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RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Ben Richards - 06-07-2015 (06-07-2015, 12:08 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: How about free for those making substantial academic progress? Would seem pointless to let those without the aptitude or drive to succeed take up space and waste time and money. If someone is willing to even attempt to make an effort at higher education, they should be allowed to do so for free and for as long as they want. Progress is not something easy to define. Your idea could differ from the next, and so on and so on. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - JustWinBaby - 06-07-2015 (06-07-2015, 12:04 PM)Ben Richards Wrote: School should be free to all, I didn't say 'we' should fund it. You seem like you could use a few more years yourself. Yeah, umm, for school to be free, where does the money come from other than "we" the taxpayer? You seem like you never got any school yourself, and would appear to be exhibit A of why funding school for anyone for as long as they want is an enormously wasteful idea. And doing so without any qualification or restriction also makes it an enormously dumb idea. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 06-08-2015 http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Decline_of_the_Middle_Class_in_Philadelphia.html?c=r This is more of a case study involving a single city, Philadelphia In the city the lower income grew by 17% while the upper income dropped by 1%. In the suburbs the lower income grew by 5% while the upper income grew by 11%. Combining city and suburban figures: lower income 17%+5%=22%, upper income -1%+11%=10% I multiplied the percentages of each category by the number of residents in 1970 and 2010 to get raw numbers of residents who moved up or down. From 1970 to 2010, the number of residents in the lower income from both the city and the suburbs increased by 461,873 residents. From 1970 to 2010, the number of residents in the upper income from both the city and the suburbs increased by 495,442 residents. So in Philadelphia the middle income is shrinking for two different reasons. An increased number of people are becoming wealthier and moving into the upper class, while an increased number of people are becoming poorer and moving into the lower class. The absolute numbers are roughly the same in both directions. It's real easy to say everyone has the same chance, but the numbers don't seem to bear that out for the residents of Philadelphia when the numbers on both ends of the spectrum are increasing while the middle is disappearing. That's income inequality. It's not a about taking money from you and giving it to someone else (whom you invariably believe is a lazy freeloader.) Income inequality is about the widening gap between the haves and the have-nots because the middle is disappearing. FFS! While some people are successful, it is getting more and more difficult for just as many in the middle class to keep up and it isn't because every one of them is lazy. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Ben Richards - 06-08-2015 (06-07-2015, 07:42 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Yeah, umm, for school to be free, where does the money come from other than "we" the taxpayer? You seem like you never got any school yourself, and would appear to be exhibit A of why funding school for anyone for as long as they want is an enormously wasteful idea. And doing so without any qualification or restriction also makes it an enormously dumb idea. Don't worry, nobody wants to use your greasy disgusting money. I bet you were valedictorian of your school. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Beaker - 06-08-2015 (06-07-2015, 12:14 PM)Ben Richards Wrote: If someone is willing to even attempt to make an effort at higher education, they should be allowed to do so for free and for as long as they want. Progress in academics is easy to define.....someone who is passing their classes and working towards a degree. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Ben Richards - 06-08-2015 (06-08-2015, 11:10 AM)Beaker Wrote: Progress in academics is easy to define.....someone who is passing their classes and working towards a degree. Tell that to the morons at UNC taking fake courses and passing them. I'm sure this is the only institution where that happens. Yeah, real easy to define. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Devils Advocate - 06-08-2015 source 40% of Americans earn less than 1968 minimum wage Quote:Are American workers paid enough? That is a topic that is endlessly debated all across this great land of ours. Unfortunately, what pretty much everyone can agree on is that American workers are not making as much as they used to after you account for inflation. Back in 1968, the minimum wage in the United States was $1.60 an hour. That sounds very small, but after you account for inflation a very different picture emerges. Using the inflation calculator that the Bureau of Labor Statistics provides, $1.60 in 1968 is equivalent to $10.74 today. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Ben Richards - 06-08-2015 Lock and archive. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Beaker - 06-09-2015 (06-08-2015, 09:31 PM)Ben Richards Wrote: Tell that to the morons at UNC taking fake courses and passing them. I'm sure this is the only institution where that happens. Yeah, real easy to define. Totally different situation. That isnt an example of someone tackling academics to try and better themselves...that was athletes (who didnt care about academics) "passing" courses so they could play sports and move on to professional careers with no concern for academics. Try again. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Ben Richards - 06-09-2015 (06-09-2015, 12:50 AM)Beaker Wrote: Totally different situation. That isnt an example of someone tackling academics to try and better themselves...that was athletes (who didnt care about academics) "passing" courses so they could play sports and move on to professional careers with no concern for academics. I didn't know we get to pick and choose who's grades we look at, so all athletes don't count because none of them give a shit about academics. Gotcha, brainiac. I'll pass on trying to further the discussion w you. You can play with yourself. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Beaker - 06-09-2015 (06-09-2015, 09:49 AM)Ben Richards Wrote: I didn't know we get to pick and choose who's grades we look at, so all athletes don't count because none of them give a shit about academics. Gotcha, brainiac. I'll pass on trying to further the discussion w you. You can play with yourself. Sorry the scope of the logical comparison overwhelmed you. If you can't figure out why grades for fake classes shouldn't be considered then your passing on further discussion with me will be a blessing...and to many others too. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Ben Richards - 06-09-2015 You are really naive, no wonder you have a Sesame St name. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Wyche'sWarrior - 06-09-2015 (06-08-2015, 11:40 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: source That doesn't count.....everyone is lazy..... ![]() "What we really need to do is to return to the principles that once made this country great. In early America, we protected our markets with high tariffs. Access to the U.S. market was a privilege. Foreign domination was kept out, and our economy thrived." ......I've been saying this since ten minutes after NAFTA was passed......Germany does this..... RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Beaker - 06-09-2015 (06-09-2015, 10:32 AM)Ben Richards Wrote: You are really naive, no wonder you have a Sesame St name. Easier for guys like you to understand. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Ben Richards - 06-09-2015 (06-09-2015, 10:38 AM)Beaker Wrote: Easier for guys like you to understand. You don't know me dickwad. Take your kiddie mentality back to Sesame St and **** off. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Beaker - 06-09-2015 (06-09-2015, 10:50 AM)Ben Richards Wrote: You don't know me dickwad. Take your kiddie mentality back to Sesame St and **** off. I know you obviously have to be way more mature than me with that well thought out response. Maybe you should have attempted to make more of an effort at higher education....for as long as you wanted. Then those basic concepts of logic wouldn't have so easily escaped you. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - SteelCitySouth - 06-09-2015 Ben Richards: The man that asks you to save room for his fist, while consistently ending up with other people's fists lodged firmly up his arse. Oh we know you Ben...We know you all too well. You need to eat more greens. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Ben Richards - 06-09-2015 OOooooh attacking my education! Again, you don't know me. I know that you seem to be some naive moron that believes only athletes could be subjected to fake classes and passing grades for doing nothing. Hey, it's just athletes....(insert cliche) they aren't at a place designed for education to get an education! The fact that you even mentioned logic is amusing. RE: Let's talk about income inequality - Beaker - 06-09-2015 (06-09-2015, 11:08 AM)Ben Richards Wrote: OOooooh attacking my education! Again, you don't know me. I know that you seem to be some naive moron that believes only athletes could be subjected to fake classes and passing grades for doing nothing. Hey, it's just athletes....(insert cliche) they aren't at a place designed for education to get an education! So grades for fake classes for people other than athletes should be counted? Gotcha genius. ![]() RE: Let's talk about income inequality - JustWinBaby - 06-09-2015 I'm not sure what fake classes have to do with free college for as long as you want and need. The entire idea behind investing in education is that you'll eventually do something productive with what you learned...you know, an expectation of a societal return as opposed to a free handout. Otherwise this is just enrollment in college as a qualification for unlimited welfare. |