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RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - Dill - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 08:06 AM)Vlad Wrote: Papadopoulos just another nothingburger. Is that four or five nothingburgers in legal trouble now now? Two campaign managers dealing with Russians offering dirt on Hillary should clear Trump pretty soon. Hannity is sure this is a distraction from the REAL issue now, which how Hillary and Obama sold 20% of US Uranium to the Russians. He wants Mueller OUT OF THERE since he has compromised himself by . . . . not sure exactly but he was supposed to prosecute Hillary back then and didn't. So he is suspect now for not finding evidence of wrongdoing. But I think until innuendo becomes evidence, the Clintons will keep getting off the hook. Judge Jeanine Pirro said it--this the perfect time to STOP THE WHOLE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION and Lock Hillary up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_X0_759smo at 00:39. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - GMDino - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 11:03 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/23009/muellers-team-might-have-violated-manaforts-ryan-saavedra The link says "might". Since I won't give that site the revenue by clicking on it what is their reasoning? RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - Dill - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 11:03 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/23009/muellers-team-might-have-violated-manaforts-ryan-saavedra Sometimes people forget that money laundering is a white collar crime and not all that bad. Same for lying to investigators. Too soon for a rousing Fox cheer if Trump's campaign chairman gets off, but maybe . . . just maybe . . . . RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - Belsnickel - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 11:03 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/23009/muellers-team-might-have-violated-manaforts-ryan-saavedra Potentially. Could be agents didn't know when they were seizing the information, could be Mueller and his team weren't notified ahead of time. Good effort, though. You went further than even the Daily Wire in your jumping to conclusions. You might MAGA, yet. ![]() RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - StLucieBengal - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 11:17 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Potentially. Could be agents didn't know when they were seizing the information, could be Mueller and his team weren't notified ahead of time. Good effort, though. You went further than even the Daily Wire in your jumping to conclusions. You might MAGA, yet. This isn’t some investigation into a liquor store robbery. This is a pretty big for agents to not know what is going on.... those details are on Mueller. You do realize that dailywire hammers trump pretty consistently when warranted. Maybe you should read the stories before just making the lazy call of dismissing it all together. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - Belsnickel - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 11:28 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: This isn’t some investigation into a liquor store robbery. This is a pretty big for agents to not know what is going on.... those details are on Mueller. If they weren't told what was going on by the attorney, which is something that would have had to have happened according to the Daily Wire article, then how were they to have known? Even the Daily Wire article doesn't claim that happened in it. I do read the stories, and just because they hammer Trump doesn't mean they aren't a terrible "news" source. There are some decent openly slanted news sources on both sides that do a good job in their reporting and have opinion pieces that don't make me want to give myself a lobotomy because that is the only way I could bring myself down to their level, the Daily Wire is not among them. I've said plenty, I follow multiple conservative sources on social media and online, but I have a high standard for what I actually use for news and an overblown blog isn't going to make the cut. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - GMDino - 11-01-2017 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-campaign-adviser-pleaded-guilty-to-lying-about-russian-contacts/2017/10/30/d525e712-bd7d-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html?utm_term=.a5747824d9bd Quote:Several weeks after Donald Trump secured the Republican presidential nomination, his national campaign co-chairman urged a foreign policy adviser to meet with Russian officials to foster ties with that country’s government. As an aside: I'm torn on the Trump roll in this. I think he's the kind of "leader" who really has zero idea what is going on around him. that's the grunt work while he takes the glory, spreads the blame. Is it worse that he doesn't know anything or if he knew and let it happen? Not legally worse. Just worse for him as a candidate and POTUS, I mean. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - Dill - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 12:47 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-campaign-adviser-pleaded-guilty-to-lying-about-russian-contacts/2017/10/30/d525e712-bd7d-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html?utm_term=.a5747824d9bd You are for the most part right on the money, but given the circle of sycophants he has constructed around himself, I cannot believe that multiple eager-for-praise-and-recognition campaign operators did not did not buttonhole him multiple times with some unofficial "wink wink here's what we're working on behind the scenes" discussion about Russian offers and contacts. In the foreign policy field for sure he was having difficulty getting real players and reaching for less competents looking for recognition and a chance to be players if Trump won. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - GMDino - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 01:10 PM)Dill Wrote: You are for the most part right on the money, but given the circle of sycophants he has constructed around himself, I cannot believe that multiple eager-for-praise-and-recognition campaign operators did not did not buttonhole him multiple times with some unofficial "wink wink here's what we're working on behind the scenes" discussion about Russian offers and contacts. Which also plays into Trump saying he was "an excellent guy". Because in Trump's mind since he wanted to work for Trump he had to be excellent. Right? RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - GMDino - 11-01-2017 The spin and cover continues.... https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/31/trump-robert-mueller-indictments-response-244361 Quote:White House wants credit for Papadopoulos arrest RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - StLucieBengal - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 11:39 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: If they weren't told what was going on by the attorney, which is something that would have had to have happened according to the Daily Wire article, then how were they to have known? Even the Daily Wire article doesn't claim that happened in it. I would love to know what you deem a conservative source. My guess is that it’s pretty progressive. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - Belsnickel - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 01:56 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I would love to know what you deem a conservative source. My guess is that it’s pretty progressive. You mean like National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Federalist, or American Conservative? RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - StLucieBengal - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 02:07 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: You mean like National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Federalist, or American Conservative? Some progressive outlets you have there.... federalist is good. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - Belsnickel - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 02:31 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Some progressive outlets you have there.... federalist is good. I only follow Federalist because Sean Davis is a whacko and it's hilarious. And yeah, non of those are progressive. They are conservative outlets. You view is skewed if you think those are progressive. The people with those publications are the people able to have real discussions that are evidence and logic based about the political topics of today, but they are conservative through and through. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - Dill - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 02:36 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I only follow Federalist because Sean Davis is a whacko and it's hilarious. And yeah, non of those are progressive. They are conservative outlets. You view is skewed if you think those are progressive. The people with those publications are the people able to have real discussions that are evidence and logic based about the political topics of today, but they are conservative through and through. That gave you away, Bels. You are reading RINOs, not real conservatives! They are as much defenders of the OBama Deep state as the Nation and MSNBC. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - ballsofsteel - 11-01-2017 Hi. Anybody know if Donald Drumph jr. ever adopted that kid that he was talking to the Russians about? RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - ballsofsteel - 11-01-2017 Why won't Drumph release his tax returns? Can Mueller make him do it? This might clear a lot of things up. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - BmorePat87 - 11-01-2017 Three passports? Fake names and burner phones? Secret money from foreign governments? Someone should have done some extreme vetting of their campaign chair. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 07:24 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Three passports? Fake names and burner phones? Secret money from foreign governments? It's quite obvious that the Trump campaign, ostracized by the establishment as it was, was desperate to take anyone. That doesn't lead to smart decisions. RE: Manafort and Gates Charged - StLucieBengal - 11-01-2017 (11-01-2017, 02:36 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I only follow Federalist because Sean Davis is a whacko and it's hilarious. And yeah, non of those are progressive. They are conservative outlets. You view is skewed if you think those are progressive. The people with those publications are the people able to have real discussions that are evidence and logic based about the political topics of today, but they are conservative through and through. Establishment GOP are nothing but progressives. 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