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RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - CJD - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 09:51 PM)Nately120 Wrote: You mean like the way NY contains one of our greatest cultural, artistic, and financial capitals and Mississippi is full of uneducated and knocked-up teens? Comments like this are the evidence used in the primary argument for keeping the EC, for what it's worth. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - Nately120 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:02 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Comments like this are the evidence used in the primary argument for keeping the EC, for what it's worth. True, those knocked-up teens and their spawn are the future of our country. Alas, my race has been run. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - michaelsean - 04-02-2019 Each state picks who they want for President. If you don’t like the extra two votes each state gets then take them away. Hillary still loses. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - NATI BENGALS - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:16 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Each state picks who they want for President. If you don’t like the extra two votes each state gets then take them away. Hillary still loses. Its not about Hillary winning or losing. Its about a method that is dumb as shit. Who all was allowed to vote and how many states were there when this was written? RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - michaelsean - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:24 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Its not about Hillary winning or losing. Its about a method that is dumb as shit. Of course it is. Or Trump winning. Whichever you prefer. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - SunsetBengal - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 07:25 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: One thing I have noticed is people tend to use anachronisms to defend it, presenting arguments not relevant to 1787-91. The whole point was to give people in rural areas the same voice as people in highly populated areas. What about that is so hard to understand? Ancient Greece died via the City State, are we to do the same? RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - michaelsean - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 09:22 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Yeah, but wouldn't giving everyone an equal say in the presidency be like...fascism or something? Dems have won a majority twice in 53 year. 3 times in 65 years. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - Nately120 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:33 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Dems have won a majority twice in 53 year. 3 times in 65 years. I was talking popular vote. Republicans won it in 2004 and 1988, the Democrats have won it 4 of the past 5 elections. Look, it doesn't matter how people count votes, because my candidates aren't winning, but when people talk about the merits of the EC it always seem to be a D vs R sort of argument and the way the popular vote has shaken out lately fuels my cynicism. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - BmorePat87 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:29 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The whole point was to give people in rural areas the same voice as people in highly populated areas. What about that is so hard to understand? Ancient Greece died via the City State, are we to do the same? Which framer stated this? Also, we do not have the same system they designed. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - BmorePat87 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 08:58 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It was only a legitimate factor in the last election because Monday Morning QBs made it so. Perhaps it has recieved a little more attention than "noting". You're arguing that the EC wasn't a factor because we have always had the EC and that candidate know this going into the election and it was they campaigned with that in mind... so you're actually arguing it was the primary factor. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - BmorePat87 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 09:39 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Your vote counts the same as mine. The larger population has the larger say Nationally. However, you suggestion that a popular vote would cause candidate to campaign more wide spread is a notion I whole heartedly disagree with. This is false. Wyoming gets 1 EC vote for every 192,579 citizens. California gets 1 for every 719,273 citizens. So every 1 voter in Wyoming counts for 3.7 voters in California. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - bfine32 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:43 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: You're arguing that the EC wasn't a factor because we have always had the EC and that candidate know this going into the election and it was they campaigned with that in mind... so you're actually arguing it was the primary factor. I must admit you've lost me with this one. Can anyone help me out? RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - bfine32 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:02 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Comments like this are the evidence used in the primary argument for keeping the EC, for what it's worth. If there's more like you, the conservative may soon be in trouble. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - BmorePat87 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:49 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I must admit you've lost me with this one. translation: you argued the EC wasn't a factor because it was a factor. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - bfine32 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:51 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: translation: you argued the EC wasn't a factor because it was a factor. Hell, I didn't even know I did that. I thought I was arguing the Popular was not a factor. Pretty sure the EC was the only factor. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - BmorePat87 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 09:18 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Nope, but it takes two Californians to every one Montanan for their EC votes. It's closer to 4. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - Goalpost - 04-02-2019 So would Dems change their own Super Delegate system in the primaries, since every vote seems to count now? RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - BmorePat87 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:54 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Hell, I didn't even know I did that. I thought I was arguing the Popular was not a factor. Pretty sure the EC was the only factor. You used the word "it" multiple times. Did you mean "popular vote" because I read it as you discussing "electoral college". If you meant popular vote then disregard my replies. I get what you're saying. :andy: RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - BmorePat87 - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:58 PM)Goalpost Wrote: So would Dems change their own Super Delegate system in the primaries, since every vote seems to count now? They should, but neither party's primary is a truly democratic process in that sense. Both should be. Straight up primaries, none of this later state delegate convention shit where non binding delegates can mess it up. All delegates vote the way their state went. RE: How big of a vote gap would it take for you to drop the Electoral College? - SunsetBengal - 04-02-2019 (04-02-2019, 10:38 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Which framer stated this? James Wilson of Pennsylvania. |