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RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - Nebuchadnezzar - 12-01-2017 Depending on what comes out, I can garentee that Trumps lawyers will release a statement saying in a lot more words something along the lines of "Why do you think they were fired?" and that's where this thing ends. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - Yojimbo - 12-01-2017 (12-01-2017, 04:12 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: It's okay, you have the plural form of you. That is something English lacks (unless you count regional variants like y'all, yinz, etc.) and it is ridiculous that is the case. Don’t forget “all y’all”. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - Dill - 12-01-2017 (12-01-2017, 04:12 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: It's okay, you have the plural form of you. That is something English lacks (unless you count regional variants like y'all, yinz, etc.) and it is ridiculous that is the case. Well we used to have a plural form--"ge" with a palatized "g"-- before the language got all Frenchified. (12-01-2017, 04:09 PM)hollodero Wrote: And bigly is not. There's no consistency. Actually, "bigly" is an adverb too. It just isn't used anymore. And once upon a time we knew lots of conjugation--way more than Modern German. Er, come to think of it, so did you. English and German come from the same West Germanic source. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - Belsnickel - 12-01-2017 Even the state run propaganda machine has it that Flynn is going to name Trump: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/01/michael-flynn-charged-in-special-counsels-russia-investigation.html Quote:Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty Friday to making false statements to the FBI – as part of a deal that involves his full cooperation with investigators in Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe. Of course, downplaying the situation. But still. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - Belsnickel - 12-01-2017 (12-01-2017, 05:25 PM)Dill Wrote: Well we used to have a plural form--"ge" with a palatized "g"-- before the language got all Frenchified. Those dirty French. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - Dill - 12-01-2017 (12-01-2017, 05:33 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Those dirty French. LOL not all of them. Just the Normans. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - GMDino - 12-01-2017 (12-01-2017, 05:19 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Don’t forget “all y’all”. Our neighbor from Louisiana was good for that one. Usually it was "F all y'all!" RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - GMDino - 12-01-2017 It doesn't matter if it's a lie... http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/362856-cnn-white-house-claims-obama-admin-approved-flynn-calls-with-russian#.WiHnbMHJGAw.facebook Quote:CNN: White House claims Obama admin approved Flynn calls with Russian ambassador RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - GMDino - 02-16-2018 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/16/special-counsel-indicts-russian-nationals-election-interference/345720002/ Quote:Special counsel indicts Russian nationals for interfering with U.S. elections and political processes RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - Belsnickel - 02-16-2018 (02-16-2018, 03:55 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/16/special-counsel-indicts-russian-nationals-election-interference/345720002/ I've been reading up on this a bit. Nothing really surprising in this. Interesting to note that some of the wording in the indictment (referring to Trump Campaign staffer(s) as "unwitting") point to there likely not being any collusion charges coming down the road. Again, not surprising to me, but just wanted to point that out. Lots in there about Russians promoting Sander and Trump, some about them trying to suppress the minority vote. They were successful in their goals, I don't think we can deny that based upon what we are seeing, and that includes the continued efforts to sow discord in American society. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - GMDino - 02-16-2018 (02-16-2018, 03:59 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I've been reading up on this a bit. Nothing really surprising in this. Interesting to note that some of the wording in the indictment (referring to Trump Campaign staffer(s) as "unwitting") point to there likely not being any collusion charges coming down the road. Again, not surprising to me, but just wanted to point that out. yeah, the "unwitting" part will be interesting to see seeing as several we already know "wittingly" met with some Russian officials too. I just wonder how the POTUS will continue to say this never happened because Putin told him so? RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - Belsnickel - 02-16-2018 (02-16-2018, 04:01 PM)GMDino Wrote: yeah, the "unwitting" part will be interesting to see seeing as several we already know "wittingly" met with some Russian officials too. My concerns are more about the future. How do we prevent this from happening again? These companies and individuals are just one part of a massive network. We didn't heed the warnings from Europe when this happened over there (some of the same techniques were used in Ukraine). Now that it has hit home, we still don't seem to be doing anything about it. I understand the administration is remaining in denial about this for fear it delegitimizes his authority, but his ignoring the problem does more to him in that regard than if he directed our intelligence community to act on this. I just don't know what we, the citizenry, can do. We can't magically make more judicious information consumers out of everyone in the country. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - JustWinBaby - 02-16-2018 (02-16-2018, 04:01 PM)GMDino Wrote: yeah, the "unwitting" part will be interesting to see seeing as several we already know "wittingly" met with some Russian officials too. LOL, you can always find the "silver lining" for your partisan irrationality. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - GMDino - 02-16-2018 (02-16-2018, 04:14 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: LOL, you can always find the "silver lining" for your partisan irrationality. It's partisan to point out what the POTUS has said that is patently false? For real? RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - GMDino - 02-16-2018 (02-16-2018, 04:07 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: My concerns are more about the future. How do we prevent this from happening again? These companies and individuals are just one part of a massive network. We didn't heed the warnings from Europe when this happened over there (some of the same techniques were used in Ukraine). Now that it has hit home, we still don't seem to be doing anything about it. I understand the administration is remaining in denial about this for fear it delegitimizes his authority, but his ignoring the problem does more to him in that regard than if he directed our intelligence community to act on this. We can't do it for a dozen people on a message board. All seriousness aside until the POTUS gets on board with it there will be very little to nothing done to stop it other than citizenry trying to get the truth out to everyone. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - hollodero - 02-16-2018 (02-16-2018, 04:07 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: My concerns are more about the future. How do we prevent this from happening again? These companies and individuals are just one part of a massive network. We didn't heed the warnings from Europe when this happened over there (some of the same techniques were used in Ukraine). Now that it has hit home, we still don't seem to be doing anything about it. I understand the administration is remaining in denial about this for fear it delegitimizes his authority, but his ignoring the problem does more to him in that regard than if he directed our intelligence community to act on this. Yeah you didn't heed our warnings indeed. I guess only thing you could do against it is vote. More and more these midterm elections turn out to be about the state of your democracy and your democracy alone. No matter who you side with, actually. You either believe the Nunes/Trump/Hannity story that Russia is nothing and FBI and DOJ etc. are all undermined by deep state conspiracy (then for the sake of the country you need to vote Republican), or you believe the FBI and all the other agencies and institutions and want the Mueller investigation to go on (then for the sake of the country you need to vote Democrat). Either way, US democracy it at stake and everything else is less important. Says me. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - GMDino - 02-19-2018
RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - Dill - 02-19-2018 (02-16-2018, 04:21 PM)GMDino Wrote: It's partisan to point out what the POTUS has said that is patently false? In contemporary politics, of course it is partisan. You have your facts and Trump and his Congressional backers have their alternative facts. So the "patent falsity" of Trump's statements only appears to Democrats and Establishment Republicans. I.e., your claim Trump lied about the Russian meddling is a Democratic party talking point. Don't bother wasting my time by comparing differently dated Trump tweets. Trump was just as right when he tweeted the one as when he tweeted the other. I am not going to listen to anyone who is irrationally partisan as you are. RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - Dill - 02-19-2018 (02-16-2018, 04:31 PM)hollodero Wrote: Yeah you didn't heed our warnings indeed. I guess only thing you could do against it is vote. More and more these midterm elections turn out to be about the state of your democracy and your democracy alone. No matter who you side with, actually. You either believe the Nunes/Trump/Hannity story that Russia is nothing and FBI and DOJ etc. are all undermined by deep state conspiracy (then for the sake of the country you need to vote Republican), or you believe the FBI and all the other agencies and institutions and want the Mueller investigation to go on (then for the sake of the country you need to vote Democrat). Either way, US democracy it at stake and everything else is less important. Says me. Sure, vote Democrat and lose our guns! As long as we have them, I don't think we have to worry much about Russians or anyone else. Go peddle your Communism to countries who don't love freedom! RE: It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition - hollodero - 02-19-2018 (02-19-2018, 01:50 PM)Dill Wrote: Sure, vote Democrat and lose our guns! Oh Jeez yeah, that right shall not be infringed, all hell would break loose if you could not form a well-regulated militia with semi-automatics and bumping stocks. Then again, as an originalist I suppose this right only refers to arms available in 1788. So machetes, breechloader rifles, double-barreled revolvers and such. I'd sell everyone who wants it a breechloader. If people want something better, they need to be trained by serving in the US army first, at least for a month or two on the home front. |