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The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - Beaker - 07-31-2015 Some of the best reading is on the links in the article to his blogs: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnfarrell/2015/07/31/meet-the-canadian-scientist-who-loves-battling-american-creationists/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+forbes/TechnologyNews+%28Forbes.com:+Technology+News%29 RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - RASCAL - 07-31-2015 (07-31-2015, 07:45 PM)Beaker Wrote: Some of the best reading is on the links in the article to his blogs: he can battle all he wants but when he takes his last breath he'll meet his maker! Then he can battle with the CREATOR! RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - rfaulk34 - 07-31-2015 (07-31-2015, 07:45 PM)Beaker Wrote: Some of the best reading is on the links in the article to his blogs: What a moran... RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - Beaker - 08-01-2015 (07-31-2015, 09:52 PM)RASCAL Wrote: he can battle all he wants but when he takes his last breath he'll meet his maker! Then he can battle with the CREATOR! What if the creator tell him he was right all along? RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - GodHatesBengals - 08-01-2015 (07-31-2015, 09:52 PM)RASCAL Wrote: he can battle all he wants but when he takes his last breath he'll meet his maker! Then he can battle with the CREATOR! The sad part is that this is the best argument they have. "If I'm right, which there's no reason whatsoever for anyone to believe I am, then you are in BIG TROUBLE after you die!" RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - GMDino - 08-01-2015 (08-01-2015, 10:23 AM)Beaker Wrote: What if the creator tell him he was right all along? (08-01-2015, 11:36 AM)GodHatesBengals Wrote: The sad part is that this is the best argument they have. Had a very good friend who found God (right after his divorce) and we would argue these things all the time. He said there was no way at all I could understand the "true" meaning of scripture more than him because he STUDIED it! He had a teacher and went to class and he learned what it REALLY means. And I ended every discussion the same way: The only way we'll know who is right it when we die. RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - Rotobeast - 08-01-2015 (08-01-2015, 01:14 PM)GMDino Wrote: Had a very good friend who found God (right after his divorce) and we would argue these things all the time. He said there was no way at all I could understand the "true" meaning of scripture more than him because he STUDIED it! He had a teacher and went to class and he learned what it REALLY means. The "true" meaning of any faith is between you and who you are praying to. RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - Beaker - 08-01-2015 (08-01-2015, 07:40 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: The "true" meaning of any faith is between you and who you are praying to. Faith has nothing to do with whether or not evolution is occurring. It requires neither your faith, nor your belief. RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - JustWinBaby - 08-02-2015 I don't know....if a real "scientist" is battling Creationists I tend to think he must be getting his ass kicked by his peers. Sort of like you can't amount to anything in your field, so you go pick on the retards. RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - Rotobeast - 08-02-2015 (08-01-2015, 09:39 PM)Beaker Wrote: Faith has nothing to do with whether or not evolution is occurring. It requires neither your faith, nor your belief. And I don't require validation of my faith by you or anyone else. I made the comment in regards to Dino's friend, speaking about "true" scripture. For the record, I believe in evolution. I also believe God is behind every step of it. RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - GodHatesBengals - 08-02-2015 (08-02-2015, 06:11 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: I don't know....if a real "scientist" is battling Creationists I tend to think he must be getting his ass kicked by his peers. Sort of like you can't amount to anything in your field, so you go pick on the retards. You may be right; I don't know anything about this guy outside of this article. But I think debunking creationism is a legitimate pursuit, especially in the United States. I used to argue with creationists a lot. But I lost the patience for it. RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - fredtoast - 08-02-2015 There is a big difference between the people who claim there is a god behind the natural forces that created the universe and the people who claim "Science proves creationism!" or "The creation story in the Bible is literally 100% true." You can't really argue with the first group. But the second group is basically rejecting science. RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - bfine32 - 08-02-2015 Do any evolutionists find it to be more than a coincidence that the theory of evolution pretty much mirrors the steps the Bible states that god took to create the Universe? Nothingness, void (Universe), light (Galaxy), earth, plants, solar system, sea creatures, birds, land mammals, man. RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - GMDino - 08-02-2015 (08-02-2015, 12:20 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Do any evolutionists find it to be more than a coincidence that the theory of evolution pretty much mirrors the steps the Bible states that god took to create the Universe? No because that's not what the creation story says: Its says the Earth, then light. It also says the sky keeps the water in the sky from coming down. The he made light again? Someone how there was "light" without "lights" in the sky. Quote:The Story of Creation So, again, no. RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - GMDino - 08-02-2015 (08-02-2015, 12:20 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Do any evolutionists find it to be more than a coincidence that the theory of evolution pretty much mirrors the steps the Bible states that god took to create the Universe? (08-02-2015, 01:03 PM)GMDino Wrote: No because that's not what the creation story says: Also the second story says man was created before the plants. Then he created animals to keep the man company. Quote:The Garden of Eden RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - bfine32 - 08-02-2015 (08-02-2015, 01:03 PM)GMDino Wrote: No because that's not what the creation story says: Did you actually quote a verse that says that light was created before earth in an attempt to say "no it wasn't"? RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - GMDino - 08-02-2015 (08-02-2015, 01:11 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Did you actually quote a verse that says that light was created before earth in an attempt to say "no it wasn't"? Do really read this: Quote:2 the earth was formless and desolate. The raging ocean that covered everything was engulfed in total darkness, and the Spirit of God[b] was moving over the water. 3 Then God commanded, “Let there be light”—and light appeared ...and read it as light came first? RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - bfine32 - 08-02-2015 (08-02-2015, 01:09 PM)GMDino Wrote: Also the second story says man was created before the plants. Quote:8 Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Plants first Quote:Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals. Animals first. He simply brought them to Adam to be named. So again Yes. RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - bfine32 - 08-02-2015 (08-02-2015, 01:13 PM)GMDino Wrote: Do really read this: Yes light came before the earth was formed. How else I am supposed to read it? RE: The scientist who enjoys debating creationists - GMDino - 08-02-2015 (08-02-2015, 01:19 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Yes light came before the earth was formed. How else I am supposed to read it? Luckily I have a couple hours to waste today. Quote:2 the earth was formless and desolate. The raging ocean that covered everything was engulfed in total darkness, and the Spirit of God[b] was moving over the water. This is the second verse. It establishes that the Earth was completely covered with water...and total darkness. Total darkness means there was no light. (For now we can ignore that the water would be frozen solid and not "raging" with no light.) Quote:3 Then God commanded, “Let there be light”—and light appeared This is the THIRD verse. It FOLLOWS the second. It establishes that because the Earth was in "total darkness" God created light. Earth in darkness...verse 2. Light created...verse 3. 2 and then 3. Earth and then light. 2 and then 3. Then LATER God created the Sun and moon and stars. This will be your one and only lesson in how numbers work. |