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Time Crystals Created, Suspending Laws of Physics - rfaulk34 - 03-12-2017

http://www.space.com/36017-time-crystals-created-in-the-lab.html?utm_source=notification

Here's the obligatory "out" that's always added in...
"However, it's important to note that these time crystals don't "break" the fundamental laws of thermodynamics per se; they just put them off as long as the experiment is running, Potter said.

"Thermodynamics is only ever supposed to describe the long-term behavior once you reach this thermal steady state, so it never describes short-term dynamics before you reach thermal equilibrium," Potter said.
By keeping the system in a dynamic state, then, the new experiments simply hold the matter in a regime in which thermodynamics ordinarily wouldn't apply, he added."



I read an article recently that said something about, 'proof why ghosts can't exist' and it was explaining why something like a soul or consciousness can't exist outside the body. It's all hullabaloo and egomaniacal poof. I get and appreciate the search for knowledge and greater understanding. I'm sure there's still an amazing amount of stuff out there that's simply not known/hasn't been found and i love reading about this stuff. It fascinates the crap out of me. 


So, i'll stand by my previously made and currently stood-by assertion that the more answers man finds to how and why things work and what's out there, it point just as much toward there needing to be some kind of order and/or design to the universe. 


Have a nice day. #gocats #BBN


RE: Time Crystals Created, Suspending Laws of Physics - bfine32 - 03-12-2017

Of all the things science has figured out in the history of man, how it all began is not one of them. Many who swear by evolution differ on that answer or have none. I think then more we learn the less we will understand in this matter.


RE: Time Crystals Created, Suspending Laws of Physics - Beaker - 03-12-2017

(03-12-2017, 01:08 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Of all the things science has figured out in the history of man, how it all began is not one of them. Many who swear by evolution differ on that answer or have none. I think then more we learn the less we will understand in this matter.

That's because how it all began is a separate concept from evolution. But those opposed to it still keep trying to force the two together. That muddying up of the waters might have something to do with the amount of comprehension. Its my assertion that those opposed to evolution intentionally do their best to keep it mixed up.


RE: Time Crystals Created, Suspending Laws of Physics - bfine32 - 03-12-2017

(03-12-2017, 07:21 PM)Beaker Wrote: That's because how it all began is a separate concept from evolution. But those opposed to it still keep trying to force the two together. That muddying up of the waters might have something to do with the amount of comprehension. Its my assertion that those opposed to evolution intentionally do their best to keep it mixed up.

Oh, I firmly believe an earlier man evolved into what we are today. I did not say they were the same concept as many folks that belief in a sort of evolution also believe in  a sort of creator I actually brought them up tp illustrate that they are different concepts. . I also do not believe that everything was crated in six 24 hour days. 

Of course where life began is a good point of discussion; but I have no doubt it was created. 


RE: Time Crystals Created, Suspending Laws of Physics - GMDino - 03-16-2017

(03-12-2017, 01:08 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Of all the things science has figured out in the history of man, how it all began is not one of them. Many who swear by evolution differ on that answer or have none. I think then more we learn the less we will understand in this matter.

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RE: Time Crystals Created, Suspending Laws of Physics - JustWinBaby - 03-17-2017

(03-12-2017, 11:31 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: ... it point just as much toward there needing to be some kind of order and/or design to the universe.

The crazy thing to me is how numbers or functions like Pi and the Natural Log (and its inverse) are everywhere.

Now, our math was created to describe and order things around us.  And it seems simple enough that someone looking at circles, or perhaps building towers/columns/temples, would come to derive the formula.

But it seems a remarkable coincidence that these numbers would occur over and over again in physics, biology, astronomy....even the valuation of stock options (which uses both Pi and Ln, among other things!)

And for that matter, how does a Base 10 counting system end-up being so powerful and robust in describing our world?


RE: Time Crystals Created, Suspending Laws of Physics - Belsnickel - 03-17-2017

(03-17-2017, 01:14 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: And for that matter, how does a Base 10 counting system end-up being so powerful and robust in describing our world?

Git yer commie metric talk outta here!


RE: Time Crystals Created, Suspending Laws of Physics - Millhouse - 03-17-2017

(03-17-2017, 01:14 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: The crazy thing to me is how numbers or functions like Pi and the Natural Log (and its inverse) are everywhere.

Now, our math was created to describe and order things around us.  And it seems simple enough that someone looking at circles, or perhaps building towers/columns/temples, would come to derive the formula.

But it seems a remarkable coincidence that these numbers would occur over and over again in physics, biology, astronomy....even the valuation of stock options (which uses both Pi and Ln, among other things!)

And for that matter, how does a Base 10 counting system end-up being so powerful and robust in describing our world?

Phi (1.618....) is one of the most fascinating numbers ever. Also known as the Golden Ratio or the Golden Number, it is found in numerous things from ancient architecture, anatomy, plants, geometry, so-on. 

Fibonacci discovered it within his sequence of numbers : 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89 etc etc  (1+2 is 3, 3+2 is 5, 5+3 is 8, and so-on). Now take 89 / 55, and you get 1.6181818....  . The longer the sequence goes, the closer to 1.618 the ratio becomes.

Anyways I suggest to anyone to google 'Golden Ratio', or 'Phi', or '1.618'. Does that ratio that even the Ancients discovered just mere coincidence, or is there something more to it?


RE: Time Crystals Created, Suspending Laws of Physics - michaelsean - 03-17-2017

(03-17-2017, 02:51 PM)Millhouse Wrote: Phi (1.618....) is one of the most fascinating numbers ever. Also known as the Golden Ratio or the Golden Number, it is found in numerous things from ancient architecture, anatomy, plants, geometry, so-on. 

Fibonacci discovered it within his sequence of numbers : 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89 etc etc  (1+2 is 3, 3+2 is 5, 5+3 is 8, and so-on). Now take 89 / 55, and you get 1.6181818....  . The longer the sequence goes, the closer to 1.618 the ratio becomes.

Anyways I suggest to anyone to google 'Golden Ratio', or 'Phi', or '1.618'. Does that ratio that even the Ancients discovered just mere coincidence, or is there something more to it?

I'm thinking Phi=God