(06-04-2018, 10:28 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Wait, so you assertion is that an LEO asked about why they established contact with a person will say, "Because they were black"?  That's what you're saying.

(06-04-2018, 10:28 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: No, as that's not what I've done.  I've clearly won this point, though, seeing as you've actually agreed with the majority of my points.  You can stop now, btw.

(08-08-2018, 08:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What do you do if you're this "Bad Boy"?

(08-08-2018, 08:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What do you do if you're this "Bad Boy"?

(08-08-2018, 08:39 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I think we are going to need a little more info.

(08-08-2018, 09:18 PM)GMDino Wrote: I'd expect him to do what he did.  Remain calm and not escalate to the situation when the citizen was obviously looking to insult him.

Good job by the officer.  Must be one who doesn't have the ego that needs to show how tough he is.  

That's a great example of letting the citizen make an ass of themselves and walking away.  Fantastic!




Oh, of course not!  That's only important when the officer is accused of doing something wrong.  In the reverse we must just accept the less than w minutes of video as the whole truth.  

All seriousness aside the dude was an ass and he's lucky he got a good cop and not one who wanted to press not wearing a seatbelt into anything else.

(08-08-2018, 08:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What do you do if you're this "Bad Boy"?

(08-09-2018, 06:29 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't understand the question?

What are his options other than exactly what he did?

What makes you think he has other options?

(08-09-2018, 06:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Hell, you're the lawyer. Can't verbal disrespect of an officer be grounds for contempt?

(08-09-2018, 07:07 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Hell, you're the one who crows about being the champion of the first amendment.  At least when you are defending white supremacists who want to march and block traffic without a permit.

But I guess when a black guy does it you are hoping there is some law that would get him arrested. 

(08-09-2018, 07:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What a surprise!! You didn't answer the question.

(08-09-2018, 07:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I have not nor I would not defend anyone that blocked traffic without a permit. That's just something you made up to try and make a feeble point and to avoid answering a question posed. 

(08-09-2018, 07:50 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What a surprise!! You didn't answer the question. 

I have not nor I would not defend anyone that blocked traffic without a permit. That's just something you made up to try and make a feeble point and to avoid answering a question posed. 

If you don't know the answer, which was apparent, from your "what else could he do?" "answer", just say I don't know. 

If you do know that verbally disrespecting an officer of the law can be grounds for contempt, then say he could have charged him with contempt.

If you know that verbally disrespecting an officer of the law cannot be grounds for contempt, then say he could not be charged with anything else.

If the answer goes counter to what you have been bellowing about up to this point then, don't answer the question, try to paint someone as a racist and tie it to Jim Crowe

(08-09-2018, 08:08 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I did answer it.  Everyone else except you understands my answer.

(08-09-2018, 08:11 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Actually you just did in the thread about the clash between Antifa and the Proud Prayer group.  You were practically panting when you defended the first amendment rights of the white supremacist marching in Portland through the streets blocking traffic without a permit.

(08-09-2018, 08:24 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Just like clockwork

(08-09-2018, 08:49 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Not sure what your point is.

Why should I not point out the hypocrisy of you strongly defending the first amendment rights of white supremacists marching without a permit while at the same time asking if a police officer should arrest a black man for cursing at him?

(08-09-2018, 09:17 PM)bfine32 Wrote: The point is: the simplest minds are the easiest to read and yours was entirely too easy. Just like predicting what time is will be in 5 minutes.

(08-08-2018, 08:36 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What do you do if you're this "Bad Boy"?

(08-10-2018, 05:51 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Just another example of black privilege. 

(08-09-2018, 06:29 PM)fredtoast Wrote: What makes you think he has other options?

Quote:Family: Police use Taser to stun 87-year-old woman cutting dandelions

This Friday, Aug. 10, 2018 photo released by the Murray County Jail, Ga. shows Martha Al-Bishara, 87, under arrest. Al-Bishara was charged with criminal trespass and obstructing an officer Friday when police held her at gunpoint before bringing her to the ground with a jolt from the electrified prongs of a stun gun. Officers used the taser on Al-Bishara when she didn't obey commands to drop a knife in her hand. Relatives said Al-Bishara does't speak English and was merely cutting out dandelions with a kitchen knife near her home in Chatsworth. (Murray County Jail via AP) 
SOURCE: (Murray County Jail via AP)

CHATSWORTH, Ga. —
A Georgia police chief said an officer was justified in using a Taser to stun an 87-year-old woman after she didn’t obey commands to drop a knife in her hand.

Martha Al-Bishara was charged with criminal trespass and obstructing an officer Friday, when police held her at gunpoint before bringing her to the ground with a jolt from the electrified prongs of a stun gun.

Relatives said Al-Bishara doesn’t speak English and was merely out cutting dandelions with a kitchen knife near her home in Chatsworth, about 85 miles north of Atlanta.

“An 87-year-old woman with a knife still has the ability to hurt an officer,” Chatsworth Police Chief Josh Etheridge told the Daily Citizen-News of Dalton.

“There was no anger, there was no malice in this,” Etheridge said. “In my opinion, it was the lowest use of force we could have used to simply stop that threat at the time.”

Etheridge responded along with two other officers Friday after an employee of a local Boys and Girls Club called 911 to report a woman with a knife was walking outside and would not leave.

“She’s old so she can’t get around too well, but,” the employee said on the 911 recording. “Looks like she’s walking around looking for something, like, vegetation to cut down or something. There’s a bag, too.”

When Al-Bishara didn’t follow commands to drop her knife, Etheridge said, he tried to communicate with her by taking his own pocket knife and throwing it on the ground.

But Al-Bishara’s relatives said the officers should have shown more patience.

“If three police officers couldn’t handle an 87-year-old woman, you might want to reconsider hanging up your badge,” said Solomon Douhne, the woman’s great-nephew.

Family members said Al-Bishara spent about two hours at the Murray County jail before being released Friday and that she still has trouble sleeping and is nervous about going outside.

“She is OK,” said Martha Douhne, a great-granddaughter. “She is still repeating the incident over in her mind and telling us she didn’t mean for this to happen and apologizing that she didn’t want to bring this on us. She is having trouble sleeping and is stressed.”

Etheridge said the police department is conducting an internal use-of-force review.