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RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - Au165 - 07-28-2017 (07-28-2017, 09:31 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/28/politics/behind-mccain-health-care-vote/index.html Proud of McCain for both the vote and the comments about the issues around the partisan politics pulling down our government right now. I wonder if him seeing his mortality coming over the horizon has changed his view on things. RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - Belsnickel - 07-28-2017 (07-28-2017, 09:48 AM)Au165 Wrote: Proud of McCain for both the vote and the comments about the issues around the partisan politics pulling down our government right now. I wonder if him seeing his mortality coming over the horizon has changed his view on things. I think some of the commentary from his colleagues in Washington may have also helped push him in that direction. RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - Au165 - 07-28-2017 (07-28-2017, 10:02 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I think some of the commentary from his colleagues in Washington may have also helped push him in that direction. I had heard he met with democrats throughout the day. I wonder if he was getting assurances the Democrats would be willing to make some changes to the current healthcare structure. RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - CageTheBengal - 07-28-2017 ![]() RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - GMDino - 07-28-2017 McConnell is back to asking Democrats what THEIR suggestions are. Do you think that is sincere or just passing the buck...again. The party of "no" had proven (again) that they cannot govern...only obstruct. Given power they flail about unable to decide what to do because some want to do as much damage as possible to anything any liberal might like and some want to do less because they understand their constituents are people too. RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - Au165 - 07-28-2017 (07-28-2017, 10:36 AM)GMDino Wrote: McConnell is back to asking Democrats what THEIR suggestions are. I mean this is how it should work as far as asking for their input, not releasing it in the middle of the night and trying to pass it two hours later. RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - Belsnickel - 07-28-2017 (07-28-2017, 10:36 AM)GMDino Wrote: McConnell is back to asking Democrats what THEIR suggestions are. It's passing the buck. The GOP is doing everything they can to blame Democrats for this debacle. I saw the Senate GOP Twitter account lambasting Democrats for not voting for the single-payer bill that went up. What they don't tell you is that almost all of the Democrats voted "present." What this means in parliamentary terms is that they agree with the premise of the bill but do not agree with the details. The issue is going to be that the GOP has been pushing so hard for a "repeal and replace [with something more conservative]" that they will have to do that. However, there is no health care reform that will be both more conservative and not result in a loss of coverage for people and/or an increase in costs. From a policy perspective it just can't happen. So they can say all they want that they want to hear suggestions from Democrats, but everything is going to be too "big government" for the liking of the GOP and their voters. The reason for this is because we have dealt with 8 years of the GOP telling everyone that Obamacare might as well be socialism and telling fairy tales of how evil and big government it is when it was cooked up by the Heritage Foundation almost 50 years ago now as a small government solution to controlling healthcare costs and increasing coverage, but because it had Obama's name on it and the Democrats made it happen it was automatically bad. I may be a little pissed off about how the lying, bullshit rhetoric of the GOP and the shitty neo-liberal policies of the Democrats have caused this shitstorm of ****-wittage that is screwing over the American people. RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - Yojimbo - 07-28-2017 (07-28-2017, 11:08 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: It's passing the buck. The GOP is doing everything they can to blame Democrats for this debacle. I saw the Senate GOP Twitter account lambasting Democrats for not voting for the single-payer bill that went up. What they don't tell you is that almost all of the Democrats voted "present." What this means in parliamentary terms is that they agree with the premise of the bill but do not agree with the details. Couldn't agree more with your last paragraph. RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - GMDino - 09-16-2017 Your rates are going up...thank President Trump. Oh, and he told you he was going to do it... http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/09/cbo-obamacare-premiums-are-rising-and-trump-is-to-blame.html Quote:CBO: Obamacare Premiums Are Rising — and Trump Is to Blame RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - GMDino - 09-20-2017 [/url] Quote:WATCH: Jimmy Kimmel: 'Bill Cassidy Lied To My Face' RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - StLucieBengal - 09-20-2017 Unless it's total repeal and a rollback of all insurance regulations then I am not interested. I want to see them truly start from scratch. RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - BmorePat87 - 09-20-2017 (09-20-2017, 11:12 AM)GMDino Wrote: [url=http://crooksandliars.com/2017/09/jimmy-kimmel-bill-cassidy-lied-my-face][/url] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/09/20/does-jimmy-kimmel-really-understand-the-gop-health-care-bill/?utm_term=.eb5e3df96be5 RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - GMDino - 09-20-2017 (09-20-2017, 02:24 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/09/20/does-jimmy-kimmel-really-understand-the-gop-health-care-bill/?utm_term=.eb5e3df96be5 So Kimmel was right? ![]() RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - BmorePat87 - 09-20-2017 (09-20-2017, 02:36 PM)GMDino Wrote: So Kimmel was right? figured you'd want to read that article RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - GMDino - 09-20-2017 (09-20-2017, 02:44 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: figured you'd want to read that article Just a lot of variables and not not many guarantees. I think that's the biggest rub. RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - GMDino - 09-20-2017 Even the POTUS doesn't know what's in it.
Smoke and mirrors and his minions won't even realize how bad they are being screwed. They'll blame "government" (Democrats). ![]() RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - StLucieBengal - 09-21-2017 (09-20-2017, 02:36 PM)GMDino Wrote: So Kimmel was right? What Kimmel describes.... the medical care you need when you need it ..... there is no country who offers this.... even the socialized medical countries have rationing. Medical insurance is broken into three areas. Quality, affordability, max coverage. You can only have two of those three. It's not possible to have all three. Which two would you choose? RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - GMDino - 09-21-2017 (09-21-2017, 08:10 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: What Kimmel describes.... the medical care you need when you need it ..... there is no country who offers this.... even the socialized medical countries have rationing. If forced to choose I would take the first two. I believe that we have none of them now so let's shoot for the moon. My question: What about this new bill improves any of those three areas? RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 09-21-2017 (09-21-2017, 08:10 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: What Kimmel describes.... the medical care you need when you need it ..... there is no country who offers this.... even the socialized medical countries have rationing. For 80% of the country, insurance is broken in to two areas: what your employer offers or what the government provides. The medical care you need when you need it? Do you know who goes without medical care the most? The ones on your beloved open market. RE: Republicans do not want the country to know what is in their health care bill. - michaelsean - 09-21-2017 (09-21-2017, 08:51 AM)GMDino Wrote: If forced to choose I would take the first two. It keeps everything exactly as it is now, because it's not going anywhere. You only need a couple of Republicans to go the other way, and I think that's a lock. I emailed Rob Portman. Told him I'm a lifelong Republican voter. I didn't like Obamacare, but they won that fight and whatever you do now is going to blow up in your face. |