(07-05-2016, 07:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Read this forum. The left is unapologetic; yet easily offended. The man was detained and found to be without cause, an apology never hurt anyone, but questioning him in a crowd might. I have read reports where he refused to get on the ground when originally ordered to do so. 

(07-05-2016, 07:53 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Read this forum. The left is unapologetic; yet easily offended. The man was detained and found to be without cause, an apology never hurt anyone, but questioning him in a crowd might. I have read reports where he refused to get on the ground when originally ordered to do so. 

(07-05-2016, 07:59 PM)GMDino Wrote: Oh no!  An innocent man didn't go immediately to the ground when he was surprised a cop was there to arrest him?

The horror!

(07-05-2016, 08:16 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So if what they did was what they should have done, why was there an apology? I am still not getting that. An apology implies you were in the wrong in some way.


My thought as well. I am standing around not doing anything illegal and some cop tells me to get on the ground, it ain't happening.

(07-05-2016, 08:16 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So if what they did was what they should have done, why was there an apology? I am still not getting that. An apology implies you were in the wrong in some way.


My thought as well. I am standing around not doing anything illegal and some cop tells me to get on the ground, it ain't happening.

(07-05-2016, 09:00 PM)bfine32 Wrote: An apology means you regretted an act happened; not necessarily that the act was "wrong", but roll with the never apologize unless you are wrong approach (can I call the left or can I call the left). Quick tell me: What did the Mayor of Avon do wrong? Obviously something, because he issued an apology. 

What if that LEO knows something you don't know and getting down is for your safety? Guess I'm not the rebel others are, A LEO tells me to get on the ground; I get on the ground, we can figure it out later. But you do you. 

(07-05-2016, 11:38 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: The dude drops down to pray 5 times per day.
I fail to see why he couldn't go through the motion one more time.

(07-06-2016, 12:50 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Can we be honest? If you were arrested because some hick from Ohio told the cops you pledged allegiance to ISIS, how would you feel about your arrest?

(07-06-2016, 01:01 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I'd be pissed.

Let's be honest v.2: What would you do as a LEO if you had been told multiple sources told you someone in a crowded hotel has pledged alliance to a terrorist organization and then when you showed up on the scene and asked him to get down on the ground, he refused? 

(07-06-2016, 01:22 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Before I play this game, I just want to point out that he did comply with them. If someone refused, however, I'd arrest them.

(07-06-2016, 01:30 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Just so we're clear: If I can show you a report that he refused to get down when originally instructed to do  so, then you'd agree he should be arrested.(Remember, we're being honest) 

(07-06-2016, 01:01 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I'd be pissed.

Let's be honest v.2: What would you do as a LEO if you had been told multiple sources told you someone in a crowded hotel has pledged alliance to a terrorist organization and then when you showed up on the scene and asked him to get down on the ground, he refused? 

(07-06-2016, 12:25 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Because a Law Enforcement Officer of the country he is visiting (treating him) told him to. What person in their right mind would get down because an officer of the law instructed them to do so?

Brings me to mind back in '06 when I was walking through security in the Tokyo airport. I took off my shoes prior to entering the detector, about 3 airport security officer commanded me to stop, stupid me stopped instead of continuing to strut around in my "I'm not doing anything wrong" mentality. Come to find out that they had slippers they wanted you to wear and not walk around without shoes.

Apparently there are those here that would not have stopped when instructed to do so.

(07-06-2016, 02:13 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: And if I can show you the body camera footage of him dropping when he is told to and a dozen of officers are 20+ feet away from him at this point?

(07-05-2016, 10:57 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Yeh, no reason to try to keep it from happening again.  Just keep harrassing innocent people and then apologize.  Nothing to see here.


"AMERICA!  HELL YEAH!"

(07-06-2016, 10:04 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I can see you are not willing to provide answers. So on to the next subject.

(07-05-2016, 04:12 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What would you have done if you were a LEO and someone told you a man just pledged allegiance to a Terrorist organization?  

(07-05-2016, 04:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Who did the Constitution not protect in this instance?