(02-21-2018, 10:57 AM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: Did that get your attention? Honestly, I really don't need to know about your bits or lack there of, but I thought this was an interesting topic to add to this board. Iceland is proposing to ban all circumcisions on baby boys, the lawmaker from the center-right Progressive Party said she proposed the measure after realizing the country's ban on female genital mutilation had no equivalent to prevent male circumcision.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/12/iceland-considers-ban-circumcision/




Personally, maybe this is just an ‘American’ POV, but I certainly feel like the health benefits outweigh the risks emmensely.  I’m no doctor, so if someone on here knows more about that, please weigh in.  I know when my son was born I weighed the pros and cons of circumsizing him and finally decided I didn’t want him to get beat up in junior high PE class for having a turtle head.  At least that would have happened in my junior high days.  Now maybe things have changed since my days, but I still feel like I made the right decision.

(02-21-2018, 04:02 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Comparing female mutilation to circumcision?

(02-21-2018, 04:13 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: Seems like a valid comparison considering the fact that circumcision is literally the mutilation of male genitalia. 

(02-21-2018, 04:20 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I don't know. I mean, there are different versions of the practice and some of them are much different. If we were talking excision of the clitoral hood and/or the labia minora, then I would agree. However, clitoridectomies and infibulation are things that also fall under what we typically call FGM (or FGO, if we want to take a relativistic stance on the topic). To compare a clitoridectomy, the glans penis would have to be cut off entirely. There is no comparable version of infibulation, as far as I know.

(02-21-2018, 04:32 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: No mention was made of the severity of the mutilations....

Still, they may be different enough to discuss separately, while also similar enough to address as one.

People like to pretend that the mutilation of the penis isn't a problem because it's been long accepted in the United States (when it is virtually nowhere else outside of third world countries), when really, the practice typically consists of taking an unwilling infant, inflicting pain and harm upon them, and leaving them with potential decreased sexual sensitivity.

All in the name of religious beliefs that the child does not hold.

Seems like something we should have retired long ago.

(02-21-2018, 04:32 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: People like to pretend that the mutilation of the penis isn't a problem because it's been long accepted in the United States (when it is virtually nowhere else outside of third world countries), when really, the practice typically consists of taking an unwilling infant, inflicting pain and harm upon them, and leaving them with potential decreased sexual sensitivity.

(02-21-2018, 04:13 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: Seems like a valid comparison considering the fact that circumcision is literally the mutilation of male genitalia. 

(02-21-2018, 03:59 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The is a very activist anti-circumcision group.  I forget the name, but I know I put a few of my friends on their mailing list years ago.  The have anti-circumcision protest songs and posters and everything.

(02-21-2018, 04:57 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: To me it’s boils down to a hygiene issue and to an extent, an aesthetic issue.  Its a lot easier to take care of and clean without the ‘hood’.  My friend decided not to cut his boys and now they are growing up and being potty trained, they are having all sorts of issues.  Thin stream, basically the pee hole isn’t wide enough for the urine to pass thru and the little guy is having uncomfortable pain when he goes.  And now my friend is going to a specialist to see if getting a circumsion now is the right course of action. Plus the boys are old enough to kind of know whats going to happen and they start freaking out.  


Ya, there’s a reason why 3rd world countries don’t circumsize their boys.

(02-21-2018, 04:57 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: To me it’s boils down to a hygiene issue and to an extent, an aesthetic issue. Its a lot easier to take care of and clean without the ‘hood’. My friend decided not to cut his boys and now they are growing up and being potty trained, they are having all sorts of issues. Thin stream, basically the pee hole isn’t wide enough for the urine to pass thru and the little guy is having uncomfortable pain when he goes. And now my friend is going to a specialist to see if getting a circumsion now is the right course of action. Plus the boys are old enough to kind of know whats going to happen and they start freaking out.


Ya, there’s a reason why 3rd world countries don’t circumsize their boys.

(02-21-2018, 04:39 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: The health arguments are non-existent when you actually look at the data. This is purely a cultural issue.

(02-21-2018, 04:44 PM)fredtoast Wrote: In general the "health benefits" of a circumcision are way overstated