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RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - TheLeonardLeap - 06-08-2017 (06-08-2017, 06:38 PM)Bengalzona Wrote: Not looking at this from a "get Trump!" point of view. But I do suspect there are other Americans involved. They may not be associated with Trump and the campaign. Can't be... I heard it from a "reliable source" that Trump would be impeached in no time. Bunches of threads and hundreds of replies. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - Bengalzona - 06-09-2017 (06-08-2017, 06:59 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Wow. I never considered that. Can't really wrap my head around that. That would astonish me, but I suppose it's entirely possible that Hillary and Trump were so polarizing that "insiders" were knowingly or unwittingly influenced by foreign agents. Snowden, the Shadow Brokers, Wikileaks, etc. have really screwed us over. I can't forget how many people were declaring Snowden a "hero" back in 2013. To me, he is a total traitor: no different than Aldrich Ames, Robert Hanssen, or John Walker, Jr. Fifteen years ago, Putin and the Russians could not have dreamed of doing what they are doing today. The fact that they have arrived at this point traces totally back to Snowden. Our children will suffer for what he has done. I'll leave that at that. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - Nebuchadnezzar - 06-09-2017 (06-08-2017, 05:57 PM)ballsofsteel Wrote: Hello. All this Comey drama isn't important. The commander in tweets is going down, its only a matter of time. The committee investigating Trumps campaign and ties with Russia will catch one of Trumps underlings perjure themselves. Is that what you think might happen or are you hoping it happens? Because I see it a different way. I see the DOJ going after Comey and Lynch now and with Comey being such a wimp, he will roll on who put him up to this. Lynch will roll on Bill saying he wanted her to help out his wife. Also, do you really think this Reality Winner, 25 year old girl just decided on her own to leak classified government documents? I don't think so, she was put up to it by someone...could be Clinton, could be Obama or it could be some schmuck she looks up to at a diner she frequents. Comey opened Pandoras Box with this open to the public testimony, I wonder what he said or will say in those closed sessions. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - JustWinBaby - 06-09-2017 (06-09-2017, 12:57 AM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: I see the DOJ going after Comey ... Trump needs to let go of the Comey thing. He said damaging things about Trump, but Trump himself has done far worse to himself. Otherwise, this largely helped Trump...With the right spin and messaging, Comey's testimony could be a gift to Trump, but instead they're heading back into the mud to carry out some inexplicable personal vendetta. As for Reality Winner....yes, I do think she did that on her own. Clinton is done - she's not going to be POTUS from anything she can do to Trump, so why bother? With respect to such conspiracy theories, you have to ask yourself what they have to gain from taking such great personal risk. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - JustWinBaby - 06-09-2017 (06-09-2017, 12:50 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: The fact that they have arrived at this point traces totally back to Snowden. Our children will suffer for what he has done. I have mixed feelings. I think Snowden did an important job as whistle blower, while at the same time being reckless with the extent of what he disclosed. Now the more recent leak (not Snowden) certainly gave ideas and blueprints to average hackers, but I doubt Russia or China state-sponsored cyber picked up many new tricks. I'd add simply that, unlike most Libertarians, I don't believe privacy and these types of tools can't co-exist. Just about every tech has the potential for good and bad, and you can't shun advancement out of fear of abuse. But I think it's more than a bit of a leap to lay this on Snowden. As far as I know, he didn't deliver any "tools" to Russia, and I fully believe Russia (and other countries) were already developing their cyber warfare without Snowden's disclosures. And the spying and meddling thing has absolutely nothing to do with Snowden but has been SOP on the world stage for decades. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - Bengalzona - 06-09-2017 (06-09-2017, 12:57 AM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: Also, do you really think this Reality Winner, 25 year old girl just decided on her own to leak classified government documents? (06-09-2017, 01:39 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: As for Reality Winner....yes, I do think she did that on her own. What I want to know is.... what kind of moron approves a TS clearance for someone named "Reality Winner"? Seriously?!?!?! RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - Bengalzona - 06-09-2017 (06-09-2017, 01:44 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: I have mixed feelings. I think Snowden did an important job as whistle blower, while at the same time being reckless with the extent of what he disclosed. Now the more recent leak (not Snowden) certainly gave ideas and blueprints to average hackers, but I doubt Russia or China state-sponsored cyber picked up many new tricks. My problem with Snowden is his actions in leaking the information and the way it was traipsed around to foreign governments, rather than his whistle-blowing (i.e. If he had stayed in the States and leaked it to U.S. media, I would have had little issue with it). There is no way I can be convinced that his deal to stay in Russia was not contingent upon release of information... all of it. And he had a lot of information, most of top secret, which the government cannot even disclose to the public. We are told that much of it was concerning our cyber-spying. Aldrich Ames. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - JustWinBaby - 06-09-2017 (06-09-2017, 03:08 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: What I want to know is.... what kind of moron approves a TS clearance for someone named "Reality Winner"? Well, she was a 6-yr veteran of the Air Force, where she was a linguist who spoke 3 languages. That seems like a pretty reasonable qualification to me. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - Bengalzona - 06-09-2017 (06-09-2017, 03:34 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Well, she was a 6-yr veteran of the Air Force, where she was a linguist who spoke 3 languages. That seems like a pretty reasonable qualification to me. A start. But how about a background check? RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - ballsofsteel - 06-09-2017 (06-09-2017, 12:57 AM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: Is that what you think might happen or are you hoping it happens?"Is that what you think might happen or are you hoping it happens?" At this point I don't care anymore. Even if Trump goes down what are we left with? Better but not much. Comey screwed alot of things up with his in-decisions. He should of said no comment until the "investigation" was completely over. While he was blabbing about Hillary during the campaign Trump said he was a super star. Once he turned the spot light on Trumps campaign, he was a no good SOB. "she was put up to it by someone...could be Clinton, could be Obama " This sounds like something Trump would tweet. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - BmorePat87 - 06-09-2017 If your new sources says this was a win for Trump or if your news source says this was a win for Democrats, you need a new news source. That's my takeaway. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - SunsetBengal - 06-09-2017 Most dubious fact revealed in yesterday's inquiry.. ![]() RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - Arturo Bandini - 06-09-2017 In France the left wing exploded and died one month ago and the death of the right wing is set for this weekend. there's no left and right no more ... And everybody is feeling better. And since they have nothing to boo and criticize for being left or right, old politicians have nothing more to say. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - michaelsean - 06-09-2017 (06-09-2017, 08:54 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Most dubious fact revealed in yesterday's inquiry.. I think she just wanted it transferred to the Federal Bureau of Matters. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - GMDino - 06-09-2017 (06-08-2017, 05:03 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: So, short of evidence you don't think they will do anything? I would agree. We had more evidence in all the Obama scandals yet never had a special prosecutor for a single one. (06-09-2017, 12:57 AM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: Is that what you think might happen or are you hoping it happens? Yep, "evidence". ![]() (06-09-2017, 01:39 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Trump needs to let go of the Comey thing. He said damaging things about Trump, but Trump himself has done far worse to himself. Otherwise, this largely helped Trump...With the right spin and messaging, Comey's testimony could be a gift to Trump, but instead they're heading back into the mud to carry out some inexplicable personal vendetta. To the bold: Exactly. Facts, what was said, who to believe will be less important that the spin and the messaging. As to the rest: Have you ever seen or heard anything fro Trump? He can't let the slightest slight go. You think he'll let Comey calling him a liar go? Of course if we give him a chance he may change and grow into the job he said would be easy with how smart he is. ![]() RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - GMDino - 06-09-2017 https://thinkprogress.org/ryan-defends-trump-3c48c4d36573 Quote:While former FBI Director James Comey testified before Congress on Thursday, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) attempted to defend the president by claiming that Trump doesn’t know what he’s doing. As I said yesterday: Deflect to "he wasn't under investigation" and deny everything else. Now they can blame the "smart" guy who said this would "easy" for not being able to listen to the people around him. And if anyone acts surprised that Trump acts that way I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - michaelsean - 06-09-2017 (06-09-2017, 09:50 AM)GMDino Wrote: https://thinkprogress.org/ryan-defends-trump-3c48c4d36573 Is that like trying, and in this case I really mean trying, to highlight the parts you think are important? RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - Dill - 06-09-2017 (06-09-2017, 04:43 AM)Bengalzona Wrote: A start. But how about a background check? That is the essence of any clearance--not whether the subject has been in the military or whatever. But I am thinking she must have had SOME level of clearance already to be doing what she was doing. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - GMDino - 06-09-2017 https://newrepublic.com/article/143184/trump-ignorant-guilty-hes-ignorant-president Quote:If Trump Is Too Ignorant to Be Guilty, He’s Too Ignorant to Be President So while to some he may have appeared to be the perfect outsider, instead he is exactly what he seemed to be on the campaign trail: Stuck in doing things "his way" and unwilling to learn how to do things within the framework of the government that helps avoid things like needing a special prosecutor to determine how badly things were done. RE: Comey's opening statement is out. - Dill - 06-09-2017 (06-09-2017, 09:50 AM)GMDino Wrote: https://thinkprogress.org/ryan-defends-trump-3c48c4d36573 I am neither a millionaire businessman nor a career politician, yet I understand perfectly why I might not be under investigation while an investigation into people around me continues. I also understand that if I am not guilty of anything then best let the investigation go forward and clear me. To interfere makes me look guilty or stupid or both. I would understand this even better were I surrounded by a staff of professional legal/political counsel, making me even more likely, were I president, to let the investigation go and get on top of my responsibilities--like nominating people for the still unfilled executive branch positions. |