(07-27-2016, 08:43 PM)GMDino Wrote: Gray was suppose to be too.

Funny that.

A man died in the back of a van.  No one knows how.  That's sad.

(07-27-2016, 08:43 PM)GMDino Wrote: Gray was suppose to be too.

Funny that.

A man died in the back of a van.  No one knows how.  That's sad.

(06-09-2016, 04:48 PM)Benton Wrote: Even if he cause the injuries himself, they would still face a charge of some kind like gross negligence. Which is loads better than murder, but it's going to be tough to convince a jury a guy broke his own spine while in custody.

(07-27-2016, 12:47 PM)GMDino Wrote: I guess if they never go to trial that won't be a problem.

(07-27-2016, 04:52 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Except for the ones that did and were found not guilty.  Or a hung jury (one holdout against acquittal iirc)



100% true.  Prosecutions should not be used as a political tool or a way of mollifying an angry mob.  This whole "investigation" was rancid from the start.  Mosby should be disbarred, her conduct in this case is the definition of unethical.

(07-27-2016, 04:58 PM)GMDino Wrote: One...who did.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-porter-jury-split-20160115-story.html

(07-27-2016, 08:53 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I'm reasonably certain several other officers received a trial and were acquitted.  See, I mentioned that in the post you failed to read properly. 

(07-27-2016, 09:07 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Yes, he was supposed to be....because that's how it was determined past such accidents can be prevented.  

It's negligence, not criminal.

(07-27-2016, 09:11 PM)GMDino Wrote: If you spent more time reading what I was responding to and not just looking for a chance to try and prove me wrong again you'd see I was referring to jury trials.  The others had bench trials and were acquitted by the judge.

(07-27-2016, 10:07 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Except you said trials, as in they didn't go to trial.  A bench trial is still a trial.  It's an option that the defendant has had in our justice system for well over a century.  I mention that because Mosby clearly doesn't know that and apparently you don't feel that a bench trial is a criminal trial.  In the future please try and avoid confusion by stating what you mean.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter.

(07-27-2016, 10:15 PM)GMDino Wrote: But then who would you follow around to try and prove you are always right?   

Quote:Still, I showed you what I was responding to.  Sorry if you would have had to follow along.  I didn't know I was writing for a crowd that only read my posts anot what I was quoting too.

(07-27-2016, 10:32 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You didn't know someone else might read a post on a public message board? This is why I love you.  :heart:

(07-27-2016, 10:15 PM)GMDino Wrote: Still, I showed you what I was responding to.  Sorry if you would have had to follow along.  I didn't know I was writing for a crowd that only read my posts not what I was quoting too.

(07-27-2016, 08:59 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: It is sad, it's just not criminal.  What is almost equally sad is a state attorney who thinks her job is to appease a mob and make social statements instead of making decisions based on evidence and the law.  Any hope of securing any convictions died the day she held her grandstanding, soap box preacher style, press conference and reported her inane list of charges.  If you really think something unjust occurred the day that Gray died then the person you should be most upset with is Mosby, she failed to do her job in just about every way possible and IMO, and that of several other bench officers I know, she conducted herself in an unethical manner. 

(09-09-2015, 02:02 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: Apparently this is the proposed settlement to the family of Freddie Gray.

http://news.yahoo.com/baltimore-tentative-6-4-million-settlement-freddie-gray-144425987.html

Is this an admission that they have a problem ?
It's tough to put a dollar amount on a life, but is this adequate ?

(07-27-2016, 08:59 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: It is sad, it's just not criminal.  What is almost equally sad is a state attorney who thinks her job is to appease a mob and make social statements instead of making decisions based on evidence and the law.  Any hope of securing any convictions died the day she held her grandstanding, soap box preacher style, press conference and reported her inane list of charges.  If you really think something unjust occurred the day that Gray died then the person you should be most upset with is Mosby, she failed to do her job in just about every way possible and IMO, and that of several other bench officers I know, she conducted herself in an unethical manner. 

(08-03-2016, 10:45 PM)THE Bigzoman Wrote: Pretty much like Angela Corey with the Trayvon Martin case.

I said Zimmerman was going to get off the moment she announced Second Degree Murder. Nobody on my dad's side of the family (black) believed me. My mom's (white) side was about 50/50.

Quote:Mosby went on to say that prosecutors' lack of a say in whether a defendant in Maryland can elect a bench trial — it is solely the defendant's choice — impeded justice in the Gray case. She said she would consider pushing legislation in Annapolis to change the rules.

(07-27-2016, 08:59 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: It is sad, it's just not criminal.  What is almost equally sad is a state attorney who thinks her job is to appease a mob and make social statements instead of making decisions based on evidence and the law.  Any hope of securing any convictions died the day she held her grandstanding, soap box preacher style, press conference and reported her inane list of charges.  If you really think something unjust occurred the day that Gray died then the person you should be most upset with is Mosby, she failed to do her job in just about every way possible and IMO, and that of several other bench officers I know, she conducted herself in an unethical manner. 

(07-27-2016, 09:07 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Yes, he was supposed to be....because that's how it was determined past such accidents can be prevented.  

It's negligence, not criminal.

(08-03-2016, 11:07 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Simply vomitous.  I've said it before, and it remains true, if I was charged with something I was innocent of I'd demand a bench trial.  If I was guilty I'd ask for a jury trial.  Convincing twelve amateurs with obfuscation and bullshit is far easier than pulling the wool over the eyes of a veteran bench officer.  I literally loathe this woman, I hope no LEO cooperates with her again, ever.

(08-04-2016, 01:38 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Who do guys think was responsible for Gray's death?

People don't just die by "accident" while riding in the back of a van, do they? 

(08-04-2016, 01:40 AM)fredtoast Wrote: How do you feel about the way the DAs acted in the cases of Laquan McDonald and Michael Brown.

Did their actions make you want to vomit also?

(08-04-2016, 01:59 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Not sure.  Due to the incompetence of Mosby we'll never really know.  Since, like a defense attorney, she was more concerned with hyperbole over substance we'll, sadly, never likely know.

(08-04-2016, 03:21 AM)fredtoast Wrote: How should she have handled it?  Who should she have charged with what crime?

(08-04-2016, 01:59 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: In the case of Brown, I feel they did their job, as the DOJ, and forensic evidence, concurred. 

(08-04-2016, 03:24 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Charges that she could have actually proven.  Help her change the law so your clients can't request a bench trial though.  It'll make your job easier 99% of the time.