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Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - GMDino - 07-03-2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/03/donald-trump-offers-help-save-terminally-ill-baby-charlie-gard/ Quote:Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard A few thoughts: 1) How horrible for the parents to be going through this. 2) If Trump wrote that tweet ("as per"?) it shows signs of compassion his part that have otherwise not been seen. 3) Many people have lined up on the "this is why socialized health care is bad" side of the story...ignoring that Privatized healthcare would probably ALSO refuse to foot a bill to go to another country for a treatment that " would provide a "small chance" of a meaningful improvement in Charlie's brain function." Again I think they should be allowed to do whatever the want/need to do to save their child, I was just taken with the argument that it was "socialized healthcare" that was the problem. RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - HarleyDog - 07-03-2017 Ok, I don't think you're a Dick anymore. RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - GMDino - 07-03-2017 (07-03-2017, 06:25 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Ok, I don't think you're a Dick anymore. ![]() ![]() RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - SunsetBengal - 07-03-2017 Well, first off, I hope that baby makes it. Secondly, this show of compassion from Trump is likely nothing that his family and friends haven't already know about him. It just goes to show that no one is as good, or in this case, as bad as people like to make them out to be. RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - HarleyDog - 07-03-2017 (07-03-2017, 06:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: It was a good article. I took you as someone who, if there was something positive about the POTUS you would toss aside and dig into the bottom of the dumpster to find what fit your agenda. It was pretty cool of you to post. RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - GMDino - 07-03-2017 (07-03-2017, 06:36 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Well, first off, I hope that baby makes it. Secondly, this show of compassion from Trump is likely nothing that his family and friends haven't already know about him. It just goes to show that no one is as good, or in this case, as bad as people like to make them out to be. (07-03-2017, 06:37 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: It was a good article. I took you as someone who, if there was something positive about the POTUS you would toss aside and dig into the bottom of the dumpster to find what fit your agenda. It was pretty cool of you to post. And that's why I was clear that it posted because the aspect of socialized healthcare vs privatized. My opinion on Trump's statement or the Pope's isn't what this is about. TBH I bet Trump loves children. You would have to be a heartless bastard to have grandkids of your own and not (I do know people like that sadly). RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - HarleyDog - 07-03-2017 (07-03-2017, 07:01 PM)GMDino Wrote: TBH I bet Trump loves children. You would have to be a heartless bastard to have grandkids of your own and not (I do know people like that sadly). As do most unfortunately. RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - michaelsean - 07-05-2017 Did the court say they weren't allowed to go even if they had the money? 1.3 million pounds has to be around $2 million. RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - StLucieBengal - 07-05-2017 We would have to make the boy and his parents citizens to make it workZ. It would cause some issues in the British legal system but this is all we can do. RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 07-05-2017 (07-05-2017, 12:42 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: We would have to make the boy and his parents citizens to make it workZ. It would cause some issues in the British legal system but this is all we can do. If millions of illegal aliens receive free medical care in the US, why would this family need to become citizens? RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - StLucieBengal - 07-05-2017 (07-05-2017, 02:35 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: If millions of illegal aliens receive free medical care in the US, why would this family need to become citizens? The issue is the NHS won't release him. A US citizen is no longer under the thumb of the NHS death panels. RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - michaelsean - 07-05-2017 (07-05-2017, 03:04 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: The issue is the NHS won't release him. A US citizen is no longer under the thumb of the NHS death panels. So they aren't allowed to come here and pay for it themselves? RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - StLucieBengal - 07-05-2017 (07-05-2017, 03:10 PM)michaelsean Wrote: So they aren't allowed to come here and pay for it themselves? I am not 100% sure but I believe the NHS has power over parents in this scenario. RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - Au165 - 07-05-2017 Horrible situation. I hope they release the kid to somewhere willing to continue to work towards helping the family. RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - StLucieBengal - 07-05-2017 (07-05-2017, 03:30 PM)Au165 Wrote: Horrible situation. I hope they release the kid to somewhere willing to continue to work towards helping the family. Unfortunately they are pulling the plug on him against the parents wishes. Which is what happens in socialized medicine. RE: Donald Trump offers 'help' to terminally-ill baby Charlie Gard - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 07-05-2017 (07-05-2017, 03:04 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: The issue is the NHS won't release him. A US citizen is no longer under the thumb of the NHS death panels. I'm going to assume you're referring to the National Health Service in England. A hospital won't release a critically ill patient on life support without an accepting hospital and appropriate transfer transportation. They don't need to be US citizens to get care in the US. So you're completely wrong. Edited to add: I've read the judge's summary of this case which I found at The Mirror. This has nothing to do with socialized medicine. Anyone making such a claim is speaking from a position of ignorance in an attempt to sensationalize an awful situation to further a political ideology which I think is reprehensible. |