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Mass shooting sub forum - Westwood Bengal - 11-07-2017

These shootings are becoming so common place in our country that it might be time to consider moving them to their own section.

Gaah


RE: Mass shooting sub forum - Bengalzona - 11-07-2017

(11-07-2017, 08:01 PM)Westwood Bengal Wrote: These shootings are becoming so common place in our country that it might be time to consider moving them to their own section.

Gaah

An idea whose time may have arrived. ThumbsUp


RE: Mass shooting sub forum - Vas Deferens - 11-08-2017

Yes thank you. Should clear things up to get back to the real question at hand. What bathrooms are these people going into? Gross.


RE: Mass shooting sub forum - StLucieBengal - 11-08-2017

(11-07-2017, 08:01 PM)Westwood Bengal Wrote: These shootings are becoming so common place in our country that it might be time to consider moving them to their own section.

Gaah

Lol we would need an Islam forum for all their blood thirsty behavior.


RE: Mass shooting sub forum - Arturo Bandini - 11-08-2017

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RE: Mass shooting sub forum - CKwi88 - 11-08-2017

(11-08-2017, 01:18 PM)Arturo Bandini Wrote: [Image: DOB5FaUWkAAs5py.jpg:large]

It's our culture.

Fast food, Western movies, and mass shootings are as American as it gets.


RE: Mass shooting sub forum - BengalHawk62 - 11-08-2017

How to get a gun in Japan:

To get a gun in Japan, you first have to attend an all-day class and pass a written test, which are held only once per month. You also must take and pass a shooting range class. Then, head over to a hospital for a mental health test and drug test (Japan is unusual in that potential gun owners must affirmatively prove their mental fitness), which you'll file with the police. Finally, pass a rigorous background check for any criminal record or association with criminal or extremist groups, and you will be the proud new owner of your shotgun or air rifle. Just don't forget to provide police with documentation on the specific location of the gun in your home, as well as the ammo, both of which must be locked and stored separately. And remember to have the police inspect the gun once per year and to re-take the class and exam every three years.

Japan had 11 gun deaths in 2008, the U.S. had 12000.


RE: Mass shooting sub forum - TheLeonardLeap - 11-08-2017

(11-08-2017, 03:32 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: How to get a gun in Japan:

To get a gun in Japan, you first have to attend an all-day class and pass a written test, which are held only once per month. You also must take and pass a shooting range class. Then, head over to a hospital for a mental health test and drug test (Japan is unusual in that potential gun owners must affirmatively prove their mental fitness), which you'll file with the police. Finally, pass a rigorous background check for any criminal record or association with criminal or extremist groups, and you will be the proud new owner of your shotgun or air rifle. Just don't forget to provide police with documentation on the specific location of the gun in your home, as well as the ammo, both of which must be locked and stored separately. And remember to have the police inspect the gun once per year and to re-take the class and exam every three years.

Japan had 11 gun deaths in 2008, the U.S. had 12000.

I hate when people use stats like these because they're just such a silly point to try and make. The majority of that 12,000 number are suicides.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/upshot/gun-deaths-are-mostly-suicides.html 
...In which it says more than 60% of gun deaths are suicides. The number is about 2/3rds.
The next biggest amount of that gun deaths number is gang violence, which are people who are using illegal weapons, likely selling illegal drugs, and committing other crimes, thus ignoring any laws which you may make.

Meanwhile in Japan they had over 32,800 suicides in 2009. Adjusted to the US population, that would be a little over 84,000 suicides here.

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So while Japan doesn't have the gun deaths of the US, their "rope deaths" and "volcano deaths" numbers are through the freaking ROOF compared to the US.


Here's how to get a rope in Japan:
-Go to the store.
-Buy it.

Here's how to visit a volcano in Japan:
-Go to the volcano.


They didn't solve any problems, the problem was just shifted and dispersed towards other methods.


RE: Mass shooting sub forum - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 11-09-2017

(11-08-2017, 03:51 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I hate when people use stats like these because they're just such a silly point to try and make. The majority of that 12,000 number are suicides.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/upshot/gun-deaths-are-mostly-suicides.html 
...In which it says more than 60% of gun deaths are suicides. The number is about 2/3rds.
The next biggest amount of that gun deaths number is gang violence, which are people who are using illegal weapons, likely selling illegal drugs, and committing other crimes, thus ignoring any laws which you may make.

Meanwhile in Japan they had over 32,800 suicides in 2009. Adjusted to the US population, that would be a little over 84,000 suicides here.

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So while Japan doesn't have the gun deaths of the US, their "rope deaths" and "volcano deaths" numbers are through the freaking ROOF compared to the US.


Here's how to get a rope in Japan:
-Go to the store.
-Buy it.

Here's how to visit a volcano in Japan:
-Go to the volcano.


They didn't solve any problems, the problem was just shifted and dispersed towards other methods.

I hate to contradict you because I agree with the intent of your message, but the 12,000 gun deaths you mention do not include suicides.  We have ~36,000 gun deaths a year in this country, of which 2/3rd's are suicides.  What is important is that around 80-90% of those 12,000 gun deaths are criminals killing other criminals.  Chicago alone accounts for almost 1/12th of that number.  So,the statistics clearly show that, excluding criminals, only 3,000 people a year are murdered with a firearm per year, the vast majority of them by a hand gun.  So, you're in far more danger taking a shower or driving to work.  You're far more likely to be killed by your own doctor than you are a person with a gun.  Maybe we should start looking into the medical malpractice murder "epidemic"?