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House punishes Memphis for removing Confederate statues with $250,000 budget cut - GMDino - 04-18-2018 https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/17/house-amends-budget-remove-250-000-dedicated-memphis-after-statue-removal/526482002/ Quote:House lawmakers on Tuesday approved a last-minute amendment to remove $250,000 allocated to the city of Memphis as punishment for the removal of Confederate monuments. RE: House punishes Memphis for removing Confederate statues with $250,000 budget cut - Nately120 - 04-18-2018 Waaaahhhhhh, someone took away my Civil War participation trophy! Waahahhhhhhh!!!!! RE: House punishes Memphis for removing Confederate statues with $250,000 budget cut - PhilHos - 04-19-2018 Wait, wait, wait. A city can SELL its public parks?! RE: House punishes Memphis for removing Confederate statues with $250,000 budget cut - fredtoast - 04-19-2018 Memphis is the biggest city in the State, but it is also an isolated island of Democrats. The rest of the Sate is VERY Republican. Here where I live the Republican primaries are the actual elections because no Democrat ever wins in the general election. In fact many Republicans are unopposed in the general election after they win the Republican primary. The State Legislature has a "super majority" of Republicans so they can (and do) shit all over Memphis as much as they want. Interesting fact. Bristol TN is closer to Canada than it is to Memphis. RE: House punishes Memphis for removing Confederate statues with $250,000 budget cut - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-19-2018 I'm of two minds on this. One, the action by the state legislature is certainly vindictive and retaliatory in nature. On the other hand, Memphis intentionally and surreptitiously circumvented state law by selling off the parks so the statues could be removed. So, the question really is, does a spiteful and petty initial move justify a spiteful and petty move in response? I'd say, no, but that seems to be US politics at this point. RE: House punishes Memphis for removing Confederate statues with $250,000 budget cut - bfine32 - 04-19-2018 Hell if they sold public parks then why should they be denied a slice of public funds? RE: House punishes Memphis for removing Confederate statues with $250,000 budget cut - fredtoast - 04-20-2018 (04-19-2018, 04:55 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I'm of two minds on this. One, the action by the state legislature is certainly vindictive and retaliatory in nature. On the other hand, Memphis intentionally and surreptitiously circumvented state law by selling off the parks so the statues could be removed. So, the question really is, does a spiteful and petty initial move justify a spiteful and petty move in response? I'd say, no, but that seems to be US politics at this point. (04-19-2018, 04:59 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Hell if they sold public parks then why should they be denied a slice of public funds? This was a conflict between the City and the State. City basically claimed they could control what was on city property. State tried to control what was on city property by claiming jurisdiction over "historical preservation" (a power usually reserved for use against private property owners). State got PISSED when the city found a loophole, so they withheld $250K that was supposed to help pay for the City's Bicentennial celebration. I guess they can argue that the State should not have to pay for a City celebration, but Memphis is a huge tourist site and the celebration there would benefit the state with additional business and sales tax. RE: House punishes Memphis for removing Confederate statues with $250,000 budget cut - fredtoast - 04-20-2018 Here is the saddest part about all of this. It is over some symbolic issues that don't really effect anyone. If we could amend our state laws and constitution so that public schools were more evenly funded instead of depending on local wealth it would be one of the biggest boons for minorities ever, but if I tried to get a rally to support that action no one would show up. On the other hand if I start whining about a statue or a flag then thousands will rally behind me. We need to do a better job of channeling all of this energy toward more effective causes. RE: House punishes Memphis for removing Confederate statues with $250,000 budget cut - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-20-2018 (04-20-2018, 12:36 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This was a conflict between the City and the State. City basically claimed they could control what was on city property. State tried to control what was on city property by claiming jurisdiction over "historical preservation" (a power usually reserved for use against private property owners). I am well aware of all of this. Nor does any of it detract from my point, one petty and vindictive action begat another. RE: House punishes Memphis for removing Confederate statues with $250,000 budget cut - fredtoast - 04-20-2018 (04-20-2018, 01:04 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I am well aware of all of this. Nor does any of it detract from my point, one petty and vindictive action begat another. Some people consider the State's initial refusal to allow the removal of the statues the first "petty" action. RE: House punishes Memphis for removing Confederate statues with $250,000 budget cut - PhilHos - 04-20-2018 (04-20-2018, 12:40 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Here is the saddest part about all of this. It is over some symbolic issues that don't really effect anyone. I don't think I've ever seen you post something truer than this. ![]() |