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Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - SunsetBengal - 10-25-2017 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.d0a77c8be304 Quote:The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - Belsnickel - 10-25-2017 Tl;dr: Research began in GOP primary w/ money from anon donor. Picked back up in general by Clinton/DNC. Opp research that was funded, as these things tend to be, through layers of protections. This isn't anything new, we actually knew this not long after the dossier came out. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - GMDino - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 04:48 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Tl;dr: Research began in GOP primary w/ money from anon donor. Picked back up in general by Clinton/DNC. Opp research that was funded, as these things tend to be, through layers of protections. This isn't anything new, we actually knew this not long after the dossier came out. I wonder if the new investigation by the GOP will push to find out who in the GOP started the whole thing? And I wonder if there are tapes... ![]() RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - SunsetBengal - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 04:48 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Tl;dr: Research began in GOP primary w/ money from anon donor. Picked back up in general by Clinton/DNC. Opp research that was funded, as these things tend to be, through layers of protections. This isn't anything new, we actually knew this not long after the dossier came out. I'd be willing to bet that the GOP opponent who initiated this research was Jeb Bush. But anyway, sure, we have known who was behind it for quite some time, but why is this story now getting play? The articles I saw are recent, very recent. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - JustWinBaby - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 04:48 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Tl;dr: Research began in GOP primary w/ money from anon donor. Picked back up in general by Clinton/DNC. Opp research that was funded, as these things tend to be, through layers of protections. This isn't anything new, we actually knew this not long after the dossier came out. It was, however, apparently news to a few folks at the NYT who claimed they were lied to and pushed back against when investigating this.....shocking, I know. This is also the first time I've seen a clear line drawn between opposition research in the Repub primaries, and Steele and the Dossier being on Hillary and the DNC. Not exactly equivalent things. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - JustWinBaby - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 04:56 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I'd be willing to bet that the GOP opponent who initiated this research was Jeb Bush. But anyway, sure, we have known who was behind it for quite some time, but why is this story now getting play? The articles I saw are recent, very recent. I believe it was the NYT that reported this back in March (along with a few other places). Then it appears they were basically told to drop the story, and they did...and the rest of the mainstream media followed suit. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - Goalpost - 10-25-2017 The dossier has never been proven accurate. I would like to know further how the FBI participated in this and whether a phony story was used for reason to wiretap. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - NATI BENGALS - 10-25-2017 Woah.... Leakers?! Bad right? Is hiring an American firm to research a political opponent better or worse than working with an unfriendly foreign government while their legion of trolls spread misinformation to shatter our democracy? Tough question. Im so confused. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - NATI BENGALS - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 05:01 PM)Goalpost Wrote: The dossier has never been proven accurate. I would like to know further how the FBI participated in this and whether a phony story was used for reason to wiretap. I thought any wire tapping that might have happened was because trumps campaign manager was an unregistered foreign agent RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - BmorePat87 - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 04:48 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Tl;dr: Research began in GOP primary w/ money from anon donor. Picked back up in general by Clinton/DNC. Opp research that was funded, as these things tend to be, through layers of protections. This isn't anything new, we actually knew this not long after the dossier came out. yea CNN reported this months ago when the story about the dossier dropped. They just now have another source confirming it. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - SunsetBengal - 10-25-2017 Oh yes, "everyone knew", and that's why they were trying to hide their involvement? Nothing to see here, just following up with what the GOP started; Sure, that's why the FEC is looking into possible violations of campaign funding law.. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - Belsnickel - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 07:13 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Oh yes, "everyone knew", and that's why they were trying to hide their involvement? Nothing to see here, just following up with what the GOP started; Sure, that's why the FEC is looking into possible violations of campaign funding law.. No one here is saying that what was done by everyone involved wasn't shady as hell, or even possibly illegal on some level. We're just saying this isn't news. What is being reported in the article in the OP was revealed back when the dossier was really heavy in the news. Right now, I'm more interested in finding out who is benefiting from trying to bring this and the uranium deal thing back into the public eye. Someone is putting an agenda in motion by making sure things like this get back in the media circus, even though the information isn't really anything new. This causes the public to pay attention and results in lawmakers changing their agenda. So who benefits from this? RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - Millhouse - 10-25-2017 Hillary and others in the DNC would never do anything to undermine our democracy in motion. Oh wait, Bernie Sanders, nevermind..... RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 10-25-2017 I funded offshore oil drilling this afternoon when I paid Exxon for a tank of gas. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - SunsetBengal - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 07:18 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: No one here is saying that what was done by everyone involved wasn't shady as hell, or even possibly illegal on some level. We're just saying this isn't news. What is being reported in the article in the OP was revealed back when the dossier was really heavy in the news. The American Public. Drain the Swamp. This was one of Trump's campaign promises. He has to set an example to prove that he meant it. (or at least appear to) RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - JustWinBaby - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 07:18 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Right now, I'm more interested in finding out who is benefiting from trying to bring this and the uranium deal thing back into the public eye. Someone is putting an agenda in motion by making sure things like this get back in the media circus, even though the information isn't really anything new. This causes the public to pay attention and results in lawmakers changing their agenda. So who benefits from this? It's obviously Republicans hitting back for the whole collusion story which, to-date, seems to be largely a non-story and, perhaps, an abuse of power founded upon fabricated "evidence". Damage has been done, and now they'll go after their pound of flesh. Very interesting that Mueller - 1 year into this investigation - was examining the Dossier and interviewed Steele. Is he looking into it because something has become relevant, or is he looking into it because he's questioning the very foundation of the entire investigation? The former explanation is an odd one well over a year into the investigation, but perhaps he is now tasked with trying to justify an investigation that has found nothing. Let's also not assume that "Russian interference" was only designed to benefit Trump, rather than undermine the entire Democratic process. That would also "justifiably" put Clinton and the DNC on the radar. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - Belsnickel - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 07:27 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The American Public. Drain the Swamp. Except he has surrounded himself with swamp dwellers and is supporting swamp-friendly policies. So he would only being appearing to drain the swamp to those willing to ignore all of that. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - Belsnickel - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 07:29 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: It's obviously Republicans hitting back for the whole collusion story which, to-date, seems to be largely a non-story and, perhaps, an abuse of power founded upon fabricated "evidence". Damage has been done, and now they'll go after their pound of flesh. I have little doubt this is the case. I don't know about the abuse of power, but I have zero doubt it is a tit-for-tat. (10-25-2017, 07:29 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Very interesting that Mueller - 1 year into this investigation - was examining the Dossier and interviewed Steele. Is he looking into it because something has become relevant, or is he looking into it because he's questioning the very foundation of the entire investigation? The former explanation is an odd one well over a year into the investigation, but perhaps he is now tasked with trying to justify an investigation that has found nothing. One year? Mueller's appointment was just barely 5 months ago. This investigation is not very old, especially when looked at in comparison to other special counsel investigations. (10-25-2017, 07:29 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Let's also not assume that "Russian interference" was only designed to benefit Trump, rather than undermine the entire Democratic process. That would also "justifiably" put Clinton and the DNC on the radar. Oh, I've said from the start that the interference was more to just **** with us, and was more anti-Clinton than pro-Trump. RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - SunsetBengal - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 07:39 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Except he has surrounded himself with swamp dwellers and is supporting swamp-friendly policies. So he would only being appearing to drain the swamp to those willing to ignore all of that. I understand, thus the (or at least appear to) RE: Clinton campaign and DNC paid for Trump Dossier - JustWinBaby - 10-25-2017 (10-25-2017, 07:46 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: One year? Mueller's appointment was just barely 5 months ago. This investigation is not very old, especially when looked at in comparison to other special counsel investigations.Ehhhh, I'm saying regardless if it's 5 months or 14 months in, I think it's pretty curious to be examining/questioning the foundation of the investigation at this point. 5 months or 14 months in, you're not going back to the beginning.....on top of leaks the focus might be shifting, again, but would certainly be a plausible explanation of why you're interviewing Steele at this point. Point being, they've been following-up on Steele's leads and intel for over a year - shouldn't you be well past deposing him? You've independently corroborated his evidence and accusations or not - what value does he have to an investigation that has long moved on from the Dossier? I would add I remember reading Steele had paid Russian informants to compile that Dossier, many of whom were former KGB and govt officials. He's not an American citizen, but does that mean he was a go-between for people in the Clinton campaign and DNC being "agents of a foreign govt"? |