(10-13-2015, 12:29 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Your views on same sex marriage alone.

(10-13-2015, 11:27 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Well, then;  both the incidence and the precedence prevelence of persecution amoung overweight kids, kids with glasses, and kids with braces are all increased compared to Christian kids.  I would ventrure to say kids of other faiths are persecuted more than Christian kids.

oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote:Who are these Christian kids being persecuted by?  Gangs of athiest kids roaming the hallway?  Muslim kids?  Sikhs?

(10-13-2015, 01:05 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Probably so, but that doesn't change the fact that it happens and by the literal definition of the word is considered persecution.



Does it matter? Are you trying to imply that persecution (even as tiny as what most American Christians face) is justifiable depending on who is doing the persecution?

(10-13-2015, 01:05 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Probably so, but that doesn't change the fact that it happens and by the literal definition of the word is considered persecution.



Does it matter? Are you trying to imply that persecution (even as tiny as what most American Christians face) is justifiable depending on who is doing the persecution?

(10-13-2015, 05:46 PM)GodHatesBengals Wrote: Look, if you want to call schoolyard taunts and bullying "persecution", then fine.

That means every kid in America has been persecuted; for being a Christian, for being Muslim, for being atheist, for being fat, for being ugly, for being stupid, for being shy, for being pimply, for being annoying, for being smelly, for being gay, for being weird..... etc. etc. etc. until the end of time.

(10-12-2015, 09:57 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Kids in schools who are picked on and bullied for being Christian. 

(10-14-2015, 11:44 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Considering that an overwhelming majority of students are Christians I don't see how this could be a very big problem.  It is pretty rare for the majority to be persecuted by the minority.

Here where I live the non-Christian students are the ones who are victims of persecution at the hands of the Christians.

(10-13-2015, 01:38 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/05/persecution_of_christians_in_america_its_not_just_over_there.html

(10-13-2015, 03:31 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: They can't admit it happens.   Persecution is wrong in every other sense but when it comes to Christians......  They just say It's their own fault.

(10-14-2015, 11:44 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Considering that an overwhelming majority of students are Christians I don't see how this could be a very big problem.  It is pretty rare for the majority to be persecuted by the minority.

Here where I live the non-Christian students are the ones who are victims of persecution at the hands of the Christians.

(10-14-2015, 11:52 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: It depends on the area you are in. In the rural areas around where I live, I wouldn't see it happening. In the school I went to which is more urban, it absolutely happened. Students that wore their faith in the open were rare. Most would identify as Christian, but a minority would do so in an open manner. And if those that did hung out with kids that were assholes (like I was in my youth) then they could end up being bullied because of their faith.

(10-14-2015, 11:54 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Well, it happened to me when I was a kid (I lived in a high Jewish area during my high school years) and it happened to my oldest daughter as well (in KY no less) so it does happen.

(10-14-2015, 12:03 PM)djs7685 Wrote: Yep, it's all dependent on where you live. I was shamed for not being a Christian by my high school English teacher in front of my entire class as a senior. It was quite ridiculous. I've been a big fan of black and death metal for a lot of my life, and their band shirts often have anti-religious graphics, quotes, and whatnot. I was just really into the bands, it's not like I was running through the halls lighting Christians on fire and chucking bibles through the windows.

While I understand the technical definition of "persecution", I, much like you, wouldn't call it that because that just makes it seem so much worse than it was in reality. In a discussion like this one though, shouldn't we ignore the semantics and actually argue over the premise of the "understood" meaning when somebody is talking about religious persecution?

(10-14-2015, 12:05 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I was just giving my thoughts, as a Christian, on the topic. And those were my thoughts.

(10-14-2015, 12:16 PM)djs7685 Wrote: So you do think Christians are being persecuted, but it's to the extent of occasionally getting picked on in high school? Or is it further than that in your eyes?

(10-14-2015, 12:35 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Isn't "persecution" supposed to come with being a Christian? Wasn't their savior crucified?

Don't they actually celebrate his death?

(10-14-2015, 12:35 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: Isn't "persecution" supposed to come with being a Christian?  Wasn't their savior crucified?  

Don't they actually celebrate his death?

(10-14-2015, 12:41 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I can't speak for all of Christendom, but I believe it's more about celebrating his resurrection.

(10-14-2015, 12:43 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Well, his death had to occur in order for our sins to be forgiven. It's not like Christians are happy he was killed, but rather we "celebrate" his death for what it means for us.