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RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - Ryuko - 08-03-2015 (07-30-2015, 09:06 AM)GMDino Wrote: If the officer asks something out of bounds? If they start demanding you do things you don't have to do? What did he ask him that was "out of bounds"? To take his seat belt off? Obviously he shouldn't have been shot, but this is a red herring/straw man if I've ever seen one. (07-30-2015, 09:38 AM)Beaker Wrote: I would question the officer to make sure I heard him correctly, then do as he asks. If it was something out of bounds, I would take it up in court later. Hopefully a dash cam or body cam would support my case. But arguing, or struggling with a person who is armed and has the ability to use deadly force does not make sense to me. Maybe the end result is I am wronged, but I am also alive. Yep. Deal with all armed people the same, and you'll stay alive. Whether you're being arrested or mugged, nothing is worth making the armed guy nervous. Keep your hands visible, follow instructions, and move slowly. Nothing they want from you is worth your life, sort it out afterwards. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - GMDino - 08-03-2015 (08-03-2015, 05:37 PM)Ryuko Wrote: What did he ask him that was "out of bounds"? To take his seat belt off? I was speaking in general terms, not to this specific case. You are not required to do something or answer a question JUST because an officer told you to. And I will continue to hold police officer to a higher standard than muggers and criminals. I should not expect to get shot while being stopped by an officer even if he gets "nervous". RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - Goalpost - 08-03-2015 They are now saying that the container he handed to the cop wasn't alcohol. It was some type of fragrance put in an alcohol bottle. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - GMDino - 08-03-2015 (08-03-2015, 08:53 PM)Goalpost Wrote: They are now saying that the container he handed to the cop wasn't alcohol. It was some type of fragrance put in an alcohol bottle. Yes, yes, but the car moved. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - Rotobeast - 08-03-2015 (08-03-2015, 08:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: Yes, yes, but the car moved. The car became sentient. The officer tried to shoot it, but the driver got in the path of the shot while trying to escape the evil vehicle. Sorry.... that's the path my mind took when reading your comment. A life was lost and I shouldn't make light of it. I deserve detention. ![]() RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - Johnny Cupcakes - 08-03-2015 So....I work with Ray Tensing's uncle. He revealed it to me today during a trip to New Orleans that we're making for a job coming up. Here are some things that I got out of the convo. His family is ruined. His brother (Ray Tensing's father) is understandably a complete mess right now. They pulled together as a family and came up with the 100,000 bond needed to keep him a free man while he awaits trial, and needless to say, they're backing him up for the most part. They've all received death threats and are being actively protected by the police. I feel for their family here.....I'm sure they would not have chose this. He backed up the officer's statements, but also said that there is some legit proof that he had been dragged by the car that hasn't been made public yet. He said that he was scared for his life and being dragged under the car, so he shot him. The gin bottle was perfume, and he said that it's actually a common "hood thing" and he had 2/3 lb of weed on him. Anyway....I just thought I'd share. There are no big revelations, but interesting to me regardless. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - RoyleRedlegs - 08-04-2015 (08-03-2015, 11:32 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: So....I work with Ray Tensing's uncle. He revealed it to me today during a trip to New Orleans that we're making for a job coming up. Here are some things that I got out of the convo. This is gonna get ugly during trial if the defense can deliver even one shred of doubt in the jury... RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - fredtoast - 08-04-2015 (08-03-2015, 11:32 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: So....I work with Ray Tensing's uncle. He revealed it to me today during a trip to New Orleans that we're making for a job coming up. Here are some things that I got out of the convo. the fact that his family believes him doesn't really prove anything. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - jgott32 - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 01:33 AM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: This is gonna get ugly during trial if the defense can deliver even one shred of doubt in the jury... There will be a lot of things coming out in trial that people haven't heard about. Like the 2 lbs of weed in the car and the thousands in cash. I have a family member who processed the scene, so obviously cant say much. I said since the beginning he wouldn't get first degree, no way possible under the law does he fit that charge. Figured he'd get manslaughter. But, with new things such he may have actually been dragged like cupcake said, he may not even get that. It will def be interesting how both sides present their case. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - fredtoast - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 07:44 AM)jgott32 Wrote: There will be a lot of things coming out in trial that people haven't heard about. Like the 2 lbs of weed in the car and the thousands in cash. I have a family member who processed the scene, so obviously cant say much. Actually that info is not relevant evidence at all. It had zero influence on the officer's actions. So it will not come out at the trial. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - Johnny Cupcakes - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 01:42 AM)fnredtoast Wrote: the fact that his family believes him doesn't really prove anything. I'm pretty sure no one feels the opposite. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - Johnny Cupcakes - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 01:33 AM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: This is gonna get ugly during trial if the defense can deliver even one shred of doubt in the jury...Cincinnati, and probably the entire country, would be a mess if he got set free by a jury. I expect them to introduce some doubt, as the car clearly moved in the video before Tensing and the car separated, and their job in to defend him. In the end, I think he'll go to jail, but maybe on a lesser charge than murder. Although, in my opinion, it was clearly murder, a fair jury will not be made up of all people that think like me. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - Devils Advocate - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 08:34 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Actually that info is not relevant evidence at all. It had zero influence on the officer's actions. So it will not come out at the trial. This. It won't even be admitted as evidence. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - michaelsean - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 12:05 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: This. It won't even be admitted as evidence. It might be used by the defense as a motive for him to try to flee the scene. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - jgott32 - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 08:34 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Actually that info is not relevant evidence at all. It had zero influence on the officer's actions. So it will not come out at the trial. did I say it would be evidence exhibit A or B? The info however is relevant as to why a guy w/previous arrest would stop an officer from opening the door, start the car and attempt to flee. How do you know it had zero influence? you're not a cop, you don't know his thought process. its pretty well known that a bottle of perfume like that is used to mask the smell of, oh, you know weed. The bottle will be evidence. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - bfine32 - 08-04-2015 Thought I'd place this here only because Bland has been discussed in this thread and I didn't see it anywhere else: http://news.yahoo.com/family-of-woman-found-dead-in-texas-jail-files-wrongful-death-suit-142403022.html# Quote:The family of Sandra Bland filed a wrongful death lawsuit on Tuesday against a Texas trooper, a sheriff’s office and her jailers, accusing them of being responsible for the woman's apparent suicide in a county jail. They made her kill herself. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - fredtoast - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 12:13 PM)michaelsean Wrote: It might be used by the defense as a motive for him to try to flee the scene. (08-04-2015, 01:51 PM)jgott32 Wrote: Motive is meaningless when there is no dispute over what actually happened. If there was no video and the cop was claiming that he was trying to flee then there is a slight chance it could get in, but we don't need to establish motive because there is a video of what actually happened. RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - GMDino - 08-09-2015 http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/08/09/sam-dubose-driving-while-black/31365205/ Quote:Rap sheet of unarmed black driver killed in Ohio tells tale RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - bfine32 - 08-09-2015 The Officer freely admitted that DuBose didn't reach for anything: https://video.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xfp1/v/t42.1790-2/11759348_877091302380995_1321143424_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjQ5NiwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=496&vabr=276&oh=c33ba5e9c7ba4113777588690bc54617&oe=55C78B1B RE: Cincinnati campus officer shoots and kills unarmed black male - michaelsean - 08-09-2015 He only had more than 100 grams once when he was stopped. Well he had 2 lbs this time so what's the point? It looks like the guy was murdered. That's illegal if the victim is clean or not. 81% if Tensing's tickets were to black people? Maybe visit the neighbirhoods around UC and take a wild guess as to why that might be. We have black men killed here every week and nobody telling us how the victim with 2 lbs of pot is clean. |