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RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 10-18-2019 (10-18-2019, 01:58 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: LOL and a Press statement denouncing the video means nothing right? Yep, ofc it means nothing to you. You will never be happy with anything he does. So I give it up to you. Just keep being you! :) Like the MSM you just can't help yourself. but really. I'm glad people like you are out there doing all you can to get more votes to DJT. It means that some of the sane, reasonable people left in the admin knew they had to CYA. It is in no way a defense of Trump himself not saying a words about it. DJT comments on everything and anything. All day long. When he doesn't say something it is news. But you know that. You're just "triggered" because your boy looks bad. But a new hat....it will make you feel better and like you're part of "something"! ![]() RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Mike M (the other one) - 10-18-2019 (10-18-2019, 12:42 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Now I am totally confused. We know you're confused, I can't help you with that. Maybe one of our other posters can assist you with your personal dilemma. Coming out is never easy, but we're all here to support you. :andy: Oh I'm fine with it, I'm just playing the liberal "triggered" game. I stooped to his level, you're right, I shouldn't have done that. I'll stop falling for his shaming tactics and go back to starving him of attention. Oh Look, more shaming tactics. RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Dill - 10-18-2019 (10-16-2019, 07:07 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Yes I get it about the Celebs, but they actually did/said it and openly endorse the removal of Trump by any means. I don't think anyone is accusing Trump of making the video. The outrage stems from the message and full on support and defense of it by Trumpsters. This is less about "making fun" of politicians, which is done every night on talk shows by comedians in the US, than it is about Trump's style and the content of his policies. The curious double standard running through discussion of the video has implications beyond humor.Trump can lie all day long without losing support, while accusing the MSM of lying when it tells the plain truth about his words and deeds. Millions believe him when calls the press the "enemy of the people." That is what authoritarian leaders do to limit and distort the kind of information required for an informed electorate. Trump defenses are all about "hate" rather than determinable facts. Those who criticize Trump for exactly what people should criticize him for--vulgar behavior, using the office to enrich himself, getting hundreds of our allies killed--are just people who would "criticize him no matter what." That's like saying that when CNN fired kathy griffin for her beheaded Trump photograph, they would have fired her for anything. As I have said before, you cannot defend Trump without lowering ethical standards nor support him without abandoning democratic norms. If enough people agree with him that the MSM is fake news, then we are in a crisis of democracy. Enough of the electorate has simply separated its politics from factual and logical accountability to keep him in power and damaging US interests. I can't sit back and laugh at that. RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - fredtoast - 10-18-2019 (10-18-2019, 02:55 PM)Dill Wrote: accusing the MSM of lying when it tells the plain truth about his words and deeds. Millions believe him when calls the press the "enemy of the people." That is what authoritarian leaders do to limit and distort the kind of information required for an informed electorate. This. A joke about a racial stereotype from a stand up comedian can be funny because the comedian does not have a history as endorsing that stereotype as true. That same joke coming from David Duke is cause for concern. Trump has repeatedly disparaged the media as corrupt "enemies of the state". Citizens are justified in killing enemies of the state. And the crowds go into a frenzy at his campaign rallies when he attacks the press. So when the video is shown by a Pro-Trump group at a conference at a Trump resort it is a cause for concern. RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Mike M (the other one) - 10-18-2019 (10-18-2019, 02:55 PM)Dill Wrote: I don't think anyone is accusing Trump of making the video. I've never claimed that it was fake. They've done a good enough job burying themselves with the half truths and misleading statements and cutting of interviewees in mid sentence to build a story. If you can't admit they do that, then tell me which network is a reliable evenly biased news source. I personally use a left and right source and try to find the middle ground. It's like 2 kids fighting, each has their own story, but the absolute truth lies somewhere in between. For MSM it's all about baiting and getting those little clicks. Many people won't pay attention if it's not dramatized/sensationalized/and zingers batted back and forth. The days of Family Ties is long gone, people want Honey Boo Boo/NBA Wives drama now. It's just a cultural shift. Maybe in a few years, people will tire of it and it'll shift back or shift to the next big thing. RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Nately120 - 10-18-2019 There is so much fake tough guy crap for Trump from that video to flags with his head on Rambos body that I can't fathom that his supporters take it or him seriously. It's like that stupid Michael Dukakis in a tank "see how tough I am" photo over and over again. Lordy. RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - ballsofsteel - 10-18-2019 (10-18-2019, 03:45 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: I've never claimed that it was fake. They've done a good enough job burying themselves with the half truths and misleading statements and cutting of interviewees in mid sentence to build a story. If you can't admit they do that, then tell me which network is a reliable evenly biased news source. I personally use a left and right source and try to find the middle ground. It's like 2 kids fighting, each has their own story, but the absolute truth lies somewhere in between.Honey Boo Boo's parents, Mama June and Sugar Bear are Trump lovers like you. ![]() RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Dill - 10-18-2019 (10-18-2019, 03:45 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: I've never claimed that it was fake. They've done a good enough job burying themselves with the half truths and misleading statements and cutting of interviewees in mid sentence to build a story. If you can't admit they do that, then tell me which network is a reliable evenly biased news source. I personally use a left and right source and try to find the middle ground. It's like 2 kids fighting, each has their own story, but the absolute truth lies somewhere in between. Thanks for the response O-Mike. Glad you are still hanging in there. Like you, I get news from different sources. "Right and left" are not my first consideration. I am not looking for "evenly biased sources" at all. I am FIRST concerned about competence, clear presentation of factual record, and required background information to contextualize events--in short quality, professional journalism. Only SECOND am I concerned with how different (right/MSM/left) news sources report and drive differing narratives. I have to watch bad news/disinformation sources now, because they set the agenda as much as professional news sources. So I don't really see "two kids fighting." I see adults "adulting" and some kids trying to get attention. So some news organizations certainly seem more "kid-like" and less professional than others. Take Fox. They have people I think are professional, like Baer and Wallace, but they also put out HOURS of commentary analogous to Kremlin propaganda. They don't shy from conspiracy theories. They cannot see a quid pro quo in the summary of the Trump/Zelenskyy call, but they can see how Trump is fighting corruption when he demands the Ukraine and China investigate a political opponent. Tucker, Laura and Sean simply shill for the president. If you want to know about Trump's amazing stamina and how tired and saggy Pelosi looks they'll give you their impressions. Weak interviews. Loud but anxious laughter at Dems suffering Trump derangement syndrome, as Trump shoots himself in one foot when he insists the G7 meet at his golf resort (while an IMPEACHMENT inquiry is underway, no less), and shoots himself in the other foot when he abandons our allies and backs down from Erdogan. MSNBC and CNN have some propagandistic moments. I find Lawrence O'Donnell often tiresome, talking about personalities rather than news on and on. But Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes are something else--first rate contextualization of news events. Serious interviews. But Trump supporters rarely appear. CNN has good debates and analysis. Both are professional, much less drama, and so not the mirror-image of Fox. As far as US newspapers and investigative journalism, the New York Times is still the gold standard. Followed by the Washington Post. They make errors and can get fooled (e.g., Saddam's WMDs) but they do better than anyone else. WSJ is good for economic news and analysis. Some magazines are also good, not for news, but for more in-depth contextualization--the Atlantic, the New Yorker, the Nation, sometimes the National Review. At the other end of the spectrum, where conspiracy thrives, I see Breitbart, the WND, and Infowars, which has the president's ear. Final point, book length treatments of political and historical issues, along with foreign policy journals, are really my ground for understanding and judging current politics, and assessing daily news. Where possible I read primary sources as well--War Powers Act, Tower Commision, Iraq report, Green New Deal, Mueller Report, Supreme court decisions, etc. RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 10-24-2019
RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 10-24-2019 Well he said "don't hurt them" so we HAVE to take Trump at his word!!! (Just ignore the j/o hand move as he walks away from the podium, that's all.) ![]()
RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 10-25-2019 https://sports.yahoo.com/report-mlb-umpire-threatens-to-buy-ar-15-start-cival-war-over-trump-impeachment-hearings-234819500.html Quote:Veteran MLB umpire Rob Drake threatened on Twitter on Tuesday to buy an AR-15 for war over the impeachment hearings facing President Donald Trump, ESPN’s Jeff Passan reports. RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 10-28-2019 https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/10/28/michigan-auto-shops-scarecrow-showed-trump-holding-obama-head-on-rope/2478374001/ Quote:Michigan auto shop's display of Trump with Obama's head on rope draws outrage Well OF COURSE he doesn't support one candidate over another! Where would anyone get THAT idea?!?! ![]() RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 11-04-2019 https://www.newsweek.com/us-citizen-attacked-battery-acid-invading-america-1469696?utm_source=Public&utm_medium=Feed&utm_campaign=Distribution Quote:U.S. CITIZEN ATTACKED WITH BATTERY ACID FOR 'INVADING' AMERICA RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - hollodero - 11-05-2019 "The baby is born. The mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby. They wrap the baby beautifully, and then the doctor and the mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby." Trump describes liberal policies as such. Is that misinformation meant to inspire hate against those childmurderers? I'd say so. He also calls media folks terrible and enemy of the people, his adversaries are "human scum" or America-hating socialists, or he gives them derogatory nicknames, he peddled birtherism and called Obama a sick man, he asked for protesters to be beat up like in the good old times, suggested that bullets dropped in swine blood are good against muslims, told congresswomen of color to go where they came from, initiated lock her up chants, asssociated Mexicans and lottery immigrants with rapists and murderers and massive voter fraud scams, he talks of the world as a bunch of ganefs who just take advantage of the US, he... [10.000 more lines] - and I do not get how this question can even be debated. Hate and anger are the motivational factors he banks on. RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 11-29-2019 Here's a fun read.
RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - Belsnickel - 11-29-2019 Trump's base right there. RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - BmorePat87 - 12-02-2019 (11-29-2019, 09:56 AM)GMDino Wrote: Here's a fun read. Make friends with pieces of shit and they'll likely treat you like shit. Though, you better be careful about calling people white supremacist here. Many here take issue for using that label when the accused are simply professing the belief that other races are inherently less intelligent and that only white people should be in the US. ![]() RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 12-02-2019 (12-02-2019, 01:12 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Make friends with pieces of shit and they'll likely treat you like shit. ![]() RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - GMDino - 12-10-2019
RE: Does Trump inspire hate from his followers? - JustWinBaby - 12-11-2019 Seriously? Do i honestly still need to prove TDS exists?!? |