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RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Nately120 - 03-04-2021 The whole thing is extra moot because republicans aren't going to use their power to force Hasbro and the estate of Theodore Geisel to print and market products against their will. Like the "stolen election" it's just a bunch of "Here is some BS you want to hear...now vote for us so we can give more money to the ultra rich." I expect BS from politicians, but this is getting pretty damn wacky. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Tiger Teeth - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 09:14 AM)Nately120 Wrote: The scandalous books all 6 of em are on a shelf 5 feet from me as I type this. Im the last free man om earth. Suck it! Do not read them in a boat... Do not read them with a goat. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - fredtoast - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 01:08 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Sure, but as stated earlier, I think social media has really changed the game. It's essentially the same as you describe above but now on steroids. Social media was around when the right tried to cancel Kaepernick. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 01:11 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Social media doesn't spread propaganda, people spread propaganda. Social media makes it infinitely easier to spread propaganda. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Nately120 - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 01:46 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Social media makes it infinitely easier to spread propaganda. That it does. It's almost like those old sci fi movies were trying to warn us about this sort of thing. Oh well. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - GMDino - 03-04-2021 I don't know if this is to far off topic but since some are talking about what "social media" does: https://www.protocol.com/facebook-misinformation-far-right-politics [/url] Quote:POLITICS RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 01:50 PM)Nately120 Wrote: That it does. It's almost like those old sci fi movies were trying to warn us about this sort of thing. Oh well. That's what makes the Twilight Zone, IMO, the best television series ever. It certainly got uneven towards the end, but Sterling absolutely hammered away at group think and loss of individuality on a near weekly basis. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - hollodero - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 01:21 PM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: Do not read them in a boat... I have a question. What does "Sam-I-Am" mean? Heard Ted Cruz reciting that, but this word/name made no sense to me. Not that reading a children's poem in Congress makes much sense to me in the first place, but that still occupied my mind. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 01:57 PM)hollodero Wrote: I have a question. What does "Sam-I-Am" mean? It's typical Dr. Seuss prose. He uses it frequently in his books, I think likely to make the text more entertaining for children. Instead of saying "I am Sam" the character in Green Eggs and Ham says "Sam I am". Just think of how Yoda talks, which I know is funny as in most languages Yoda's sentence structure would be correct. Or more correct anyways. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - hollodero - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 02:00 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: It's typical Dr. Seuss prose. He uses it frequently in his books, I think likely to make the text more entertaining for children. Instead of saying "I am Sam" the character in Green Eggs and Ham says "Sam I am". Just think of how Yoda talks, which I know is funny as in most languages Yoda's sentence structure would be correct. Or more correct anyways. Yeah I thought about it being Yoda language at first, but to me it seems the person was not really saying that he is Sam. Sam-I-Am rather appears to be the person he is talking to. Kinda Sam-You-Are in Yodaish. "I do not like them, I am Sam" would make little sense to me too. Glad this important topic is finally on the table :) RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - TheUberHuber - 03-04-2021 (03-02-2021, 10:47 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: This is getting ridiculous. Faux outrage RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Nately120 - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 01:57 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: That's what makes the Twilight Zone, IMO, the best television series ever. It certainly got uneven towards the end, but Sterling absolutely hammered away at group think and loss of individuality on a near weekly basis. Yeah, all that stuff was basically the way of sneaking skepticism of our society into the mainstream without being direct and being labeled a commie radical. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Wes Mantooth - 03-04-2021 The cynic in me doubts the sincerity in pretty much every single move like this (when a company/organization acts on their own or first). Take the Mr. Potato news a week or so ago. For those that don't know, the parent company of Mr. Potato Head decided to change the name of the line to "Potato Head", which I still think consists of a Mr. and Mrs. (and some others???). I forget the stated reason for this by it was probably in the name of inclusion or something their marketing and PR department's came up with. This got SO much traction in the news. Did anyone call for this? (I don't know and frankly, I don't care) But I think we can assume their wasn't a mob of people outside of Hasboro's headquarters, or there weren''t more than a few hundred weirdos on Twitter leading the charge. So why did they do it? Why did they "cave". Well the answer is, they didn't cave. This was all a coordinated stunt. On any given day, how many people are engaging in Mr. Potato Head talk? How many are considering buying one? (I don't know, maybe a few hundred????) Well, guess what? With Mr. Potato entering into identity politics in one single day the name "Mr. Potato Head" was uttered in millions of households. A charater I honestly kinda forgot even existed was on numerous websites, and talked about on numerous shows. Mr. Potato Head just got millions of dollars of free advertisement, and was the talk of the town (you can't buy this amount of attention) Long story short, Mr. Potato Head changing to Potato Head was a smart business move, and it was most likely intentionally made with that in mind, not being more inclusive. I kinda feel the same way here. Dr. Seuss was on a bunch of best seller lists yesterday. The timing of this, along with his birthday, seems like great marketing. Is it cyncical of me to realize that more money is being made here, and that might drive these decision more than removing "problematic" material? And Brad's point isn't entitely lost on me. Not at all. Regardless of who actually did the cancelling, or what drove the decision, I don't think you can argue this all getting a little ridiculous. From Mark Twain to Dr. Seuss, to the Sound of Music, to the Muppets (yes, the Muppets), this seems now seems neverending. I even saw something the other day that some movie channel (TCM???) was going to run a marathon of movies that feature "problematic" material and they were going to have a segment before each one to discuss it. One of those movies was Psycho. Why? Because Norman Bates is dressed up as his mother later in the movie and this makes trans people seem unstable (I'm paraphrasing). Forget the fact that Bates isn't trans at all it's mentioned he has borderline personality disorder. Anways, I'll just wrap up here.... I don't think any of these companies do anything that doesn't result in their best interest. And too many people get caught up in the sides of it, while they laugh all the way to the bank. PS How in the hell has the Toxic Avenger not been cancelled? It today's political climate, simply viewing should probably result in some calls for prison time. You wanna talk about offensive (and hliarious)??? RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Mickeypoo - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 01:11 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Social media doesn't spread propaganda, people spread propaganda. Neither do guns, but people sure get a warm fuzzy feeling by keeping me from putting a cosmetic AR kit on my 10/22. Morons. It's all about the warm fuzzies and not reality. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Mickeypoo - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 01:12 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: 1. Those books objectively have offensive content in them. It's not like someone is overreacting to anything. The books had harmful racial stereotypes in them. That's not really disputable. Really? Harmful? Getting shot is harmful. A picture in a Dr. Seuss book from decades ago is not "harmful". RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Belsnickel - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 02:55 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Neither do guns, but people sure get a warm fuzzy feeling by keeping me from putting a cosmetic AR kit on my 10/22. Morons. Well, the problem with an AR kit on your 10/22 is that ARs are ugly and the wood stock of a 10/22 is a nice looking design. You shouldn't sully that rifle that way. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Mickeypoo - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 03:22 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, the problem with an AR kit on your 10/22 is that ARs are ugly and the wood stock of a 10/22 is a nice looking design. You shouldn't sully that rifle that way. Lol, it's just a dark, composite stock. I just wanted to make it a little more fun for the kids and the kit was very inexpensive. Oh well, no soup for you. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - Belsnickel - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 03:29 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Lol, it's just a dark, composite stock. I'm just a wood stock guy. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - hollodero - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 03:01 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Really? Harmful? Getting shot is harmful. A picture in a Dr. Seuss book from decades ago is not "harmful". I don't want to judge one way or another. But racial stereotypes, and spreading them, is probably considered inherently harmful. Said stereotypes could make many people's life harder, aka "is harmful", when people are confronted with them, judged because of them or denied their chances because of them. Again, not passing judgment beyond that remark. I'm just here to get alternative explanations for that "Sam-I-Am" thing. RE: The Left Is Cancelling Dr Seuss - CJD - 03-04-2021 (03-04-2021, 03:01 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Really? Harmful? Getting shot is harmful. A picture in a Dr. Seuss book from decades ago is not "harmful". Explaining why racism is harmful, especially racism that is literally targeted towards children who could then grow up to believe and propagate those stereotypes and racist images, is not something I'm going to waste my time doing. You need to stop being so blatant about your trolling. It's too obvious. No one is this stupid. |