(10-29-2020, 01:15 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Jordan had his best game of the year against the Browns. 

(10-29-2020, 01:16 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I wouldn't sign him for anything more than this year and let's see how it plays out. 

(10-29-2020, 10:42 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Here's all I could find on Spain, as I'm not a PFF subscriber

2015  63.2  1 penalty  2 sacks
2016  84.2  7 penalties  2 sacks
2017  63.5  5 penalties  4 sacks
2018  67.7  6 penalties  1 sack
2019  55.4  4 penalties  0 sacks
2020  60.6  1 penalty  0 sacks

(10-29-2020, 10:34 AM)Bengalitis Wrote: Noooooo, Hopkins IS good. 

(10-29-2020, 01:37 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: Not to worry....from what I've been reading this morning, Spain is a pretty safe bet to be signed, after that, there is talk of trading Billy Price. That puts Spain and XSF as the potential starters after the bye, Jordan and Finney as the backups (and Redmond if they don't cut him), with Finney also backing up Hopkins. I wouldn't hate it. 

(10-29-2020, 01:25 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Spain has had 2 years in a row not giving up a sack. I think we can safely say right now he is much better than Jordan.

Start the best player and with the way Spain pass protects it would really help out Burrow more than a hurt Jordan.


Pretty great rating there in 2016 I must say.

(10-29-2020, 01:45 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Spain's numbers are impressive and he is an instant upgrade to the line. Also nice that he will get the bye week to adjust and get some reps.

I just still can't figure out why Buffalo cut ties with him??? There has to be something that isn't being reported.

(10-29-2020, 01:39 PM)Yojimbo Wrote: Would be in a better situation than how the season started. So, not an easy thing to do, improving the Oline in season with players from outside.

(10-29-2020, 02:14 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I just heard that he lost the starting position to another player, so they wanted to cut his salary.

(10-29-2020, 02:15 PM)RiverRat13 Wrote: The Bengals have one guy (Jonah) that is a quality starter.  They have a group of guys (Hart, Jordan, Finney, Hopkins, XSF and hopefully Spain) who if two of them were starting, you could still have a good line as long as the other three guys are really good.  But if four of them are starting, you are in trouble.  So I don't care how "decent" that any one player of that group looks individually, they still need to upgrade two spots in the offseason.

(10-29-2020, 01:45 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Spain's numbers are impressive and he is an instant upgrade to the line. Also nice that he will get the bye week to adjust and get some reps.

I just still can't figure out why Buffalo cut ties with him??? There has to be something that isn't being reported.

(10-29-2020, 02:14 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I just heard that he lost the starting position to another player, so they wanted to cut his salary.

(10-29-2020, 02:26 PM)QueenCity Wrote: 20 page thread on Spain release on Bills forum

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/227886-quinton-spain-released-likely-to-sign-with-bengals/#comments

From what I gathered the Bills just extended him last off-season and was thrilled.  Lots of confusion about the release. This may of been a case like Dunlap was for us a disgruntled Vet with odds with the coaches.  Also rumors he came into the Bills camp out of shape.. and lastly a mysterious foot injury before the Titans game likely not a real injury.

(10-29-2020, 02:26 PM)QueenCity Wrote: 20 page thread on Spain release on Bills forum

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/227886-quinton-spain-released-likely-to-sign-with-bengals/#comments

From what I gathered the Bills just extended him last off-season and was thrilled.  Lots of confusion about the release. This may of been a case like Dunlap was for us a disgruntled Vet with odds with the coaches.  Also rumors he came into the Bills camp out of shape.. and lastly a mysterious foot injury before the Titans game likely not a real injury.

(10-29-2020, 02:20 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Well both these guys are better pass protectors than what we have, so line them up and let Joe have some better protection to sling the ball.

(10-29-2020, 03:12 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Awesome, thanks

Hopefully he comes in here and takes hold of a spot on the line and just holds onto it. Need a Boling type of guy. Not flashy, just solid and do your job.

(10-29-2020, 02:14 PM)Sled21 Wrote: I just heard that he lost the starting position to another player, so they wanted to cut his salary.

(10-29-2020, 02:26 PM)QueenCity Wrote: 20 page thread on Spain release on Bills forum

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/227886-quinton-spain-released-likely-to-sign-with-bengals/#comments

From what I gathered the Bills just extended him last off-season and was thrilled.  Lots of confusion about the release. This may of been a case like Dunlap was for us a disgruntled Vet with odds with the coaches.  Also rumors he came into the Bills camp out of shape.. and lastly a mysterious foot injury before the Titans game likely not a real injury.

(10-29-2020, 02:26 PM)QueenCity Wrote: 20 page thread on Spain release on Bills forum

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/227886-quinton-spain-released-likely-to-sign-with-bengals/#comments

From what I gathered the Bills just extended him last off-season and was thrilled.  Lots of confusion about the release. This may of been a case like Dunlap was for us a disgruntled Vet with odds with the coaches.  Also rumors he came into the Bills camp out of shape.. and lastly a mysterious foot injury before the Titans game likely not a real injury.

(10-29-2020, 03:24 PM)TJHoushmandzadeh Wrote: Ironically to a player the Bengals tried to move up to draft.

You may remember that the Bengals tried to trade up to take an O-lineman at the top of the 2nd round in 2019 but teams were asking too much.

It's highly likely that the Bengals were targeting Cody Ford, who had met with the Bengals prior to the draft and exactly matches what Jim Turner looks for.

Instead the Bills traded up two spots (it cost them only a 5th) to 38 to grab him. The Bengals were back at 42 as a result of having won an end of season game that didn't matter.


A disgruntled Bills O-lineman -what could go wrong?