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Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - GMDino - 05-09-2018 Hey, gotta pay for those tax cuts for their buddies somehow. I mean once the kids are born who cares about 'em? Right? https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-calls-on-congress-to-pull-back-15-billion-in-spending-including-on-childrens-health-insurance-program/2018/05/07/9427de18-5216-11e8-a551-5b648abe29ef_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2e6f479f73bf Quote:President Trump is sending a plan to Congress that calls for stripping more than $15 billion in previously approved spending, with the hope that it will temper conservative angst over ballooning budget deficits. Luckily they can cut from social net programs so Trump can have his military parade and wall. Gotta focus on making america great again even if middle class and poor americans are the only ones paying for it. RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - hollodero - 05-09-2018 Quick question, CHIP was that program initially tied to the first shutdown avoidance bill, right? Where the republicans came out and said, this is about children, what monsters wouldn't approve that bill? RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - Griever - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 01:59 PM)hollodero Wrote: Quick question, CHIP was that program initially tied to the first shutdown avoidance bill, right? winner winner chicken dinner then when the shutdown was still going on, Mitch blocked a bill letting the military keep getting paid no matter how long the shutdown lasted just more proof the right should be labeled pro-fetus instead of pro life (since they dont care once its born) RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - Yojimbo - 05-09-2018 Not like this wasn’t predicted....by everyone with a functioning brain. Step 1: Cut revenue Step 2: Complain deficit is too high Step 3: Make cuts to any program that helps the poor and powerless, because they don’t make large campaign donations RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - hollodero - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 02:07 PM)Griever Wrote: winner winner Can I have the fish? This is more fishy than chicken, after all. As for the labeling pro-fetus, that particular point I never got. And the reason is that I feel the republican side makes no secret about the unborn having "potential" to achieve something. Once they're born and can't achieve something, well, that's the survival of the fittest scheme that is part of these policies. I don't say that to slam republicans, I just think that's what they are advocating completely openly. It's about winners and losers and potential winners, while losers don't matter that much. American way and all. RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - Nately120 - 05-09-2018 I'm all for cutting the safety nets for our nation's weakest members because handouts and free healthcare for the poor and children would be the first step towards being a Christian nation, and who wants that? RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - StLucieBengal - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 01:59 PM)hollodero Wrote: Quick question, CHIP was that program initially tied to the first shutdown avoidance bill, right? This was part of the Daca/wall/immigration/shutdown deal. They offered to fund it for 5 years. Dems rejected. It obviously isn’t a priority for them so why not just cut it. They can always add it back when it becomes a priority for the dems again. If it ever does.... RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - fredtoast - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 03:22 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: They offered to fund it for 5 years. Dems rejected. It obviously isn’t a priority for them so why not just cut it. They did not reject the funding of CHIP. They rejected the other terms of the agreement like wasting billions on a wall that will not accomplish anything. The Republicans are holding health care for children in order to make ransom demands. It is despicable. RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - StLucieBengal - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 04:16 PM)fredtoast Wrote: They did not reject the funding of CHIP. They rejected the other terms of the agreement like wasting billions on a wall that will not accomplish anything. Still doesn’t change the fact they rejected it. When the democrats decide it’s important they can call ryan and pass the package. They Can help out daca as well, get chip, also strengthen the immigration policy ....(no chain migration, point system, and a wall). Win-win-win for all. This should be any easy bipartisan pass. RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - Mike M (the other one) - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 04:16 PM)fredtoast Wrote: They did not reject the funding of CHIP. They rejected the other terms of the agreement like wasting billions on a wall that will not accomplish anything. Actually the 2 go hand in hand. Remember illegals having babies on US Soil. I guess they are all wealthy parents and not the ones on CHIP right?? RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - Belsnickel - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 06:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Still doesn’t change the fact they rejected it. Why not vote on each issue as a standalone bill instead of trying to package them together and play political games with the lives of the people? RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - StLucieBengal - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 07:07 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Why not vote on each issue as a standalone bill instead of trying to package them together and play political games with the lives of the people? Where were you during the Obamacare debate lol. Or any of these omnibus spending bills. I’m all for voting individually. But it seems you guys only want to do so when it’s a gop policy. Besides these are all related to Immigration anyway. RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - Belsnickel - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 07:18 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Where were you during the Obamacare debate lol. Or any of these omnibus spending bills. I was against the ACA overall, but I have always been against this sort of thing. I'm also against omnibus spending bills, opting instead for actual budgets and normal order appropriations bills. This is one of those holder things from when I was more of a libertarian, but that was during the ACA days, so there is that. As for them all being related, I can literally tie any policy issue to another issue. Every single one. I can tie Interior to Defense. That doesn't mean these things that can tangentially be related should be tied together in this way. It's political gamesmanship that puts the lives of citizens at risk. RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - StLucieBengal - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 07:30 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I was against the ACA overall, but I have always been against this sort of thing. I'm also against omnibus spending bills, opting instead for actual budgets and normal order appropriations bills. This is one of those holder things from when I was more of a libertarian, but that was during the ACA days, so there is that. No ones life is at risk over chip. RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - Belsnickel - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 08:04 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: No ones life is at risk over chip. You're wrong. RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - StLucieBengal - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 08:06 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: You're wrong. None of these gov policies are that Important. The chip People won’t die without it RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - Belsnickel - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 08:11 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: None of these gov policies are that Important. The chip People won’t die without it It must be nice to be so blissfully ignorant. RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - StLucieBengal - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 08:25 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: It must be nice to be so blissfully ignorant. Who will die if we lose the chip program? RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - Griever - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 08:52 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Who will die if we lose the chip program? I'm being as nice as I can be when I ask this Do you know what the CHIP program is?? RE: Trump calls on Congress to pull back $15 billion in spending, including on CHIP - StLucieBengal - 05-09-2018 (05-09-2018, 10:25 PM)Griever Wrote: I'm being as nice as I can be when I ask this Ofc. My point is that it’s not the only thing between poor children and death. It’s a good program, but none of this stuff is necessary. I support the program, it’s a shame the democrats didn’t when they had a chance to fund it for five years. |