(10-23-2022, 05:02 PM)WiregrassBenGal Wrote: Normally, I shy away from political topics. Last week at the homecoming parade, I was dismayed by the number of political floats there were and it was all Democrats. A woman tried to give me a flyer for some Dem congressperson running in Illinois, but I purposely shook my head and gave a look like she was trying to hand me poop on a stick.

(10-22-2022, 08:49 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: To be fair, Bel, comparing people to Hitler has rather become a fashionable position within the past six or so years.  I've made my extreme distaste for such declarations known in the past, multiple times, and continue to do so.  But certain people here seem to think such comparisons are not only warranted but necessary.  I'm sure those same people will have zero issues with this comparison as well.

(10-23-2022, 08:14 PM)Dill Wrote: What made them "political"? 

Did they have abortion themes and/or signs like "vote Democrat"? 

(10-21-2022, 04:55 PM)GMDino Wrote: Anyway...back to Gabbard the Grifter:

it took Gabbard two weeks of being a Republican before she started supporting Matt "teens are maximum fertility" Walsh in his anti-trans bigotry pic.twitter.com/D6Aq1iX8Kh

— SDL (@SocDoneLeft) October 21, 2022

 

(10-24-2022, 07:18 AM)WiregrassBenGal Wrote: Hi. There were three separate floats with a congressperson or senator with blue and Democrat on them, plus the float where the lady was handing out flyers had a "vote democrat" theme on them. Also, Carbondale has become an abortion mecca because nearby states KY, TN, and MO have tightened their laws. There is a new business called "Choices" that has a steady stream of protesters out front. I personally benefit from being in blue Illinois in many ways, but it still dismayed me to see this stuff at the homecoming parade.

(10-24-2022, 10:31 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: And you only have issue with this now, because she no longer posts a beloved "D" next to her name?

(10-24-2022, 10:31 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: And you only have issue with this now, because she no longer posts a beloved "D" next to her name?

(10-24-2022, 11:33 AM)GMDino Wrote: No.  I've always had a problem with anyone who speaks like this.

(10-24-2022, 12:00 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Ok, thanks for clearing that up.  I just couldn't recall you ever dumping on her, prior to her announcement of leaving the party.

(10-24-2022, 12:00 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Ok, thanks for clearing that up.  I just couldn't recall you ever dumping on her, prior to her announcement of leaving the party.

(10-24-2022, 12:21 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I get the sense that everyone around here who votes and/or leans left is overall unhappy with the vast majority of the D side of the coin.  It's hard to accuse a party of being all about the political affiliation when they simultaneously dread the notion that any democrat other than Obama could lose a race against a ham sandwich that has been christened a republican. 

(10-24-2022, 03:16 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I see the idea that the criticism is just because she is no longer a Democrat is nothing more than projection. Gabbard has been on the outs with the party a few years, now.

(10-24-2022, 04:09 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I will say I've heard the term "RINO" get thrown around with derision for a long time, but I haven't heard anyone accuse someone of being a DINO.

(10-24-2022, 04:18 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The traditional term would be a "blue dog democrat", for a Dem who leans right or the equivalent of a RINO.  Although I haven't heard the term outside of describing Manchin in years.

(10-24-2022, 04:25 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ok fair enough, and I've heard that before.  I'm just not sure if it is said with the same sort of insulting tone as calling someone a RINO is.  It's said in a matter where it's like "These people pretend to be on our side, but they aren't" sort of thing, but the GOP seems to be a bit more united on the tribalism these days.

Just to show how far things have come, the first time I heard the term RINO was prior to the 2008 election where I was having a bit of an argument/debate with my gf at the time and she wanted Sarah Palin in the white house by any means necessary and I wanted Rudy Giuliani to be president.  It was at that point when I was told he was just a RINO.  

It was framed in a manner where I was acting like I was being reasonable by pointing out that I also supported a republican, but I really wasn't because....RINO.  Oh, them old days.

(10-24-2022, 04:50 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: My memory may be failing me here, but I recall McCain being called a RINO in the '00 primary.  It was certainly used prior to that as well.

(10-24-2022, 04:25 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ok fair enough, and I've heard that before.  I'm just not sure if it is said with the same sort of insulting tone as calling someone a RINO is.  It's said in a matter where it's like "These people pretend to be on our side, but they aren't" sort of thing, but the GOP seems to be a bit more united on the tribalism these days.

Just to show how far things have come, the first time I heard the term RINO was prior to the 2008 election where I was having a bit of an argument/debate with my gf at the time and she wanted Sarah Palin in the white house by any means necessary and I wanted Rudy Giuliani to be president.  It was at that point when I was told he was just a RINO.  

It was framed in a manner where I was acting like I was being reasonable by pointing out that I also supported a republican, but I really wasn't because....RINO.  Oh, them old days.

(10-24-2022, 08:08 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: It's so interesting to me because the GOP now is nothing like the GOP of the Reagan era. Trump really caused the party to move on a lot of positions that were hallmarks of Republican ideology for a long time. Palin was a harbinger of that shift.

(10-24-2022, 08:13 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I will say the current GOP is similar to the Reagan era where they took a divorced former celebrity and democrat who hailed from a state that could be seen as a liberal hellhole and gave him the mantle of "most conservative and Christian person on earth" and ignored certain policies that didn't fly with their agenda because "Winning."