrive and do important journalism. But I cannot work in a newsroom where I am disparaged by a new CEO whose divisive views confirm the very problems at NPR I cite in my Free Press essay." And now you know why so few people speak up. Seems like the legacy media won't give up the ghost until they are rendered completely irrelevant. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-17-2024 BTW, looking back through the thread I can't find a single left leaning poster aside from Bel even attempting to engage with the actual substance of the thread. Rather telling. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Dill - 04-17-2024 (04-17-2024, 05:52 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: BTW, looking back through the thread I can't find a single left leaning poster aside from Bel even attempting to engage with the actual substance of the thread. Rather telling. You "knew" Bels would be the first. Then you figured out that Berliner would not likely have been punished severely if he had not publicly attacked the integrity of the NPR's editorial staff. Who could top that? Going back through the thread, I can't find a single right-leaning poster even attempting to engage my take on journalistic standards. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-17-2024 (04-17-2024, 06:31 PM)Dill Wrote: You "knew" Bels would be the first. Yup. Quote: Then you figured out that Berliner would not likely have been punished severely if he had not publicly attacked the integrity of the NPR's editorial staff. Who could top that? You disagree? Quote:Going back through the thread, I can't find a single right-leaning poster even attempting to engage my take on journalistic standards. That's because having a conversation with you is like pleasuring yourself with sandpaper. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - StoneTheCrow - 04-17-2024 (04-17-2024, 07:01 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Yup. The integrity of the publicly funded organization with 87 registered democrats and zero registered republicans in editorial positions, and a Biden supporting CEO with a history of tweets that would have the likes of Kathy Griffin and Keith Olbermann clapping like a seal must not be questioned. You are, under no circumstances, to give away the game. Throw him overboard! RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Dill - 04-17-2024 (04-17-2024, 07:01 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Yup. Looks like a dodge, right after a demand people engage with "substance." From the censor who hates censorship from "the left." RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-17-2024 (04-17-2024, 07:24 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: The integrity of the publicly funded organization with 87 registered democrats and zero registered republicans in editorial positions, and a Biden supporting CEO with a history of tweets that would have the likes of Kathy Griffin and Keith Olbermann clapping like a seal must not be questioned. Indeed. (04-17-2024, 07:42 PM)Dill Wrote: Looks like a dodge, right after a demand people engage with "substance." Proving my point in one post. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Dill - 04-17-2024 (04-17-2024, 07:49 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Indeed. Everything proves your "points." That's why they are empty. Someone who complains about lack of serious engagement should stop skipping the opportunity every time it presents itself. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-18-2024 (04-17-2024, 11:14 PM)Dill Wrote: Everything proves your "points." That's why they are empty. Only when it involves you and your circuitous futility. Kisses. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Dill - 04-18-2024 (04-17-2024, 05:52 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: BTW, looking back through the thread I can't find a single left leaning poster aside from Bel even attempting to engage with the actual substance of the thread. Rather telling. Chase them away with insults and quippery, then complain they didn't show. "Rather telling." (04-17-2024, 07:01 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: That's because having a conversation with you is like pleasuring yourself with sandpaper. (04-18-2024, 01:38 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Only when it involves you and your circuitous futility. RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - SunsetBengal - 04-23-2024 I figure that this belongs in here. It seems that not only Uri Berliner, but also Larry Sanger cofounder of Wikipedia also has some very revealing comments, as they apply to Katherine Maher. Yikes, she seems rather dangerous to anyone who values and enjoys their 1st Amendment rights. https://www.city-journal.org/article/wikipedia-co-founder-shocked-by-npr-chief-katherine-maher Quote:Larry Sanger remembers the promise of the web. He co-founded Wikipedia in 2001, with the hope that it could sustain a “free and open” Internet—a place where information, dissent, and creativity could thrive. At Wikipedia, he proposed a system of rules that encouraged users to “avoid bias” and maintain a “neutral point of view.” RE: How NPR lost the public's trust - Belsnickel - 04-23-2024 (04-23-2024, 10:29 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I figure that this belongs in here. It seems that not only Uri Berliner, but also Larry Sanger cofounder of Wikipedia also has some very revealing comments, as they apply to Katherine Maher. Yikes, she seems rather dangerous to anyone who values and enjoys their 1st Amendment rights. Very interesting. Sounds like she is someone that may not need to be involved in media. |