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RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Vas Deferens - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 12:50 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Since accusations and ulterior motives were ascribed to people wanting corroboration for this story I'd like to present a piece citing the exact same concerns from the far right Washington Post. curious how he thought this blurb was aiding his point... Quote:An abortion of a 10-year-old is pretty rare. The Columbus Dispatch reported that in 2020, 52 people under the age of 15 received an abortion in Ohio. terrible. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - michaelsean - 07-14-2022 Jesus they killed an undocumented worker's unborn child? RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - BigPapaKain - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 01:14 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: curious how he thought this blurb was aiding his point... Maybe his point was to remind people to wait until the facts come out before getting their pitchforks and torches? RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - GMDino - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 01:14 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: curious how he thought this blurb was aiding his point... Even more curious is that he is a fact checker so the whole article is trying to check the facts...and when it turns out the facts are accurate he chalks it up to how hard it is to prove the facts are true. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 01:14 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: curious how he thought this blurb was aiding his point... Nauseating to say the least. The really awful part of this is that the guys in question were likely much older. I'm sure some of them are around the same age, but I cannot tell you how many times I've investigated cases where a 20+ year old guy is "dating" a girl 16 or younger. Even more disturbing is the number of parents, both of the boy and the girl, who let the girl live in the "boyfriend's" home. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Mike M (the other one) - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 01:35 PM)GMDino Wrote: Even more curious is that he is a fact checker so the whole article is trying to check the facts...and when it turns out the facts are accurate he chalks it up to how hard it is to prove the facts are true. Speaking of facts, Everyone agrees that if this 10 year old is at major medical risk if she were to carry til birth right? So with that in mind, the Heartbeat bill does have that covered and she could legally have an abortion in Ohio. "serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman" Now all that said, Hopefully the Heartbeat Bill gets an amendment to cover Rapes etc, but the reality of the situation appears to be purely Politically driven with no real concern for the girl other than making her a martyr for the cause. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - GMDino - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 01:48 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Speaking of facts, Do they all agree? Essentially OH said go ahead and get an abortion under that exception and maybe we won't prosecute you.
Let's look at the number of people, in OH government, questioned the entire story. Will they believe a 10 year old? Her family? Would they want to do an investigation before allowing the abortion? Just having the exception doesn't mean it will go unquestioned even if a report has been filed with the police. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - GMDino - 07-14-2022 https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/07/13/ohio-republicans-attempted-erasure-of-a-10-year-old-rape-victim-is-incredibly-sick-and-disturbed/ Another opinion piece, but he highlights (and links) the quotes from Republicans who simply didn't want to believe the story. Including one who said it a google search shows it was debunked...before it was proven to be true. [/url] Quote:COMMENTARY RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Mike M (the other one) - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 01:57 PM)GMDino Wrote: Do they all agree? HAHAHA, they would not have taken the girl to court and tried her. Would be the dumbest move possible, and anyone that thinks they would .. well you probably just pushing your own political agenda. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Mike M (the other one) - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 02:04 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/07/13/ohio-republicans-attempted-erasure-of-a-10-year-old-rape-victim-is-incredibly-sick-and-disturbed/ Like it's not the first time someone has lied about a story on a hot topic?? I see nothing wrong with them getting the truth, but it should never have been made a national issue. Should have been kept on the downlow for the protection of the minor involved, or do you not agree? RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 02:19 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Like it's not the first time someone has lied about a story on a hot topic?? Recently on MSNBC Howard Dean was promoting the thoroughly debunked lie that DeSantis signed a bill into law that requires college students to disclose their political affiliation. You also have the CBP officers who were falsely accused of "whipping" migrants from horseback. Hell, even Joe woke from his addled state to rail about that and promise punishment before an investigation was even done. The news should never have been blindly trusted, but I don't trust a thing that comes from the MSM without additional corroboration. And the media has no one but themselves to blame for this. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Nately120 - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 02:19 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Like it's not the first time someone has lied about a story on a hot topic?? THat makes sense to me, but I think we're heading in the opposite direction. There are even new initiatives that encourage people to seek bounties for reporting people for doing things that may facilitate or assist in abortion related things. Let's try to look surprised the first time a woman miscarries and fails to convince her neighbors of it and said neighbors attempt to claim their rewards for blowing the whistle on a woman who was pregnant the other day but isn't any more and doesn't have a baby. Privacy, eh? Not really our thing in this country post 9/11. Everything is justified in the name of defending lives that matter and hell...you can't prosecute people who didn't know what they were doing was wrong, right? Should be interesting, at least. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - BigPapaKain - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 02:16 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: HAHAHA, they would not have taken the girl to court and tried her. Would be the dumbest move possible, and anyone that thinks they would .. well you probably just pushing your own political agenda. This is the same country that put a woman away for murdering a guy who kidnapped her and raped her for years. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - GMDino - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 02:19 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Like it's not the first time someone has lied about a story on a hot topic?? We don't know who the minor is. Her identity has been protected. But as an example of what can and will happen with "leaving it to the states" to decide if abortions are legal it most definitely was a story worth spreading. And there will be more of them. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - GMDino - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 02:36 PM)Nately120 Wrote: THat makes sense to me, but I think we're heading in the opposite direction. There are even new initiatives that encourage people to seek bounties for reporting people for doing things that may facilitate or assist in abortion related things. Let's try to look surprised the first time a woman miscarries and fails to convince her neighbors of it and said neighbors attempt to claim their rewards for blowing the whistle on a woman who was pregnant the other day but isn't any more and doesn't have a baby. Texas started it with their bounty on any student who might be wanting to transition. California did one about guns I think. States are trying to ban LEAVING the state to get an abortion where it IS legal. "Leave it up to the states" will be a disaster. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Mike M (the other one) - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 02:38 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: This is the same country that put a woman away for murdering a guy who kidnapped her and raped her for years. Are you referring to Donna Hylton? That's a messed up story all around, how ever, She kinda crossed a line.. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - GMDino - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 02:16 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: HAHAHA, they would not have taken the girl to court and tried her. Would be the dumbest move possible, and anyone that thinks they would .. well you probably just pushing your own political agenda. Oh I don't put anything past the conservative agenda. https://www.texastribune.org/2022/04/10/starr-county-murder-charge/ The charges were dropped...eventually. Conservatives love filling up jails. This is just another way to feed the beast. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - Mike M (the other one) - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 03:00 PM)GMDino Wrote: We don't know who the minor is. Her identity has been protected. BS, it's only a matter of time before it gets leaked. And nothing wrong with pointing out a hypothetical situation that's based on reality with out a single reference to the current minor that fits the example ??? Oh yea, forgot rule one, sensationalize sensationalize ![]() RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - pally - 07-14-2022 (07-14-2022, 01:48 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Speaking of facts, These laws are so poorly written that no one knows what actually constitutes a major medical risk and when that kicks in. Everyone knows an ectopic pregnancy is nonviable, but is it an emergency before the tube ruptures? At what point does pre-eclampsic blood pressure become life-threatening or uncontrollable? How much bleeding is dangerous? Can a dead fetus be removed BEFORE it turns septic? Republicans in the legislature were all so eager to prove they were the most pro-life that they wrote bad laws. It is just like those vague anti-CRT-type laws going around. They are so poorly written no one knows what is legal and what isn't legal. RE: 10-year-old rape victim denied abortion in OH - pally - 07-14-2022 This is from Jim Bopp a lawyer for the National Right to Life Org who wrote the prototype for these abortion bans on the 10 year old “She would have had the baby, and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape, we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child,” Bopp said in a phone interview on Thursday. She is not a woman...she is a child herself. We don’t think, as heartwrenching as those circumstances are, we don’t think we should devalue the life of the baby because of the sins of the father.” No, they have devalued the life of the mother or in this case the living breathing child turning her into nothing but a broodmare without feelings, ideas, or rights of her own. She exists only to procreate, her hopes and dreams be damned |