(04-24-2016, 09:53 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Ok, 9/11 is getting stale here......

DA..... while it's been around for quite some time, what are your thoughts on ECHELON and how it has advanced ?
Side question...... are you aware of any health issues it may have created ?



Another topic......

What is the skinny on Obama's Racial Database ?

(04-24-2016, 10:30 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: @Beaker

They were unknown

Yeah, they gained the most coveted job in the industry Without a budget. Seems legit. 

Yes. On 9/11  They abandoned post when their very own protocol asked them to be first responders. Firefighters and other first responders aren't efficiently trained to respond to elevator emergencies. 


But they didn't have any other large contracts And it's presumed they received some type of payment from the insurance claims. 


And Disputed. 


Ok. Doesn't debunk the fact that elevator maintence has access to the buildings core. 

True. Nevertheless, Elevators were down in the months prior, establishing plausibility. 

I have no idea why you don't think it's relevant. Considering the fact the OS goes outta it's way to say the Saudis weren't involved. 


This makes no sense. 

Maybe. But when fire fighters, their boss and qualified others say they heard explosions, in court, that would be considered pretty solid testimony. 

The rest is really inconsequential. There may not be a conspiracy, I am open to that, despite what you may think, but I have given facts concerning ACE. They had the means and time to plant explosives. But I do not have a motive. I can speculate, but then we'll just go back and forth and back again. 

So like I said previously, until any of you come up with anything, I'm moving on. 

(04-24-2016, 11:24 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: So... this couldn't just be attributed by the ACE company ineptness?  

The length of time for repair and failure to answer assumed protocol?

Just a coincidence?

Hey I'm just throwing it out there.

They could've just been in over their heads.

Large commercial airplanes flying into the biggest high rise buildings and the sheer terror/mayhem isn't necessarily a common occurrence. 

(04-24-2016, 10:08 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: Not really. That thread is separate from this one. 

In this thread you've called me nuts and implied that I am bizarre and now have said that I'm paranoid. 


I don't really care but if you're gonna go that route then don't get defensive if I reply to it. Though, I said I wouldn't reply to such things, so on that front, I Apologize. I don't take anything here personally and hope you feel the same. 

I do hope you stick around though as this is a fun place to be. 

(04-24-2016, 11:49 PM)Tiger Teeth Wrote: I'm posting my last post in this thread, to you specifically.  I lost someone very close to me in the TERRORIST attacks on 9/11.  And simply put, I find it sickening for anyone to say it was a conspiracy that had ANYTHING to do with our government.  And that my friend, is all of me in P n R.

(04-24-2016, 11:50 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Operation Jade Helm.... a dry run (no pun intended) for control of the western/southwestern population, when California exhausts their water sources and food supplies drop ?

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(04-24-2016, 05:58 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote:  I'll consider the point of ACE elevator company A solid victory for conspiracy analysts. 

(04-24-2016, 06:02 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: Compartmentalization.

 Mutually assured differences, like how politicians deal with each other. 

Bribery. 

Threats. 

Payoffs

Sex

I mean, shall I go on?

(04-24-2016, 11:32 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: Yeah this company appears to be inept and they appeared to be inept before gaining the contract, while having the contract and after the contract.  This is the WTC; the most prominent elevator system in the world. 

(04-24-2016, 11:15 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote:  Conversations you're having with you girlfriend face to face, suddenly you may start getting emails for those kitchen cabinets you've been talking about. I have personally experienced this. 

(04-25-2016, 12:16 AM)Devils Advocate Wrote: So right now I'm into biblical stuff. 

I'm reading a lot about translations and mistranslations. 


That the 'sons of God' may have been mistranslated from the 'sons of Israel'. 

If true, then how can one 'inherit' something from oneself?

That, if true, God is the son of El and not the real true God. 

I'm reading this stuff because I've been studying a lot about Giants/nephelim/The Watchers and fallen angels, the annunaki,  Sumer ancient Egypt ( ooh, let's talk about those pesky pyramids) and the like. 

Oh yeah, if you thought I was crazy before, wait til we get into this topic. 


So I don't buy much of what ancient alien theorists have to say, though to the uninformed, it will appear as though I do. 

However, I believe in ancient aliens and even an alien presence today. Well, it's not so much that I believe, it's just that if you tie into biblical accounts and some other accounts from all over the world from antiquity, it's kinda hard to ignore. 




So here I am. Ready to defend my position in the face of much scrutiny and ridicule, and prolly regret even talking about this stuff. But let's separate the wheat from the chaff.  

Anyone wanna dispute that first, God is an imposter and/or secondly that we haven't been visited and are in fact influenced to this very day by an alien presence. 

That lucifer is actually the good guy and you can't pin many misreads on him. One death and he had to ask God for permission to do that. 

I will also debunk things like much of the AA theory, at least what's presented on the television series

And debunk some of Zeitgeist's religious content. 

So go ahead and post the AA meme because it is in fact probably aliens. 

(04-24-2016, 11:50 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Operation Jade Helm.... a dry run (no pun intended) for control of the western/southwestern population, when California exhausts their water sources and food supplies drop ?

(04-25-2016, 04:55 PM)fredtoast Wrote: But you didn't come up with the idea for these type of cabinets yourself.  You had to have heard about them or looked into information about them yourself before you discussed them with your girlfriend.

Let me know when you get contacted about something unique that wasn't already out there before you spoke to someone about them.

(04-25-2016, 05:18 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: I believe he's talking about smart devices (internet connected) passive listening.  Same idea as google putting ads in front of you based on what is in your search history or the content of your emails; but with your phone or other devices picking up on keywords without your specific knowledge or permission (outside of some legalese in T&C's).  This is happening.  Trust me. 

(04-24-2016, 10:30 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: So like I said previously, until any of you come up with anything, I'm moving on. 

(04-25-2016, 05:35 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Why should I?

What special information do you have that proves this is happening?

(04-25-2016, 05:56 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: 1.  Its not special information.  See - 'Siri' / 'OK Google' / 'Alexa'
2.  An area of relative expertise.  
3.  If you want to discuss the feasibility of these tactics in regards to storage / analytics / Meta-tagging I am happy to do so.  Not hear to teach you about