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RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - xxlt - 06-14-2015 (06-12-2015, 11:45 AM)RICHMONDBENGAL_07 Wrote: Absolutely can not take that dude seriously. Not only do I not want him as the next president, I wouldn't want him coming near me as a physician Wow, I didn't know he was a doctor, just that he was an idiot. With him and Rand Paul they have some how managed to take my faith in medicine to a new low, and that wasn't easy. Only two guys, but does it say something about the type of people attracted to the medical field? RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - GMDino - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 07:22 PM)xxlt Wrote: Wow, I didn't know he was a doctor, just that he was an idiot. With him and Rand Paul they have some how managed to take my faith in medicine to a new low, and that wasn't easy. Only two guys, but does it say something about the type of people attracted to the medical field? From what I have read Carson is an excellent doctor. He just has some bad/crazy ideas about life in general that would make him an awful President. Paul couldn't get board certified...so he created his own board and certified himself. ![]() RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - bfine32 - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 07:22 PM)xxlt Wrote: Wow, I didn't know he was a doctor, just that he was an idiot. With him and Rand Paul they have some how managed to take my faith in medicine to a new low, and that wasn't easy. Only two guys, but does it say something about the type of people attracted to the medical field? Actually at 33, he became the youngest major division director in Johns Hopkins history as director of pediatric neurosurgery and is the foremost expert and ground breaker in the separation on twins conjoined at the skull . Did you ever wonder what those initials DR meant at the beginning of his name? No doubt he is the idiot. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - bfine32 - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 07:28 PM)GMDino Wrote: From what I have read Carson is an excellent doctor. He just has some bad/crazy ideas about life in general that would make him an awful President. Actually it wasn't the fact that Paul couldn't get certified (He actually passed the Board on his 1st attempt). He just disagreed with the Board giving older doctors a lifetime exemption and not requiring them to re-certify. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - GMDino - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 07:41 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Actually at 33, he became the youngest major division director in Johns Hopkins history as director of pediatric neurosurgery and is the foremost expert and ground breaker in the separation on twins conjoined at the skull . Did you ever wonder what those initials DR meant at the beginning of his name? No doubt he is the idiot. Great surgeon...still an idiot. (06-14-2015, 07:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Actually it wasn't the fact that Paul couldn't get certified (He actually passed the Board on his 1st attempt). He just disagreed with the Board giving older doctors a lifetime exemption and not requiring them to re-certify. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-rand-paul-tried-to-lead-an-eye-doctors-rebellion/2015/02/01/010994da-9cd6-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html Quote:The letters came from a young ophthalmologist in Kentucky. He was recruiting for an eye doctors’ rebellion. Seems like Mr. Paul wanted special rules for himself. Odd. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - bfine32 - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 07:59 PM)GMDino Wrote: Great surgeon...still an idiot. Not sure how that supports the claim that he could't get certified. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - GMDino - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 08:02 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Not sure how that supports the claim that he could't get certified. Sorry. Not "couldn't"...although I never read where he passed the board...but "wouldn't" because he wanted special rights. Again, odd. ![]() Edit: I must admit TommC/Larry/bfine you are good at picking out one wrong word and making it appear the entire argument is wrong. If there was an award for wanting each response worded perfectly so you could understand it I'd give it to you. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - bfine32 - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 08:34 PM)GMDino Wrote: Sorry. Not "couldn't"...although I never read where he passed the board...but "wouldn't" because he wanted special rights. So disputing the claim that Rand Paul couldn't get certified is "picking out one wrong word" but not showing that the entire argument is wrong? Kinda strict guidelines you have there. You could have just said 'Please don't refute anything I say". RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - GMDino - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 08:45 PM)bfine32 Wrote: So disputing the claim that Rand Paul couldn't get certified is "picking out one wrong word" but not showing that the entire argument is wrong? No, no...disputing "couldn't" (which I was wrong about) and "wouldn't" (which shows he did indeed form a board to certify himself). You got one word right. Congrats! RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - bfine32 - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 08:49 PM)GMDino Wrote: No, no...disputing "couldn't" (which I was wrong about) and "wouldn't" (which shows he did indeed form a board to certify himself). Actually "wouldn't" is wrong as well; as he did. But yeah, I only got one word right; no doubt your argument was rock solid otherwise. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - BmorePat87 - 06-14-2015 Wasn't Paul's board harder to get certified with, as in his group expected doctors to be even more qualified in order to practice medicine? Sounds solid. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - GMDino - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 09:30 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Wasn't Paul's board harder to get certified with, as in his group expected doctors to be even more qualified in order to practice medicine? Sounds solid. In the article I linked above they said it was more in depth...but also an open-book type test. Paul even passed it himself! ![]() RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - Bmoreblitz - 06-14-2015 One has to wonder what happened to Ben Carson? It would be hard to argue against the guy being brilliant but some of his beliefs are so questionable. He speaks a lot like Palin at times but then he this great surgeon? He definitely isn't a politician; a surgeon, yes, a public leader, no. My best guess is he is one of those individuals, who regardless of their success, still feels inadequate and thinks being President will fill his cup finally. He envies Obama for his great success and needs to outdo him so he grabs onto the anti-obama wing of American politics and suddenly is a Tea Pattie darling. I can't believe he actually believes some of the things he says. Another idea is that is he another Palin and sees the money to be made by making idiotic right wing red meat statements. Write a book or two wrapped in red, white and blue colors with a fierce looking Bald Eagle on the cover and whalla, he is making millions. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - BmorePat87 - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 09:40 PM)GMDino Wrote: In the article I linked above they said it was more in depth...but also an open-book type test. He must be a good doctor if he passed the first board on his first try and then his own. Glad he went the politician route before running for president, unlike Carson. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - GMDino - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 08:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Actually "wouldn't" is wrong as well; as he did. But yeah, I only got one word right; no doubt your argument was rock solid otherwise. It was. Thanks! "Wouldn't" is correct. He wanted special rules to apply to him instead of allowing others the rights they already had. So he formed his own board, never got it recognized, and that's about the whole story. Apparently he's a very good doctor...just doesn't like following rule so much when he wants special rights for himself. Strange. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - GMDino - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 09:43 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: He must be a good doctor if he passed the first board on his first try and then his own. Glad he went the politician route before running for president, unlike Carson. Yeah, it seems he's well respected for his work. Maybe he should have stayed doing what he does and serving people that way instead of holding office. Just funny he wanted special rights for himself given his stand on other people wanting equal rights... RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - GMDino - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 09:42 PM)Bmoreblitz Wrote: One has to wonder what happened to Ben Carson? It would be hard to argue against the guy being brilliant but some of his beliefs are so questionable. He speaks a lot like Palin at times but then he this great surgeon? He definitely isn't a politician; a surgeon, yes, a public leader, no. My best guess is he is one of those individuals, who regardless of their success, still feels inadequate and thinks being President will fill his cup finally. He envies Obama for his great success and needs to outdo him so he grabs onto the anti-obama wing of American politics and suddenly is a Tea Pattie darling. I can't believe he actually believes some of the things he says. I don't know he feels he "needs" to be president. I think he just is driven by an ideology / religion that makes him think Obama is wrong so he can do a better job. He got a big boost by speaking out in front of the POTUS once so he thinks he's a leader now. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - BmorePat87 - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 09:42 PM)Bmoreblitz Wrote: One has to wonder what happened to Ben Carson? It would be hard to argue against the guy being brilliant but some of his beliefs are so questionable. He speaks a lot like Palin at times but then he this great surgeon? He definitely isn't a politician; a surgeon, yes, a public leader, no. My best guess is he is one of those individuals, who regardless of their success, still feels inadequate and thinks being President will fill his cup finally. He envies Obama for his great success and needs to outdo him so he grabs onto the anti-obama wing of American politics and suddenly is a Tea Pattie darling. I can't believe he actually believes some of the things he says. I trust him with neurosurgery, but I wouldn't hire him to fix my car just because he's a really gifted surgeon. Being a good surgeon doesn't make you a good mechanic, a good baseball player, a good history teacher, or a good politician. It doesn't even make you a good leader. The vast majority of Republicans who are fans of his like him because he parrots all of their tea party rhetoric. He says all of the crazy anti gay and anti evolution crap to get the god folks on board just in case they weren't tea party people. He reminds me of Charles Lollar. I'm sure you're familiar with him being from Maryland. He hadn't even lived in MD long enough to qualify, and people wanted him to run for governor because he spoke really loud at a lot of tea party rallies. His only experience was general manager at a local branch of a large office supply company. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - bfine32 - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 09:45 PM)GMDino Wrote: It was. Thanks! This will most likely be lost on you, but here goes: Paul passed the ABO certification on his first attempt. So any thing that suggests he could not or would not is incorrect. That is not focusing on one word; that is stating fact. He also didn't want special rights for himself; as he had already been certified and that certification was good for 10 years. He merely suggested ALL optometrists should be subject to periodic certification. i am not sure how this equates to special rules for himself. Sorry in advance if I just focused on one word. RE: Carson wants to talk about discrimination against Christians, not gay people - BmorePat87 - 06-14-2015 (06-14-2015, 09:47 PM)GMDino Wrote: Yeah, it seems he's well respected for his work. Maybe he should have stayed doing what he does and serving people that way instead of holding office. I feel like he is doing a great job in office. His pet causes (drone use, spying, justice system reform) are pretty important. Not sure what you're referring to in that last part. |