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RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Mike M (the other one) - 08-09-2016 (08-09-2016, 09:51 AM)fredtoast Wrote: All of the legal immigrants that I have discussed this with have been from Mexico/South America. Philippines, Asians make up 6% of the total population of the US, 4.5% of those are Filipino. Chinese-Asian makes up the next biggest at 1.3%. Both of those groups are very supportive of Trump. How do I know they are Legal? Technically I don't, but quite a few are married to Americans using the k-1 visa and whom have become USC's. As far as talking about Politics? I never came out and questioned or queried them about it, but most are willing to talk about it once someone gets them going and some I've known some of them for a while and already know their stance. So I'm mainly looking at the people that I don't know to find out their stance. Which is how I find someone voting for Gary Johnson (Native American - Navajo specifically) and the two of us had some great discussions about the Great 5 Tribes, Pow-Wows, Cars, education growing up on the Reservation in Arizona and I talked about how I grew up with many Cherokee friends in Oklahoma. The first party was a Church Party all day Saturday Event. The next 2 were private birthday parties amongst friends. I have read is some media that Legal Immigrants (Hispanics) are starting to show support in strong numbers for Trump, despite what the media says. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - McC - 08-09-2016 (08-09-2016, 09:51 AM)fredtoast Wrote: All of the legal immigrants that I have discussed this with have been from Mexico/South America. They got that idea from MSNBC. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BmorePat87 - 08-10-2016 What exactly are his "bold ideas"? If you want to know why he's falling, it's because he's incapable of shifting into the general election fight. He spends as much time fighting Hillary as he does fighting parents of a dead soldier and Republicans in Congress. He takes the bait every time and has to respond to anything that he sees as a slight against him. The end result is America seeing a man more concerned about fighting anyone who disagrees with him than someone who seems interested in explaining why he has the best plan to lead this country. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Mike M (the other one) - 08-10-2016 (08-10-2016, 11:27 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: What exactly are his "bold ideas"? I didn't think Obama was allowed to run again? RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BmorePat87 - 08-10-2016 (08-10-2016, 11:31 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: I didn't think Obama was allowed to run again? huh? RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - PhilHos - 08-10-2016 (08-10-2016, 12:09 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: huh? He was basically saying that your last post applied to Obama. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BmorePat87 - 08-10-2016 (08-10-2016, 12:12 PM)PhilHos Wrote: He was basically saying that your last post applied to Obama. Yea, I got that, I just didn't understand how it did. He seemed pretty focused on attacking McCain and tying him to the Bush presidency in 2008. I'm guessing it was Mike's way of deflecting away from criticism against Trump. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Mike M (the other one) - 08-10-2016 (08-10-2016, 12:34 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Yea, I got that, I just didn't understand how it did. He seemed pretty focused on attacking McCain and tying him to the Bush presidency in 2008. I'm guessing it was Mike's way of deflecting away from criticism against Trump. I'm just learning from the masters at Deflecting. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - wildcats forever - 08-10-2016 Stay on topic please. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-10-2016 Trump CAN'T go too far. He's a one trick pony and he'll ride that to the end. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-10-2016 So has nobody brought up his comments about the SA crowd and how that is all playing out? Kind of surprised. The spin machine on the Trump Train went into overdrive trying to explain that one away, but it's not very convincing at all. If someone else had made that comment they would have been having a nice chat with the feds. Who knows, though, he may be having that chat. I just find it funny how naive his surrogates think the public is. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - BmorePat87 - 08-10-2016 (08-10-2016, 02:36 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So has nobody brought up his comments about the SA crowd and how that is all playing out? Kind of surprised. The spin machine on the Trump Train went into overdrive trying to explain that one away, but it's not very convincing at all. If someone else had made that comment they would have been having a nice chat with the feds. Who knows, though, he may be having that chat. I just find it funny how naive his surrogates think the public is. Those behind him laughed as if he was suggesting using guns. I'm not 100% convinced he was, though. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - GMDino - 08-10-2016 (08-10-2016, 02:36 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So has nobody brought up his comments about the SA crowd and how that is all playing out? Kind of surprised. The spin machine on the Trump Train went into overdrive trying to explain that one away, but it's not very convincing at all. If someone else had made that comment they would have been having a nice chat with the feds. Who knows, though, he may be having that chat. I just find it funny how naive his surrogates think the public is. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/24/us/politics/24clinton.html?_r=0 Quote:Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton defended staying in the Democratic nominating contest on Friday by pointing out that her husband had not wrapped up the nomination until June 1992, adding, “We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California.” Of course she owned up to it and apologized. Trump is like the Fonz, unable to say the word "sorry" (unless he's calling someone sorry) but way less cool. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-10-2016 (08-10-2016, 02:39 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Those behind him laughed as if he was suggesting using guns. I'm not 100% convinced he was, though. I think he made the remark thinking about the use of firearms, but wasn't actually suggesting violence. It was one of those uncomfortable "jokes" that some people who speak before they think tend to say. Just my take on it. Edit: Of course, some of his supporters don't see it that way: RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-10-2016 (08-10-2016, 02:40 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/24/us/politics/24clinton.html?_r=0 Different turn of phrase, so hard to compare. Though I have no doubt that if it had not been said in that context and from her then someone would have been talking to the feds. They don't play around with that stuff. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Mike M (the other one) - 08-10-2016 (08-10-2016, 02:36 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So has nobody brought up his comments about the SA crowd and how that is all playing out? Kind of surprised. The spin machine on the Trump Train went into overdrive trying to explain that one away, but it's not very convincing at all. If someone else had made that comment they would have been having a nice chat with the feds. Who knows, though, he may be having that chat. I just find it funny how naive his surrogates think the public is. It was nowhere near as direct as Biden telling Obama that if he tries to fool with his Berretta, then we've got a problem. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-10-2016 Was listening to an interview with a former SS agent. He said that since it wasn't a direct threat, Trump isn't in any trouble. He did say, though, that there will very likely be a discussion with him about choosing his words more carefully. He made the SS job more difficult because his words can easily be interpreted by the less stable to be a call for violence. Already there has been a lot of activity for the SS. Apparently social media threats targeting both Trump and Clinton have been coming in regularly. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Belsnickel - 08-11-2016 So, Trump stated that Obama founded ISIS last evening. Apparently a conservative talk show host tried to play the spin game so many people do with Trump's comments, and he doubled down: Quote:Washington (CNN) Donald Trump said Thursday that he meant exactly what he said when he called President Barack Obama the "founder of ISIS" and objected when a conservative radio show host tried to clarify the GOP nominee's position. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Au165 - 08-11-2016 (08-11-2016, 02:48 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So, Trump stated that Obama founded ISIS last evening. Apparently a conservative talk show host tried to play the spin game so many people do with Trump's comments, and he doubled down: Well if there is one thing you can say about the guy, he sticks to his guns no matter how stupid they may be. The guy even tried to give him an out saying "Do you mean he created the power vacuum that allowed it to form?", and of course his response was "no, he founded it". It is easy to see why the GOP is having people in congressional races separate themselves from him. I was reading something the other day about the party being concerned a major Trump loss could lead to a massive swing in congress. RE: Has Trump Gone Too Far? - Rotobeast - 08-11-2016 (08-11-2016, 04:51 PM)Au165 Wrote: Well if there is one thing you can say about the guy, he sticks to his guns no matter how stupid they may be. The guy even tried to give him an out saying "Do you mean he created the power vacuum that allowed it to form?", and of course his response was "no, he founded it".Something that harsh has to have something behind it. I think he knows what's in the next round of e-mails. Btw... I'm not saying the Obama administration intentionally created them, just possibly inadvertently. Sent from my SM-S820L using Tapatalk |