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RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-18-2019 (02-18-2019, 06:47 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No. Just anti-Zionist. So you think Israel has hypnotized the world? RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - fredtoast - 02-18-2019 (02-18-2019, 07:39 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: So you think Israel has hypnotized the world? No. I think they have manipulated public opinion and used the old Christian/Muslim conflict to their advantage. Is "hypnotist" an anti-Semitic term? BTW in case you are wondering I don't believe in Allah either. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-18-2019 (02-18-2019, 07:55 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No. I think they have manipulated public opinion and used the old Christian/Muslim conflict to their advantage. Fair enough. I think it clearly is and many others do as well. Hence the disconnect on this subject. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - fredtoast - 02-18-2019 (02-18-2019, 07:59 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Fair enough. I think it clearly is and many others do as well. Hence the disconnect on this subject. And here is where we come to the issue that you try to call "whataboutism". You can't base your argument on the opinion of "many others" when their opinions are based just on political affiliation. When people on their side do the same thing they don't think it is anti-Semitic. Therefore their opinions carry no weight. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-18-2019 (02-18-2019, 08:16 PM)fredtoast Wrote: And here is where we come to the issue that you try to call "whataboutism". You're not using that term correctly. At all Quote:You can't base your argument on the opinion of "many others" when their opinions are based just on political affiliation. When people on their side do the same thing they don't think it is anti-Semitic. Therefore their opinions carry no weight. I'm basing my argument on my opinion. In this case many others share this opinion. If no one else shared this opinion I would still have this opinion. Your opinion differs, the end. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - GMDino - 02-19-2019 Take 20 minutes and listen. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/19/podcasts/the-daily/israel-democrats-ilhan-omar-rashida-tlaib.html See how this has been framed and changed over the years. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - GMDino - 03-01-2019 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/paul-lepage-electoral-college-white-people_n_5c780795e4b0d3a48b5798e5 Quote:Former Maine Governor: Bypassing Electoral College Would Silence ‘White People’ RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - GMDino - 03-13-2019 There is a "Story" about DJT complaining that Jews should like him more than the polling suggests. Within that article there are links to some things that Trump himself has said that I didn't even realize because they were so low compared to the rest of what he says and does.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/adl-trump-closing-ad-invokes-antisemitic-rhetoric Quote:The Anti-Defamation League slammed the Donald Trump campaign on Sunday for “conjuring painful stereotypes and baseless conspiracy theories” in its two-minute closing ad. Glass houses...stones...etc. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - Belsnickel - 03-13-2019 (03-13-2019, 11:56 AM)GMDino Wrote: There is a "Story" about DJT complaining that Jews should like him more than the polling suggests. But Trump is a white male and claims to be Christian. So it's okay. And I'm saying this for both Democrats and Republicans. Your skin tone, gender, and religion can absolutely determine the reaction to your words and deeds no matter your political affiliation. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - Yojimbo - 03-15-2019 What’s wrong with a white supremacist killing 49 people because they look and act different than what he approves of? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/new-zealand-police-detain-four-after-mosque-shootings/ar-BBUN8Pn?li=BBnb4R5 RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - GMDino - 08-14-2019 Old Steve was on a roll! https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/29/steve-king-all-cultures-do-not-contribute-equally-civilization/1268437001/ Quote:Steve King: All cultures do not contribute equally, to claim otherwise is to devalue the 'Founding Fathers' RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - jj22 - 08-14-2019 He has one point right. Our founding fathers didn't consider all races/cultures equal (specifically Africans obviously with slavery/Jim Crow). That doesn't make it right. King still being around and such a popular figure with Republicans and the Religious Right just goes to show how far we still have to come as a Nation to treat everyone equally. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - BmorePat87 - 06-03-2020 https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/politics/steve-king-iowa-primary-election/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0rwOWtFoUmYC8o39PIou98JUtA3XpFzsGRGVvO7w1j-vKxe_soiWPFTkU Don't let the door hit you on the way out RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - samhain - 06-03-2020 (06-03-2020, 02:02 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/politics/steve-king-iowa-primary-election/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0rwOWtFoUmYC8o39PIou98JUtA3XpFzsGRGVvO7w1j-vKxe_soiWPFTkU Yikes. When elders in the party of DJT think you're too damn racist to be re-elected, that's saying something. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - GMDino - 06-03-2020 From what I read last night the guy who beat him ran on a platform that King wasn't enough of an ally to Trump because he was kicked off his committees. Quote:Feenstra’s campaign did not focus on King’s history of racist rhetoric, except to claim that losing his committee assignments diminished his ability to work for his district, which covers the mostly rural northwest quadrant of the state. The state’s other three congressional seats are currently held by Democrats. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - GMDino - 06-03-2020 Trump seems happy King is gone.
RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - BengalHawk62 - 06-03-2020 Republicans have shown they have no issue with white nationalism. Look at who's in the White House. King lost because GOP leaders finally realized he was an albatross and kicked him off committees, rendering him useless. King lost in spite of being racist, not because of it. The fella (Feenstra) who won is a Trump supporting, NRA ‘A’ rated, pro-life nut job....so hard to think he is the un-racist we were looking for. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - samhain - 06-05-2020 (06-03-2020, 11:16 AM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: Republicans have shown they have no issue with white nationalism. Look at who's in the White House. King lost because GOP leaders finally realized he was an albatross and kicked him off committees, rendering him useless. IDK, Jason. Pro-life and Pro gun are more or less conservative standard issue positions. I can live with that species of Republican. I'm a gun owner myself, so pro-gun doesn't make me dismiss anyone out of hand. Neither of those positions make a Republican alt-right or white nationalist. That's a newish thing in the party. I can have disagreements on policies like abortion, gun control, and the role of gubmint, but the white nationalism thing is an automatic non-starter that shouldn't really be tolerated by anyone, IMO. Even if some conservatives have that mindset, ones that actually espouse those kinds of beliefs still aren't all that common outside of the White House and Stephen Miller. I still call getting rid of a legislator who openly praises white nationalism as a victory, even if it's a victory for a hard right conservative. RE: Steve King: How did white supremacist become offensive? - Dill - 06-05-2020 (06-03-2020, 05:13 AM)samhain Wrote: Yikes. When elders in the party of DJT think you're too damn racist to be re-elected, that's saying something. Too damned OPENLY racist. No one below Trump can make racial slurs without consequence. |